ELECTION 2010

[Pipster007]

If you don't vote, then it means you can't bitch and moan about how the country is being run.

 

It took me a long time to see the significance of that statement

[Mk2Jo]

If you don't vote, then it means you can't bitch and moan about how the country is being run.

 

It took me a long time to see the significance of that statement

 

[LGreen]

Who ever gets in is going to have a hard time, the country has been run into the ground so its going to be a few hard years while it gets back on its feet no mater who wins. They wont be popular but it will solve the countrys problems hopefully. I'm voting Cons as its happened like this is the past. Labour mess it up then cons get back in and have it hard getting it back on track.

[Stu_B]

Who ever gets in is going to have a hard time, the country has been run into the ground so its going to be a few hard years while it gets back on its feet no mater who wins.

 

Thats what we all said when labour came into power!

[Vista]

Who ever gets in is going to have a hard time, the country has been run into the ground so its going to be a few hard years while it gets back on its feet no mater who wins.

 

Thats what we all said when labour came into power!

 

Who said? Labour took over from a party that had admittedly lost its way and was spoiled by infighting.......mainly due to it lacking a charismatic leader. But immigration was in check, unemployment was down, the country was prosperous and the balance sheet was in the black.

 

Now we have the same negative points re party infighting......but none of the plus points. And our armed forces are chronically overstretched and under funded. Don't get me wrong, the forces are there to do the politicians bidding, but to send them off to war ill prepared, under funded and under equipped is a crime that somebody should be held to account for.

 

What we need now is drastic change and I for one hope that enough people will see beyond the commonly perpetuated myth that labour is the friend of the working class and the conservatives will screw down on the poor to ease taxes on the rich.

 

I guess what I'm saying is vote with your head and not with your heart....i.e. Don't vote for one particular party just because you always have and so did your father and his father before you.

[Pipster007]

But immigration was in check, unemployment was down, the country was prosperous and the balance sheet was in the black.

 

And 15% interest rates on your mortgage

[Vista]

Interest rates when the Labour party took over in 1997 were about 6.5%. You're thinking of the interest rates earlier in the 80's that were necessary to pay off the debt built up by the previous labour government.

 

Here you go, Interest rate history. On the way down long before TB came to power

 

[pauln]

sorry but i aint voting some may say im wrong for doing it but the way i look at it is to be politicians you need to be able to lie well and feed crap out to the public and why would i want to vote for someone like that

 

Simple, one party or another is going to get in. Wouldn't you rather have a say (however) small) in how the country is run for the next four/five years? Voting is very important in british politics and voter apathy is a big problem.......what really makes me laugh though is when the non voters later complain about their lot.

 

Now we have some common ground, it took long enough to get the working man the vote so I owe it to those that earned it for me to use it. My wife would crawl over broken glass to vote because the suffragettes got it for her. Our vote will not change a thing as the Tory round my way has 53% of the vote but we are still going to use our right to vote.

[Mk2Jo]

Useful information Vista, thank you

[pauln]

Useful information Vista, thank you

 

Very useful info, I had forgotten the Tories use interest rates as a weapon. Good news for savers, not so good for the borrowers .

[Vista]

Useful information Vista, thank you

 

Very useful info, I had forgotten the Tories use interest rates as a weapon. Good news for savers, not so good for the borrowers .

 

Interest rates are no longer controlled by the governing party but by the Bank of England, perhaps you'd forgotten that too?

[pauln]

Useful information Vista, thank you

 

Very useful info, I had forgotten the Tories use interest rates as a weapon. Good news for savers, not so good for the borrowers .

 

Interest rates are no longer controlled by the governing party but by the Bank of England, perhaps you'd forgotten that too?

 

No I had'nt forgotten but theres nothing stopping the Tories taking over control again and doing a Leon Brittain (I had'nt forgotten that either).

[Vista]

Am I missing something here? I assume your reference to Leon Brittan is concerning the Westland affair and his leaking of certain documents to the press.........................but I don't get how that's relevant here.

[pauln]

Am I missing something here? I assume your reference to Leon Brittan is concerning the Westland affair and his leaking of certain documents to the press.........................but I don't get how that's relevant here.

 

Hang on I think you are right (the memory is going) I meant Norman Lamont. I should have remembered him he was the bloke that nearly took my house off us if his interest rate had remained (no way I could afford the £1000 a month it was going to be).

[Vista]

Norman Lamont. He (for one day) pushed interest rates up to 15% on Black Wednesday in 1992 in an effort to prevent currency speculators from selling sterling. When it failed we dropped out of the ERM and interests rates dropped again the next day.

[pauln]

Norman Lamont. He (for one day) pushed interest rates up to 15% on Black Wednesday in 1992 in an effort to prevent currency speculators from selling sterling. When it failed we dropped out of the ERM and interests rates dropped again the next day.

 

Sorry I was'nt editing as fast as you were replying.

[GT_lenny]

would it be possible to have a tempory "election room" for those who want to discuss their political views away from the normal folk who are fed up with hearing about the forthcoming election , i'm not suggesting its not important but its not what come into "chit chat" on a car forum for

[accord83]

Your right to vote is an important thing to have, my old man didn't spend the best part of 5yrs bombing the crap out of a facist regime, (he was still pulling shrapnel out of his face last year before he died at 89) whilst he and his collegues suffered an over 60% mortality rate for our generation to say "I can't be arsed". If you don't vote you have no right to bitch, but think how your right to vote was protected.

[GT_lenny]

READ what i've written i will be voting and i do belive the right to vote is a very important one but thought a special room to discuss political matters might be appropriate whilst the election is on

[accord83]

It was not aimed at you mate, it was a general statement for people to consider

[Vista]

would it be possible to have a tempory "election room"

 

In a word, no. Chit chat is for just that and it doesn't have to be car related. This is the only thread about it and there's nothing forcing you to read it so feel free to participate in the thread or simply ignore it.

[Smudger105e]

I know my political pursuasion lie somewhat left of Scott's, but I will be voting Labour. Imho, the Tories are not in touch ith the man in the street, for example, Cameron was a mate at school of Boris Johnson!

 

It can be argued that Labour did this, ories did that etc, but I remeber the Thatcher years, unemployment was high, nationalised industries were privatised at rediculously low sell off prices, and a plethora of diferent reasons I could not ever vote Tory.

[Vista]

What a surprise, on a Petrol head forum, no-one has offered any support for the Green party

 

What is their manifesto anyway?

 

Ban cars, eating meat, Tax air travel till only the super rich can afford it and tree hugging to become a pensionable state funded occupation?

 

 

Hmmmm, just had a look at their website and I confess to being disappointed, I can't find a single mention of tree hugging!..........................It must be in the small print somewhere!

[Stu_B]

Hmmmm, just had a look at their website and I confess to being disappointed, I can't find a single mention of tree hugging!..........................It must be in the small print somewhere!

 

It was banned for fear of discriminating against the shrubs & bushes

[Mk2Jo]

would it be possible to have a tempory "election room" for those who want to discuss their political views away from the normal folk who are fed up with hearing about the forthcoming election , i'm not suggesting its not important but its not what come into "chit chat" on a car forum for

 

Shut your cakehole and stop moaning What are you looking at this post for anyway if you don't like politics .... this is the only post about the forthcoming election and the title shows the content of the post