are you...

[4parajon]

As an ex-soldier every trouble spot Ive ever been sent too you could trace back to starting because of peoples different religious beliefs with the exception of Columbia, that was a drugs issue.

 

My own opinion is "whatever gets you through the day", I dont subscribe to any beliefs myself but if it helps you personally, then go with it.

 

Off topic slightly, did anyone see that Theroux guy on TV a couple of weeks ago with "The most hated family in America"????

If you did'nt they were as the title really they had IMO interpreted the bible to reflect there hate on 99.9% of the population, they would quite openly walk around with placards saying "death to all gays" amonst other things. The one that angered me more than any other though was that they would "picket" the funeral of a serviceman with placards saying he deserved to die and death to all soldiers etc, you would see the bereaved family of widow, children, mothers and fathers in tears and these people were outside the church giving it loads, made my blood boil.

[Vista]

Off topic slightly, did anyone see that Theroux guy on TV a couple of weeks ago with "The most hated family in America"????

If you did'nt they were as the title really they had IMO interpreted the bible to reflect there hate on 99.9% of the population, they would quite openly walk around with placards saying "death to all gays" amonst other things. The one that angered me more than any other though was that they would "picket" the funeral of a serviceman with placards saying he deserved to die and death to all soldiers etc, you would see the bereaved family of widow, children, mothers and fathers in tears and these people were outside the church giving it loads, made my blood boil.

 

America has a fairly long history of betraying its returning servicemen, the way the Vietnam veterans were treated on their return was shameful. It has to be said though we aren't doing too well with the way we're treating our own casualties at the moment, closing the military hospitals was a mistake that I knew would come home to roost!

[Burns]

i love these debates

 

i don't believe in a higher power but i've friends who do, as soon as they can convince me that there is a god then i'll believe, but whilst i can still pick holes in an argument then i will not believe it to be true, this counts for lots of things, not just religion

[Cookie]

AS said i think it's a case of whatever gives you stength, I am not religious, but i do believe there is something else, but have no idea what yet

 

I admire the people who are really religious in the fact that they do so wholeheartidly believe, and to have that to fall back on in bad times, death, illness etc must be an amazing comfort.

 

But, me, no but yes, tbh, totally un-decided is prob best way i can explain it, i would never ever turn into a compulsive church go'er, but i would like to believe there is something to it

[DeuceCoupe]

i believe in ghosts though

[antz]

i believe in ghosts though

 

ghosts i do believe in!

 

that family in america are retards. i pity them more than anything cos they are blinded by stupidity

[GT_Jim]

there are two things i dont understand;

 

1 - god fearing people - why do they fear him if he is as nice as they make out?

 

2 - in the bible (apparently) god did some people in as they were worshiping a false idol, so whats the cross then???

 

 

also if money is the route of all evil how come they ask for handouts at church?

[Slik 50]

also if money is the route of all evil how come they ask for handouts at church?

 

Quality

 

Most hated family W*nkers I watched it

 

check this out (just give it 30 seconds)

 

[4parajon]

Thats the one, dont know whether that you tube clip shows you or not but at some point through the film when there picketing somewhere a car drives past and the passenger throws out a big fook off milkshake and it hits one of the kids on the head, poor little fooker is only about 10 and it obviously hurt and he's crying, thing is he wont know any different because his family have brainwashed him with there stupid beliefs.

[Slik 50]

I have just been talkking about the same incident with me work mate

It is fookin horrible to see a kid get abused like that as I feel that is what that sort of extremeism comes down to.

But a think a little later in the progam that loue asks one of the kids who was holding a "God hates fags" placard ( I tink the kis was about 5) what he thought a fag was and the kid didnt fully understand. It was a real shame that the children were subjeted to that sort of enviroment

[Daggle]

Getting back to the topic, I believe that there is something else after this life, I live my life to what I believe are christian values, ie: I treat other people as I would want to be treated myself. I would not call myself a deeply religous person, I don't go to church or pray or anything like that, however I do believe in a god.

Now I might get shot down in flames for that statement, but I don't care what other people think about my values and how I live my life, so long as i am happy in my mind that I am doing the right thing then I feel ok about it.

For me, believing in an afterlife and a heaven helps me with living my life and dealing with my job, I have to say to myself that the people who died in a horrific accident, are now at peace.

Its difficult actually to put into words how I feel, but its something along those lines, if you don't agree with what I say, it's fine. That's the thing that I believe is missing from this country and other countries now, the ability of other people to accept another persons feeling and beliefs, just seems like everyone wants to kill each other just cause they don't accept what someone has said , get over it, get on with living life......

[Chris!]

iv been brought up to believe in god, and so i do!

looks like im the only one lol

i dont go to church very often or anythin but yeah

[john_3.0s]

As an ex-soldier every trouble spot Ive ever been sent too you could trace back to starting because of peoples different religious beliefs with the exception of Columbia, that was a drugs issue.

