bomber1 Posted January 7, 2008 Report Posted January 7, 2008 been told today that the low emision zone is to come on to cars next year has anyone else heard anything about it? i thought it was'nt going to affect small vans and cars?
ratman Posted January 7, 2008 Report Posted January 7, 2008 thats about right lets get a wip round to get livingstone bumped off
bomber1 Posted January 7, 2008 Author Report Posted January 7, 2008 well a freind of the family was telling me mum that cars were going to fall foul off this but ive been on the site and it doesnt say anything about it
Muttley MK2 Posted January 7, 2008 Report Posted January 7, 2008 Cars will not be affected, diesel or not. its over 12 ton hgvs from feb this year, then 3.5 ton and above from july. Then in 2010 it will include 1.2 ton and above, thats most diesel vans, transit etc
FredTransit Posted January 7, 2008 Report Posted January 7, 2008 Cars will not be affected, diesel or not. its over 12 ton hgvs from feb this year, then 3.5 ton and above from july. Then in 2010 it will include 1.2 ton and above, thats most diesel vans, transit etc That's right, as far as I know cars will not be included (so far.....) and of course petrol vans of any size, so I feel some nice big V6 and V8s coming one and damn the environment. There is no way even and essex will go through £700 of petrol a week.
Muttley MK2 Posted January 7, 2008 Report Posted January 7, 2008 Cars will not be affected, diesel or not. its over 12 ton hgvs from feb this year, then 3.5 ton and above from july. Then in 2010 it will include 1.2 ton and above, thats most diesel vans, transit etc That's right, as far as I know cars will not be included (so far.....) and of course petrol vans of any size, so I feel some nice big V6 and V8s coming one and damn the environment. There is no way even and essex will go through £700 of petrol a week. Too right, I am considering fitting a transit V6 to my merc wrecker and running it on lpg
FredTransit Posted January 7, 2008 Report Posted January 7, 2008 That's the irony of it, for some reason Ken seems to have completely missed the fact some commercials are/can be petrol, and if I stuff any petrol engine in one of our Mk2 trannies (some of em already are) they will be cat and fuel management free!!
Mr.Sumo Posted January 7, 2008 Report Posted January 7, 2008 thats about right lets get a wip round to get livingstone bumped off where do i send the cheque...mmmmm....
FredTransit Posted January 8, 2008 Report Posted January 8, 2008 Did somebody say whip? I would have a whip round of my own.....
kevmk2 Posted January 8, 2008 Report Posted January 8, 2008 The place where i was working had alot of old lorrys,mostly 7.5 tonne. And they have to replace them all by march,the lorrys cant be any older than 4 years old apparently to pass the emissions test
FredTransit Posted January 8, 2008 Report Posted January 8, 2008 The place where i was working had alot of old lorrys,mostly 7.5 tonne. And they have to replace them all by march,the lorrys cant be any older than 4 years old apparently to pass the emissions test Your firm won't be done even then. Euro cat 5 is coming, and that will be the standard for the scheme when it does. It's rolling, so when an 07 will be exempt in 2010, in 2012 it won't be, so it's ongoing. Basically Ken is trying to turn London into a new commercial showroom, and what happens here in London could happen anywhere in the UK, if it's allowed to go through.
ratman Posted January 8, 2008 Report Posted January 8, 2008 Your firm won't be done even then. Euro cat 5 is coming, and that will be the standard for the scheme when it does. It's rolling, so when an 07 will be exempt in 2010, in 2012 it won't be, so it's ongoing. Basically Ken is trying to turn London into a new commercial showroom, and what happens here in London could happen anywhere in the UK, if it's allowed to go through. Yes but how do we stop it
Mr.Sumo Posted January 8, 2008 Report Posted January 8, 2008 my boss has just paid out £4500 a piece to convert 4 tractor units , just so he can run them in London til 2010 . Livingstone = T****R
FredTransit Posted January 8, 2008 Report Posted January 8, 2008 Your firm won't be done even then. Euro cat 5 is coming, and that will be the standard for the scheme when it does. It's rolling, so when an 07 will be exempt in 2010, in 2012 it won't be, so it's ongoing. Basically Ken is trying to turn London into a new commercial showroom, and what happens here in London could happen anywhere in the UK, if it's allowed to go through. Yes but how do we stop it Basically when it's in, you can't. The secret is to not to let it get in in the first place. What politician is going to be brave enough to say "yes, this system has cost billions to install, but it's not popular so I will cancel it"? After all it's not about the environment, it's about money. If it was about the environment they would ban private cars from central London. Instead they let them in, but charge them. The LEZ again is not about the environment, but money, if not directly as the Zone charge, it's something dodgy going on with the manufacturers of commercials and/or the dealerships.
Guest MK1gaz Posted January 8, 2008 Report Posted January 8, 2008 i saw one of these "zones" on the main road from Purley to Coulsdon today . I wondered what it was as i use a smelly diesil van for work and would like a 6 litre petrol V8 in it instead come 2012 then !!!!!!!!
Muttley MK2 Posted January 8, 2008 Report Posted January 8, 2008 This lez is already in and is unstoppable. I signed an e petition along with about 10,000 others and it was ignored. There is some hope though, if you can get your vehicle to pass the Particulates emmissions test then you get a Reduced Pollution Certificate. This is renewable annually and exempts you from the zone. You can also convert to bio diesel and be exempt. Lots of guys I know with mercs like mine have got them through. I am going to fit a new soot free exhaust and change oil and fuel filters, then go for the test running on 60/40 veggie oil to diesel mix, fingers crossed!
FredTransit Posted January 9, 2008 Report Posted January 9, 2008 This lez is already in and is unstoppable. I signed an e petition along with about 10,000 others and it was ignored. There is some hope though, if you can get your vehicle to pass the Particulates emmissions test then you get a Reduced Pollution Certificate. This is renewable annually and exempts you from the zone. You can also convert to bio diesel and be exempt. Lots of guys I know with mercs like mine have got them through. I am going to fit a new soot free exhaust and change oil and fuel filters, then go for the test running on 60/40 veggie oil to diesel mix, fingers crossed! I looked into this, the particulate trap for a transit works out around £2500, there is no guarantee you will still get through the LEZ emmissions test done by VOSA (extra to the MOT), and you can't just do the test without it. If you pass it's for 1 year and you need it to pass every year, if you fail VOSA grass you up to TFL and theoretically you could get the LEZ surcharge on the way home (£100-200 depending on the wieght of you van or truck), and you have to pass it ti stay on the London roads. Sod it, just fit a petrol engine, until dear Ken puts them in with the LEZ you are free and clear without having to do a seperate emissions test every year or worry that the van will one day soon get too old and have to replace it.
JAY PS Posted January 10, 2008 Report Posted January 10, 2008 I cant belive the amount of signage around Chessington and the A3 ,every road in or out of the area and even dead ends telling you you are in a LEz zone! What a fu@king waste of our money !!! Im bloody furious !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
X-pack-Glyn Posted January 10, 2008 Report Posted January 10, 2008 Did somebody say whip? I would have a whip round of my own.....
bortaf Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 Down boy it's not THAT kind of lez zone
FredTransit Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 Down boy it's not THAT kind of lez zone He wish!
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