what would you do??

[shaun1.6ghia]

i have a mk2 escort 1.6 and a mk1 escort (my dads, but hopefully mine soon) i want it to be fast but able to drive it on the roads a lot.

what would/have you done?

2l sounds good, mod?

what would be needed?

ideas?

[bomber1]

whats the mk1 1300/1600? tbh the mk2 4door i had was has been the most fun with the escorts ive owned as it was cheap to run and i wasent worried about scratcing it or pranging it. where as the mk1 which is having a 2.1 pinto going in has been nothing but trouble

[Rick]

i wouldnt mess til you got some insurance quotes and build costs

[geoffersmasher]

wack in a 1680 and a hit it with the noisey stick, may have a mate who has a well built 1680 up for sale shortly. seems to do better miles than my 1600

 

but maybe thats because my guauge lies

[pauldee]

i wouldnt mess til you got some insurance quotes and build costs

 

i don't think he's bothered bout ££££ mate.

put it in, 2l pinto, world cup xmember, capri legs an bigger rad.

go for it

[shaun1.6ghia]

i wouldnt mess til you got some insurance quotes and build costs

 

i don't think he's bothered bout ££££ mate.

put it in, 2l pinto, world cup xmember, capri legs an bigger rad.

go for it

 

thanks,

yeah im not bothered, dont wanna pay race type prices.

jus looking for ideas...anyone?

the mk1 is 1300, finkin about doing it to my mk2 tho.. want more speed.

[richie_stix]

if you can afford it, zetec it... reliable and will pay you BACK IN FUEL BILLS IN NO TIME

 

if not, just slap in a 2ltr pinto and mildly tune it... cams, carbs, ignition, rad etc!

[emu]

i wouldnt mess til you got some insurance quotes and build costs

 

i don't think he's bothered bout ££££ mate.

put it in, 2l pinto, world cup xmember, capri legs an bigger rad.

go for it

 

thanks,

yeah im not bothered, dont wanna pay race type prices.

jus looking for ideas...anyone?

the mk1 is 1300, finkin about doing it to my mk2 tho.. want more speed.

 

I'd still agree with Rick and at the very least get insurance quotes before you do anything.

 

It doesnt matter how fast your car is if you cant even move it of the driveway

[shaun1.6ghia]

emu, i can get a good insurance quote, dont worry..

 

djrichie_stix, wat do you recomend, cam, carb wise?

 

i was thinking 2.1 with type 9 5speed, mild cam (any ideas?) and a re-jetted webber (any size ideas?) or twin webbers (altho could afford twin bike carbs). any pro's or cons guys?

[mossy]

if i had the choice now....after seeing how mk2zetec's car goes with a standard zetec on a emerald base map, i would deffo consider a zetec

 

pay £150 for the mondeo, get £100 back for the shell when you scrap it, then whatever management you want to run.

[shaun1.6ghia]

if i had the choice now....after seeing how mk2zetec's car goes with a standard zetec on a emerald base map, i would deffo consider a zetec

 

pay £150 for the mondeo, get £100 back for the shell when you scrap it, then whatever management you want to run.

 

that does sound very convincing, what kind of power you looking at?

whats the setup like, what would i need? (list everything as i dont know much about zetecs) thanks guys

[zetecmk2]

you need an old mondeo, £150ish, ecu(£500) st170 inlet manifold(£?), patience to make the loom (free) throttle bodies(motorbike, £50) fuel pump (your mondeo) water rail (can make your own) and 4 bits of samco. plus fuel lines.... oh... and a more powerful engine coz after a year, you get bored!!!! just put the v8 huyabusa lump in now!!

[shaun1.6ghia]

you need an old mondeo, £150ish, ecu(£500) st170 inlet manifold(£?), patience to make the loom (free) throttle bodies(motorbike, £50) fuel pump (your mondeo) water rail (can make your own) and 4 bits of samco. plus fuel lines.... oh... and a more powerful engine coz after a year, you get bored!!!! just put the v8 huyabusa lump in now!!

 

nah int putting v8 huyabusa lump in, ill kill myself, want some kind of control on the road...

so all together im looking to pay around £800 for a 2l zetec. an a hell of a lot of work to fit it in, what crossmember would it fit on?

a pinto is so much easier/cheaper.hmmm what to do....

[richie_stix]

if cash is an issue, tune a pinto... more fun!

 

a high torque cam, decent head, 4-2-1 manifold and a set of bike carbs... will be sweet! not to mention the sound you will get!

[ASBO CAPRI]

If it was me i'd go with the pinto route for cheap an ease aswell.

I'd fit injection head, FR32 cam if u can afford it, jetted 38dgas carb, decent exhaust and tube manifold that lot should give u 130bhp mabey more. Don't forget though your need RS2000 sump, mounts and prop.

Im guessing this would be still cheaper than fitting Zetec.

[shaun1.6ghia]

if cash is an issue, tune a pinto... more fun!

 

a high torque cam, decent head, 4-2-1 manifold and a set of bike carbs... will be sweet! not to mention the sound you will get!

 

pinto

 

If it was me i'd go with the pinto route for cheap an ease aswell.

I'd fit injection head, FR32 cam if u can afford it, jetted 38dgas carb, decent exhaust and tube manifold that lot should give u 130bhp mabey more. Don't forget though your need RS2000 sump, mounts and prop.

Im guessing this would be still cheaper than fitting Zetec.

thanks guys, that all sounds great, pintos are the way i think.

they sound great, go well and they're "old skool".

pinto, jetted carb, 2.8i legs, rs2000 sump, mounts and world cup x-member. what u think?

do i need any other rad or electrics? new starter?

[Retromotorsport]

The Zetecs old school ... the Duratec is new school

 

To be honest ,,and remember i dont make any money out of engines ..

 

The fuel returns for the power from the zetec piss all over the pinto, to get a 150 horse pinto is going to cost some money.. phone up dave Colledge at Retroford (no relation) and get a fitting kit price, then add the bike carbs and an ecu .. the engine sounds the same as a twin carb'ed engine because it is ..

 

And then think long term .. 40mpg instead of 20mpg .. 100 mile trip each day at the weekend .. 2.5 gallons for the zetec and 5 gallons for the pinto

 

£14.37 in fuel a day for the zetec

£28.75 in fuel a day for the pinto

 

A £14.38 saving each day

 

2 days a week .. and 40 weeks in the year of driving it .. £1150.40 saving in a year .. the Zetec sorta pays for its self after one year of motoring ..

 

people like neil Roper can get it up to around 200bhp reliably for around £600 (head plus cams ) .. if you do the bottom end in it just another 50 quid engine you need in teh zetec and a weekend to swap the goodies over .. blow a 2.1 pinto and its bucks again ..and you will need a 2.1 to see over 150 horse reliably ..

[MK2Ed]

To get 150bhp out of a pinto you will need a good base unit (so yep a 2.1 re-bore with v6 pistons & standard crank), you'll need a good head (stage 3), 45's, 10.5:1 compression and an RL31 or similar cam (but the rally cam will give you a nice wall of torque)..........

 

The above will prob see you good for 150 + if pro-built...........

 

I'd go pinto but then I'm biased...