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[Retromotorsport]

And after the run .. steve p held the pedal down and steve G checked at the carbs... yep W.O.T

 

 

so that scotches that one .

 

 

Next

I stood next to my car and watched the throttle , it never went anywhere near full throttle on the power run . When i told him this and told him to run it again with me holding it open by hand he started back peddling , went all aggressive and started to unstrap the car . I don't know what his problem was , it must have been the H.P.E. stickers or something

 

 

push on lever till its stops, that will be full throttle..

 

and his words where... maybe a nats cock off, but wouldnt make a damm bit of difference.

 

and as for him unstrapping the car... wrong again, only one person was strapping that day .

 

And as for your " fairy tale readings "

 

Carefull who your slagging there, Arrons, Roush's and Mountunes... must all be doing the same fairy tales .... and again.. the numbers mean fook all unless you have to work for OE manufacturers.

 

 

and yet again i'll say.. bring it back down free of charge.. bring it with an up to date graph from your chossen tuner, as the engines had a few months since the RR day when i 1st said bring it back.

[Retromotorsport]

hello mr oldskoolgeezer , hope the cool 100e is still rocking . I only asked for a 150 bhp pinto escort in full street trim to post up its quarter mile time then the turbosport mob started giving it the big one as usual and you know i'll not shy away from their ganging up tactics

 

 

and you got one.... 149 i think it was and it matched your 156... funny how you say the clock dont lie ...

[Guest MK1gaz]

so why not let me hold the throttle open then , and why mess with all the settings when i told him that it's already been set up 2 weeks before . Why did he say that the cam timing was retarded just by listening to it on idle , especially when the cam timing was expertly set by Ron Harris and Peter Sansom . I know my old engine hasn't got 156 bhp when set up properly and on full throttle , as the 3 other dyno runs on 3 other different dynos confirms .

[Retromotorsport]

GAz what settings did the change ?

[Guest MK1gaz]

The ones that give the power , the dizzy ( timing ) and the carb mixture screws . The fact that iit recorded 156 bhp in that state was a miracle and testiment to a cracking engine .

[Retromotorsport]

I agree.. it pulled thorugh 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th... all the through clean as a whistle... and afterwards drove off sounding crisp and clean.. if it was anything else you would have turned around at the A13/M25 roundabout and come back saying " its kerwapp"

 

you didn't

 

 

also i never saw the adjustment you mention... so i'll bite my tongue .

[RChambers]

Maybe not letting you hold the throttle open by hand has something to do with a minor thing called safety. Would you seriously want your head that close to the engine at maximum revs? Sounds like the start of a Darwin Award if you ask me!

[Guest MK1gaz]

it weren't crisp it was crap , it pulled like an old fart on the way home . The timing + mixture was so far out that it was running on for 30 seconds with the keys out of the car !!!!!!!! I know their your mates but their not very impressive in my experience so we'll leave it at that . I'm sure that they have many happy customers , it's just i've not seen any !!!!!!

[Retromotorsport]

Very happy T&R customer here and I've never been on turbosport !!

 

Nothing but good service from them. If its shit, they'll tell ya so. If its great, they'll tell you that too.

 

I've heard a few people slag them off, and most of them happen to have less hp than they thought they had.

 

 

Got to agree with that,this is the reason i went to Track 'n' Road,because of thier reputation ,sad but true some places do ''quote you happy''

 

 

well theres 2 that have posted on your... yes your thread, just proves you only read and say what you want to see and say ...

 

shall we leave it at that ?

[Guest MK1gaz]

ok then , 2 that rate them , me a big baz think they're crap so 2 all .

[Retromotorsport]

Very happy T&R customer here and I've never been on turbosport !!

 

Nothing but good service from them. If its shit, they'll tell ya so. If its great, they'll tell you that too.

 

I've heard a few people slag them off, and most of them happen to have less hp than they thought they had.

 

 

Got to agree with that,this is the reason i went to Track 'n' Road,because of thier reputation ,sad but true some places do ''quote you happy''

 

 

well theres 2 that have posted on your... yes your thread, just proves you only read and say what you want to see and say ...

 

shall we leave it at that ?

