Jimbob-Squarepants © Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 The fuel pump was taken off of a 1600GT Crossflow Engine so could it be that the camshaft is not pushing the rod enough for the pump to work properly? You know what, I have wondered about that as well. But to be honest, the lobe on the camshaft should be the same. I have a mechanical fuel pump on the Anglia which is for a 997cc. The engine is now a 1380 with a high lift cam and twin stromberg carburettors. I have no fueling issues... well other than it's a wee bit thirstier than a 997cc
72mk1escort Posted March 25, 2008 Author Report Posted March 25, 2008 Right i done a test today to check for it is the fuel pump by getting to the stage where it dies and i let it die completely and cut straight away as soon as it did i switched the ignition to position 1 and dipped the clutch and pulled to the side of the road. I opened the bonnet and the fuel pump was full as was the fuel filter which is just before the carb and i could see in through the top of the float bowl that it had fuel in it So i am now totally baffled All that is now left really is the carburetter Is there any chance anyone can get or show me a blow up diagram of a twin choke weber 32DGV carb that shows you which jets go where just in case i have put them in the wrong places All i know is that there is only 2 jets thats i could have possibly got mixed up one being a 110 and one being a 160 could anyone possibly tell me whether the 160 should be for the barrel thats in use the most or for the second one? Any help would really be appeciated
Bluesplus2s Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 If you can hang on til tomorrow night mate, I'll get you an exploded diagram and a list of what jets etc should be in what carb. My weber book is in my workshop and I'll be there tomorrow playing with the escort.
72mk1escort Posted March 25, 2008 Author Report Posted March 25, 2008 If you can hang on til tomorrow night mate, I'll get you an exploded diagram and a list of what jets etc should be in what carb. My weber book is in my workshop and I'll be there tomorrow playing with the escort. That would be a great help mate Also you have PM!
Supercharged Nat Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 Hey ive done some digging around and found this lot that may help- this link at the BOTTOM of the page shows you float level settings- not the orientation of the lid when measuring the heights (you want to be looking at the dgv series - plastic or brass float depending on what youve got.) http://www.racetep.com/weberX.html this link is an exploded diagram and parts list for the 2.0L version (so jets are worng sizes) http://www.racetep.com/weber/32_36DGV.pdf the jets your talking about to me, must be the air correctors. the larger one goes into the smaller (used all the time) venturi. the same is true for the main jets (located in the bottom front edge of the fuel bowl)- see the exploded diagram. Take your time with it though, dont rush it as, they are complicated until you get your head around them!
radar tech Posted March 26, 2008 Report Posted March 26, 2008 Right i done a test today to check for it is the fuel pump by getting to the stage where it dies and i let it die completely and cut straight away as soon as it did i switched the ignition to position 1 and dipped the clutch and pulled to the side of the road. the only way to test that properley matey would be to run an in line fuel pressure gauge and look at the when the car dies. Coz when you pulled over the car had time to idle , thus build fuel pressure back up ! I wouldnt mind a copy of that DGV diagram As i said a few days ago the float level figs given in the haynes manual are way different that what my proper ford workshop manual states. still yet to test the ford settings dave
oldbus Posted March 26, 2008 Report Posted March 26, 2008 Try taking off the inline filter and try it again. We had a similar problem with my mates 2.8 Granada a couple of weeks ago. Dismantled the carb, cleaned it. still the same. swapped carbs to a spare i had, still didn´t want to play. Stripped and cleaned that one too and it still didn´t want to rumn above 4000rpm. The next day my mate took out the filter and it went like it should!! Worth a try i suppose.
72mk1escort Posted March 26, 2008 Author Report Posted March 26, 2008 I dont think it can be that as i am using the same filter i used when i was running the standard carb and it did'nt give any problems I am going to wait for blueplus2 rs to send me the blow up diagram of my particular carb and i am going to check everything is in the correct place and then set the float levels If that doesn't cure it then i will try changing the fuel pump back to my old one to see if that solves it Cheers for all of the help so far guys you's lot are great
Bluesplus2s Posted March 26, 2008 Report Posted March 26, 2008 I've scanned the bits in mate, along with the jetting list. It's taking forever to email them to you, bear with me it may take a few attempts!
