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It aint far off mate, if the DVLA and Euro iddiots get there way it wont be long! and you cant tell me you own a moded old car and know nothing of the impending doom?

 

PS Its 1 year away from them stoping you moding new cars!

 

This is the current "rules" not strictly inforced but soon when you go for a MOT the mot tester will be asked to put if the car is modified or not, if they select Yes one day very soon VOSA will want to inspect the car!

 

If you build an extensively modified car based on one that's already registered it may be classed as a RADICALLY ALTERED VEHICLE

This covers vehicles which are substantially altered from their original specification, but which are not kit conversions.

In these cases the vehicle components used from the original vehicle will be given a numerical value and, in order to retain the original registration mark the vehicle must score eight or more points.

If less than eight points are scored or a second-hand or modified chassis/frame or an altered monocoque bodyshell is used an IVA certificate will be required to register the vehicle and a “Q” prefix registration number will be allocated.

The following values will be allocated

to the major components used:

• Chassis or bodyshell – monocoque (original or new)*........5

• Suspension (front & back)............................................2

• Axles (both)...............................................................2

• Transmission..............................................................2

• Steering assembly.......................................................2

• Engine.......................................................................1

*Direct replacement from the manufacturers

Posted
It aint far off mate, if the DVLA and Euro iddiots get there way it wont be long! and you cant tell me you own a moded old car and know nothing of the impending doom?

no mate never knew anything about it, always hear this that and the other but never know what to believe

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Just remember it shows a Bad trend! 10 years from now if its not standard it wont be legal on the road,......

In some country's its not allowed to do anything.

In Belgium even a little wing on the boot is not alowed and need to be removed every MOT. If its not factory fitted its no no there.

 

In Germany everything has to be TUV aproved meaning after every modification meaning wheels, or tyre size, exhaust, plastic fantastic parts or whatever, you have to go for a TUV inspection before the car will be road legal again. Most do all the modifications at once so they only have to do one TUV inspection.

 

Holland is going the same route now ( European rules...) so Ill guess it won't take long before England will folow.

 

Ohh and I realy like plastic fantastic....... my genuine 1979 X-Pack Capri 3.0 is full of it.......

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to be fair, most mot testers wouldnt know if SMALL mods had been done on osf's. how many testers do you know that would know what suspension a osf had as standard. most testers are younger than our osf's now. :thumbsup:

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How am I going to get to work in the morning :lol::lol::lol:

 

You could take this guys snow plough?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unless of course you're a closet Beetle :shit::shit::shit: fan?

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to be fair, most mot testers wouldnt know if SMALL mods had been done on osf's. how many testers do you know that would know what suspension a osf had as standard. most testers are younger than our osf's now. :thumbsup:

 

They can "guess" it will then be down to the DVLA then to decide whats original and whats not

Posted
It aint far off mate, if the DVLA and Euro iddiots get there way it wont be long! and you cant tell me you own a moded old car and know nothing of the impending doom?

 

PS Its 1 year away from them stoping you moding new cars!

 

This is the current "rules" not strictly inforced but soon when you go for a MOT the mot tester will be asked to put if the car is modified or not, if they select Yes one day very soon VOSA will want to inspect the car!

 

If you build an extensively modified car based on one that's already registered it may be classed as a RADICALLY ALTERED VEHICLE

This covers vehicles which are substantially altered from their original specification, but which are not kit conversions.

In these cases the vehicle components used from the original vehicle will be given a numerical value and, in order to retain the original registration mark the vehicle must score eight or more points.

If less than eight points are scored or a second-hand or modified chassis/frame or an altered monocoque bodyshell is used an IVA certificate will be required to register the vehicle and a “Q” prefix registration number will be allocated.

The following values will be allocated

to the major components used:

• Chassis or bodyshell – monocoque (original or new)*........5

• Suspension (front & back)............................................2

• Axles (both)...............................................................2

• Transmission..............................................................2

• Steering assembly.......................................................2

• Engine.......................................................................1

*Direct replacement from the manufacturers

 

I am aware of this, but won't be running around like a headless chicken. At least one of my vans would only achieve a measly 2 points, yet it gets tested, insured and taxed every year, and the system is enforceable today. Insure it, test it, tax it, DRIVE! That's good enough for me!

Posted
It aint far off mate, if the DVLA and Euro iddiots get there way it wont be long! and you cant tell me you own a moded old car and know nothing of the impending doom?

