Wessie Posted October 18, 2007 Report Posted October 18, 2007 well heres an angine i'd never thought i'd be considering ! im looking for advice on 1.4 zetec engines, i've done a few google searches but i was just wondering if any one has these in a road car?or any experience of them? basically my race regualtions limit me to a 1450 cc limit, no nitrous, turbos or superchargers, but apart from that most things go ! so i can put a different head on it, cam it, pair of webers etc just wondering what sort of power people would expect from a well tuned 1.4, any certain models i should be looking for with differnt blocks etc? focus, puma, fiesta etc thank you
tim Posted October 18, 2007 Report Posted October 18, 2007 i know the 1400 zetec isnt the common zetec you see being used in old skool fords,its a yamaha (sp) built engine
ZetecVan 2.0 Posted October 18, 2007 Report Posted October 18, 2007 As Tim says, I think the common feeling is that you can buy a 2 litre for £5 more than a 1400, so no one bothers with the them. I've never seen or heard of one transplanted into another car. But there will be one out there somewhere.
Wessie Posted October 18, 2007 Author Report Posted October 18, 2007 cheers mike i know there out there ! and i doubt (hope for their own sake) that anyone has put one in an OSF does anybody know if 1600/1400 heads, cams etc are interchangeable ? standard injection,TB's, webers etc? whats everyone got on there 1.8/2.0 zetecs?
Wessie Posted October 18, 2007 Author Report Posted October 18, 2007 is it going into an osf tho wessie nope its going in my mini TBH i think they'd be underpowered for an OSF
antz Posted October 18, 2007 Report Posted October 18, 2007 i know one of perrys mates put a 1600 zetec in a mk2 escort and said it was shite at least itll be reliable
sab6024 Posted October 18, 2007 Report Posted October 18, 2007 I'm considering putting a 1400 zetec motor in a Mk1 Fezza when I get my hands on one. I only want it for my work run about Totally bored of the plastic
Wessie Posted October 18, 2007 Author Report Posted October 18, 2007 i was just thinking of using a zetec due the the price of tuning parts, and availabilty of parts theres lots of bits out there, and engine cost bugger all to pick up, i just want to know if its worth the hassle or wether i should use a 1.4 vauxhall lump, a 1.4 vtec, a 1.4 pug lump etc ?
Fiesta Steve Posted October 18, 2007 Report Posted October 18, 2007 What about a 1400 x-flow ? Should be able to get 120+ bhp out of one without too much expense.
tim Posted October 18, 2007 Report Posted October 18, 2007 1400 k series engine is a very good engine,as is the vauxhall lump from nova's and japs engines
Wessie Posted October 18, 2007 Author Report Posted October 18, 2007 decisions decisions anybody know what the rough price of a 1300 crossflow (FWD) cammed, LSD, twin 40's etc would set me back? as a rough price?
james p Posted October 18, 2007 Report Posted October 18, 2007 my mats got a 1400 zetec fiesta its been ported polished ,new cam ,chip and the usual zorst n air filter goes well or my girl friend may be scraping her nova sr good lump
Wessie Posted October 18, 2007 Author Report Posted October 18, 2007 i'd take the nova, aslong as we're talking sensible money and what sort of power is the zetec putting out you recon?
Copey Posted October 18, 2007 Report Posted October 18, 2007 my mate has a 1.4 zetec fiesta, its felt pretty nippy at first, but after drivin the capri, seems slow, very slow, in a mini it would be fast tho
Wessie Posted October 18, 2007 Author Report Posted October 18, 2007 my mate has a 1.4 zetec fiesta, its felt pretty nippy at first, but after drivin the capri, seems slow, very slow, in a mini it would be fast tho is it standard? i recon with a pair of cams and a few tweaks i could make it rev quite well
Wessie Posted October 18, 2007 Author Report Posted October 18, 2007 1300 zetec rocam out of later ka's whats good about them then tim
james p Posted October 18, 2007 Report Posted October 18, 2007 1300 zetec rocam out of later ka's whats good about them then tim not a lot i had 1
james p Posted October 18, 2007 Report Posted October 18, 2007 i'd take the nova, aslong as we're talking sensible money and what sort of power is the zetec putting out you recon? ill let you know on the nova and ill find out bout the power he got quite a bit dine at torque of the devil i belive so may be worth haveing a chat with them
tim Posted October 18, 2007 Report Posted October 18, 2007 we got a ka ,1250 and 1400 fiesta's courtesy car at work and the ka seems quicker car compared to the 2 fiestas
Copey Posted October 18, 2007 Report Posted October 18, 2007 my mate has a 1.4 zetec fiesta, its felt pretty nippy at first, but after drivin the capri, seems slow, very slow, in a mini it would be fast tho is it standard? i recon with a pair of cams and a few tweaks i could make it rev quite well yeah its standard, for the type of car it is pretty quick, just not compared to a tuned 2.0 capper, lol
Jay_harrier Posted October 18, 2007 Report Posted October 18, 2007 There's a guy out west who tunes the nuts off the 1400 GM unit reports of 200bhp units I'll see if I can find the link. I ran a GpA spec 1300 Nova in the early 90's that made really good power and never broke - there's more people out there tuning GM 1400's than Ford 1400's. I have a sneaky suspicion that the Ford 1400 & 1600 units were completely different and didn't share too many parts From the Burton Website:- Zetec 16v Ford has given the ‘Zetec’ name to two different types of 16v engines. To confuse matters even more, Ford also badges some of their models as Zetec to denote that it is a sports version (usually with alloy wheels, sports suspension, spoilers, etc). A Zetec badged car therefore does not always have a Zetec engine under the bonnet! Zetec E - The original Zetec engine was fitted to Escort, Orion, Fiesta Mk3, Mondeo, Cougar and 1.8/2.0 Focus models. It has been produced in 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0 litre capacities. All engines produced up to April 98 use hydraulic followers, those built from May 98 were redesigned using mechanical followers. The con rods and pistons were also significantly changed with the later engines using a longer rod with a shorter compression height piston. These later engines are fitted in 1.8/2.0 Focus, Cougar and late Mk2 Mondeo models. Zetec S - This is the baby Zetec as fitted to the post 95 Fiesta, Puma and 1.4/1.6 Focus models. It has been produced in 1.25, 1.4, 1.6 and 1.7 litre capacities. These engines bare no mechanical resemblance to the Zetec E engines. Most tuning parts are available only for the Zetec E engine. The following only refers to this engine. The 1.8 105PS engines are easily uprated to 130PS by using standard Ford parts from the 1.8 130PS engine. You will need the throttle housing, cams (or use the Kent FZ1802 cams) and the matching ECU. A power boost valve will eliminate the flat spot that is found between 3300 and 3500 rpm.
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