72mk1escort Posted March 26, 2008 Author Report Posted March 26, 2008 I've scanned the bits in mate, along with the jetting list. It's taking forever to email them to you, bear with me it may take a few attempts! You are a legend mate Thanks so much for doing this for me I owe you one
jayson2.3pinto Posted March 26, 2008 Report Posted March 26, 2008 hux because you could see fuel in the bowl does not mean you got fuel in the carb it could not have the presure to fill the carb as quick as it would be used when giving it some
steve mk2 Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 Right got it all running now after totally dismantling the carb in the garage and cleaning every last jet etc and blowing the whole carb housing through with a blow jet on the compressor. Everything is fine except now i have a totally different fault which is when on the motorway in 4th or 3rd gear and trying to accelerate it wont go above 4000RPM without dieing and coming back it makes the car jugger backwards and forwards The only thing i am suspecting for this fault is the fuel pump as the arm on the new pump was abit different to my old one and someone said that could cause the fault???? Anyone know what it could be? im getting ure exact problem and i dont have a pump fitted but mine is 5000rpm i aint a clue wat it is??
72mk1escort Posted March 27, 2008 Author Report Posted March 27, 2008 im getting ure exact problem and i dont have a pump fitted but mine is 5000rpm i aint a clue wat it is?? If i get to the bottom of it i will let you know mate
72mk1escort Posted March 28, 2008 Author Report Posted March 28, 2008 Right my Dad spent quite some time dismantling my carburetter yesterday we checked the jets where all in the correct place which they were not (i had got both the idle and air correction jets mixed up so they were going into the wring barrels on the carburetter. Once we had done that my Dad set the float level to the books specification and put it all back together.He then timed it up for me as that had not been done since ive had it It was slightly retarded but all good now He then set the carburetter up using his guns tons color tester so we knew there was no problems there then.I then took it for a drive to test it out and i had a similar problem to before except it was dieing out alot sooner than before.So i brought it back home and as an experiment we set the float chamber to take in and be as full of petrol as possible. This has very almost cured the fault so i am now looking at the fuel pump being iffy or wrong for my car I looked on ebay at some fuel pumps and the one ive got is listed for 1600GT (only) and another auction there is a fuel pump listed for 1.3,1.6(no GT) so i am thinking it could be wrong for my car Also where can i post up some technical information about these carbs for other people to use? Cheers guys and i hope this experience i have had helps some of you to cure your faults that are similar
bortaf Posted March 28, 2008 Report Posted March 28, 2008 X flow GT pump is different, this came up on buysellcortina a while back don't know if it'll cure the problem?
radar tech Posted March 28, 2008 Report Posted March 28, 2008 i would check the float level again.. here are the official ford settings for a brass float in a DGV from an origional ford sevice manual. vertical setting (needle valve shut off ) 38mm to bottom of float horizontal setting ( float hanging down - needle valve open ) 50mm to bottom of the float these figures are different to the haynes manual cheeRS dave
Supercharged Nat Posted March 28, 2008 Report Posted March 28, 2008 not trying to say told you so, but it was said to check the pump first... your carb will need to be played about with again once the pump has been sorted out... glad your getting somewhere with it though!
72mk1escort Posted March 28, 2008 Author Report Posted March 28, 2008 not trying to say told you so, but it was said to check the pump first... your carb will need to be played about with again once the pump has been sorted out... glad your getting somewhere with it though! I really did think it was the carb and something kept dragging me back to that as i was doubting my work I guess at least i got the jets all back as they should be now so it wasn't a completely useless task All i can say is i have learnt alot about carburetters and fuel pumps over the past week or so Thanks so much for all of the help and info guys
72mk1escort Posted March 28, 2008 Author Report Posted March 28, 2008 Also i found out i can get a brand new pump to fit my car from the local spares shop for £12 odd So gonna order that up and if the weathers good i will put it on tomorrow and set the float chamber to the Ford settings (thanks for them radar ) I will keep you all updated and let you know if this cures the fault i am sure it will
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