 

PS Its 1 year away from them stoping you moding new cars!

 

This is the current "rules" not strictly inforced but soon when you go for a MOT the mot tester will be asked to put if the car is modified or not, if they select Yes one day very soon VOSA will want to inspect the car!

 

If you build an extensively modified car based on one that's already registered it may be classed as a RADICALLY ALTERED VEHICLE

This covers vehicles which are substantially altered from their original specification, but which are not kit conversions.

In these cases the vehicle components used from the original vehicle will be given a numerical value and, in order to retain the original registration mark the vehicle must score eight or more points.

If less than eight points are scored or a second-hand or modified chassis/frame or an altered monocoque bodyshell is used an IVA certificate will be required to register the vehicle and a “Q” prefix registration number will be allocated.

The following values will be allocated

to the major components used:

• Chassis or bodyshell – monocoque (original or new)*........5

• Suspension (front & back)............................................2

• Axles (both)...............................................................2

• Transmission..............................................................2

• Steering assembly.......................................................2

• Engine.......................................................................1

*Direct replacement from the manufacturers

 

I am aware of this, but won't be running around like a headless chicken. At least one of my vans would only achieve a measly 2 points, yet it gets tested, insured and taxed every year, and the system is enforceable today. Insure it, test it, tax it, DRIVE! That's good enough for me!

 

So basicly your driving a un-insured ringer then and admiting it on a public forum? bit silly no?

Posted
It aint far off mate, if the DVLA and Euro iddiots get there way it wont be long! and you cant tell me you own a moded old car and know nothing of the impending doom?

 

PS Its 1 year away from them stoping you moding new cars!

 

This is the current "rules" not strictly inforced but soon when you go for a MOT the mot tester will be asked to put if the car is modified or not, if they select Yes one day very soon VOSA will want to inspect the car!

 

If you build an extensively modified car based on one that's already registered it may be classed as a RADICALLY ALTERED VEHICLE

This covers vehicles which are substantially altered from their original specification, but which are not kit conversions.

In these cases the vehicle components used from the original vehicle will be given a numerical value and, in order to retain the original registration mark the vehicle must score eight or more points.

If less than eight points are scored or a second-hand or modified chassis/frame or an altered monocoque bodyshell is used an IVA certificate will be required to register the vehicle and a “Q” prefix registration number will be allocated.

The following values will be allocated

to the major components used:

• Chassis or bodyshell – monocoque (original or new)*........5

• Suspension (front & back)............................................2

• Axles (both)...............................................................2

• Transmission..............................................................2

• Steering assembly.......................................................2

• Engine.......................................................................1

*Direct replacement from the manufacturers

 

I am aware of this, but won't be running around like a headless chicken. At least one of my vans would only achieve a measly 2 points, yet it gets tested, insured and taxed every year, and the system is enforceable today. Insure it, test it, tax it, DRIVE! That's good enough for me!

 

So basicly your driving a un-insured ringer then and admiting it on a public forum? bit silly no?

 

No, Fred is not driving a ringer at all, what she is saying is that one of her vehicles has non standard trasmission, steering and engine and has had body mods done, thereby not scoring many points at all! Does not mean it's illegal, dangerous or a ringer.

Posted

If its only got 2 points its not got the original shell, if it has got the original shell/chassis its got those 5 points back even if its modified as long as it maintains most of its original design features,

Posted
If its only got 2 points its not got the original shell, if it has got the original shell/chassis its got those 5 points back even if its modified as long as it maintains most of its original design features,

 

Maybe its now got a beaver tail, and the chassis has been cut and extended so it is not original or to the maufacturer's specifications?

Posted

fair enough its 50/50 then, get a arsey VOSA inspector at the side of the road and it will be stuck with a IVA test and tow'd away even moreso if the original vin tags / stamps are not there

 

Cut and extended = RADICALLY ALTERED

Extended with bever tail added (but not chassis extended is not classed as RADICALLY ALTERED

 

 

 

so if it is a 2 pointer its iligal on the road on the original ID end of, might just as well be un insured ect! just depends if you ever get stoped by VOSA / police when its the wrong time of the month for them

 

"If less than eight points are scored or a second-hand or modified chassis/frame or an altered monocoque bodyshell is used an IVA certificate will be required to register the vehicle and a “Q” prefix registration number will be allocated."

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