 

My own opinion is "whatever gets you through the day", I dont subscribe to any beliefs myself but if it helps you personally, then go with it.

 

Off topic slightly, did anyone see that Theroux guy on TV a couple of weeks ago with "The most hated family in America"????

If you did'nt they were as the title really they had IMO interpreted the bible to reflect there hate on 99.9% of the population, they would quite openly walk around with placards saying "death to all gays" amonst other things. The one that angered me more than any other though was that they would "picket" the funeral of a serviceman with placards saying he deserved to die and death to all soldiers etc, you would see the bereaved family of widow, children, mothers and fathers in tears and these people were outside the church giving it loads, made my blood boil.

 

saw that myself mate, it made me furious. I have never been in the forces but work very closely with them and see the commitment and risk the guys are taking day in day out. To me, any man/women prepared to fight for his country deserves an honourable funeral, especially if lost on ops. Just dont get me started on the national service debate....

[Kieran]

im not cos i think its a load of bollox.

 

[Slik 50]

One thing that I find fustrating is the way people use the church for their own gains. If you are religious fine. I, 100% appriciate that and I do think its good that you get comfort from it in times of need, Like Daggle mentioned, It helps him deal with his job. I realy dont think I could deal with death on a day to day basis.

But it angers me to see people who use the church when they do not belive in it. When my dad decided to re-marry. My step mum wanted a church wedding. but neither go to church, so they went and had a look at church's they thought would make a nice back drop in the picture's. They found one, went to church twice then got married there. They never went back to that church untill my sister was born. Then shortley after she was born they took her to chuch a few times just so they could have her christened. Since the christening they have been back to the church a couple times in a little over 11 years.

I realy cant understand why people (and I know there will be quite a lot on hear) have there children cristened or baptised or whatever into a religion that they do not belive in.

My best freind asked me to be a god father to his little girl. He didnt speak to me for nearly 3 years because I said no. We didnt even get told when or where she she was getting christened I know for sure that she has never been back to church in 7 years.

We have always said that if Our two boys want to go into a religion then thats fine and when they make that choice, it will be their chioce, we will be behind thenm as much as they want. But I could never place my children into a religion that I dont belive in.

[DeuceCoupe]

i wasnt married in a church and my children havent been christened

[4parajon]

I live my life to what I believe are christian values, ie: I treat other people as I would want to be treated myself.

 

I would'nt necessarily call them "christian values" though mate, just common decency and respect.

[john_3.0s]

I live my life to what I believe are christian values, ie: I treat other people as I would want to be treated myself.

 

I would'nt necessarily call them "christian values" though mate, just common decency and respect.

 

damn right

[antz]

i thought of this today...

 

lets face it the youth of day are pretty fookd up...maybe its becuase of this..well partly becazuse of this..

 

in R.E we are taught that god created the world and did it in 7 days and he created adam etc etc etc....BUT....in science we are taught about evolution adn that we decended from apes.

 

which are they supposed to belive?

 

also i think evolution is bollox. if we came from apes..how come we still have apes?

[Vista]

i thought of this today...

 

lets face it the youth of day are pretty fookd up...maybe its becuase of this..well partly becazuse of this..

 

in R.E we are taught that god created the world and did it in 7 days and he created adam etc etc etc....BUT....in science we are taught about evolution adn that we decended from apes.

 

which are they supposed to belive?

 

also i think evolution is bollox. if we came from apes..how come we still have apes?

 

Ah the evolutionist versus the creationist (there was a highly amusing episode of the Simpsons about this)

 

There's also the argument that there are no fossil records to indicate the link between the Ape and man, hence the term the missing link?

 

But on the other hand if God created all life, how come the dinosaurs don't get a mention in the good book, they had the planet to themselves for millions of years after all, whereas we've only been here a few thousand.

[antz]

exactly...its all contradicting!!!

[Slik 50]

also i think evolution is bollox. if we came from apes..how come we still have apes?

 

I have said the same muself mate. Why dont we have any mape's. You know half men half apes?

 

Evolution I also feel is sh*te

[Vista]

also i think evolution is bollox. if we came from apes..how come we still have apes?

 

But evolution is still happening. Go back 300 years, and mans life expectancy was some 20 or 30 years less than it is now, plus we were on average significantly shorter. Evolution is change, and we are in fact changing

[antz]

i see your point vista but if we evolved from apes why do we still have apes here?

 

whales could supposedly once walk on land but they 'evolved'..so how coem we dont have land whales? cos they evolved yet we 'evolved' but still have the primitive form.

 

its all shite

[Vista]

We evolved from the apes of a millenia ago, and todays apes evolved from their own forefathers who were a more primitive mammal?

 

Does that work for you?

 

Or there's the theory that only the strongest and brightest specimens of a species go on to change. The reason for this is that they attract each other hence their offspring improve slightly with each generation. Meanwhile the lesser members of the original species stay as they are, primitive and dumb (by comparison)