[Guest MK1gaz]

it must be deja-vu , so anymore track n road fans out there apart from the turbosport lot then

[Retromotorsport]

it must be deja-vu , so anymore track n road fans out there apart from the turbosport lot then

 

 

Yeah from LMP1/2 , F1 BOSS , Historic GP C's, Mosler, Nobel,............ and the man in the street. Be that a street in England, Scotland , Wales , Ireland, Germany, Holland, Greece, errm One in Barbados ... think a few even in that little country Surrey

[Guest MK1gaz]

yes but all those billy big boy tunning companies you've listed above only go there because their rolling road is capable of reading more than the average 350 bhp at the wheels that most of the other dynos can do . So if you need to get a power reading for a 600 bhp engine to sell to a customer than you are limited to where you can go . They propably only work around the corner from track n road anyway so it easy to go there . What about normal blokes with road cars then , so apart from the turbosport lot , who reckons it's any good

[Pipster007]

I'd never used a rolling road before, but I found them to be fine. The good thing with them is that they are very accomodating for the times they work. They can be there until all hours as they know most people work during the day, so they let you come in after you've finished work, then they start work.

 

I was also advised to bring lots of biscuits and offer to make lots of tea.

 

I may well try someone different next time, purely to see what different people do.

 

But as I say, I was more than happy with Track and Road

[Fiesta Steve]

The ones that give the power , the dizzy ( timing ) and the carb mixture screws .

 

Adjusting the 'carb mixture' screws will make cock all difference to the power your engine makes.

[Guest MK1gaz]

The ones that give the power , the dizzy ( timing ) and the carb mixture screws .

 

Adjusting the 'carb mixture' screws will make cock all difference to the power your engine makes.

really , why do they have them then ? I'll move your dizzy and fiddle with all your mixture screws next time your going to race up the strip then and see if it goes as well .

[Guest MK1gaz]

I'd never used a rolling road before, but I found them to be fine. The good thing with them is that they are very accomodating for the times they work. They can be there until all hours as they know most people work during the day, so they let you come in after you've finished work, then they start work.

 

I was also advised to bring lots of biscuits and offer to make lots of tea.

 

I may well try someone different next time, purely to see what different people do.

 

But as I say, I was more than happy with Track and Road

well phil likes them , he's not been anywhere else yet so when he does he can compare how his car goes/runs

[emu]

The ones that give the power , the dizzy ( timing ) and the carb mixture screws .

 

Adjusting the 'carb mixture' screws will make cock all difference to the power your engine makes.

 

Im glad someone else was thinking that.

 

Also numerous people have pointed out that the rollers just give a number.

Isnt this exactly the reason why it isnt ideal to swap and change which rollers you use? Surely it wouldnt matter(not to the car anyway, just in your head) if a set of rollers underread so far that it said your super dooper new engine made 45hp provided you used the same set after tuning/ further modifications had been carried out. The numbers dont need to be huge, just consistent surely?

[emu]

The ones that give the power , the dizzy ( timing ) and the carb mixture screws .

 

Adjusting the 'carb mixture' screws will make cock all difference to the power your engine makes.

really , why do they have them then ? I'll move your dizzy and fiddle with all your mixture screws next time your going to race up the strip then and see if it goes as well .

 

carb mixture screws only adjust your idle mixture, you can fiddle with mine as much as you like, Ill just fiddle them back to get it through its MOT. Thats why carburettors have jets, emulsion tubes and whathaveyou so that the mixture through the revs can be altered.

[Guest MK1gaz]

what about the balance bar screws in the middle of the 2 carbs then , can i adjust them for you as well then ?

[KJ 1320]

mine was mapped at T&R and as far as i'm concerned they did a top job and i will be using them again next year

[Fiesta Steve]

The ones that give the power , the dizzy ( timing ) and the carb mixture screws .

 

Adjusting the 'carb mixture' screws will make cock all difference to the power your engine makes.

really , why do they have them then ? I'll move your dizzy and fiddle with all your mixture screws next time your going to race up the strip then and see if it goes as well .

 

carb mixture screws only adjust your idle mixture, you can fiddle with mine as much as you like, Ill just fiddle them back to get it through its MOT. Thats why carburettors have jets, emulsion tubes and whathaveyou so that the mixture through the revs can be altered.

 

Thanks Emu, glad someone knows what they are on about.

[Guest MK1gaz]

oooooh well , looks like mines the only car with a dizzy and dcoe carbs that's tuned/set up for power by adjusting the carbs and moving the dizzy left and right . Where can i buy these " never need adjusting and always make full power no mather what you do " carbs and dizzys then ?

[Guest MK1gaz]

mine was mapped at T&R and as far as i'm concerned they did a top job and i will be using them again next year

He likes them but mapping is different to oldskool tuning technics , still a satisfied track n road customer he is .