JAY PS Posted March 3, 2008 Report Posted March 3, 2008 Ebay are now asking its members to declare whether you are a business or private ( al bit like autotrader) so they can declare all to the tax man ! So all those at home selling new stuff will be caught up with ! My car trader mate has already had a visit as he was selling four cars a week on ebay and the tax man wants six years worth of back tax including all the parts he sold . I think this may kill ebay eventually or will it make it a better trading place ?
over_head_cam Posted March 3, 2008 Report Posted March 3, 2008 They will only end up cutting their own lifeline off IMHO
ZetecVan 2.0 Posted March 3, 2008 Report Posted March 3, 2008 They're also stopping sellers from giving buyers negative feedback. Because buyers always pay up and never mess you around do they?
Duke3s Posted March 3, 2008 Report Posted March 3, 2008 Well thats a pain in the arse - cant leave bad feeback if someone mess' you about? Somebody else will just start one up - hopefully they will take less of a % of your money too
andy a Posted March 3, 2008 Report Posted March 3, 2008 Ebay dont and have never cared about the sellers, they continually increase their cut whilst siding with the buyer in any dispute that arises. Their recent move to Luxemberg resulted in a VAT cut of 2.5% for them but they kept the fee's as they were when they had to pass on 17.5% to the British VAT man.
zetecmk2 Posted March 3, 2008 Report Posted March 3, 2008 www.ebid.co.uk ive got an ebid account but nothing sells as theres not enough people yet! list on both with right to end early as advertised elsewhere, ebay allways has highest bids!!! monoply or what???
Lotus-Eater Posted March 4, 2008 Report Posted March 4, 2008 Fashionable though it is at the moment to slag off ebay - would any of you really like to go back to the old days and ways getting parts for our cars? For those members too young to remember what that involved.... Going to autojumbles and hoping that the part you wanted might be there - and they are only on during the summer, mostly you want the parts in the winter when youre working on the car. Ads in the back of related mags - the stuff is 90% of the time sold long before the issue hits the printers. Ebay means that you can buy or sell ANY part from or to ANY where in the world at the touch of a button without leaving your chair at ANY time of day or night and have it delivered to your door. I, for one think thats worth paying for - youd have to pay for a lot of petrol driving around to all those autojumbles. Nor can I think of any other way as a seller that you can advertise an item to a worldwide audience of potentially millions for such a low price (or any price come to that!) Sure ebay charge fees - they are a business after all - and probably not perfect, but who is? Im happy paying the fees as I more than make up for it by selling loads of stuff (car and non car related) that I either wouldnt be able to sell anywhere else or it would cost me a lot more to do so. And sure there are rip-off artists operating on ebay - they are everywhere where there is money involved. You just have to keep your wits about you as in all other dealings with people. Ive been playing with old cars (not just Fords) for 30 years and WOULD NOT want to go back to the pre-ebay days of sometimes waiting for months, or even years for a paricular part to turn up! As for the old chestnut "Ebay has driven up prices" its not ebay that has driven them up - its the old case of supply and demand. People will bid what they want to pay, no one is forcing them! This is an expensive hobby and sometimes we just dont have enough money to spare for a part we really want - but because someone else does that doesnt make it ebays fault. Lets keep a perspective guys! Rant over!
oldbus Posted March 4, 2008 Report Posted March 4, 2008 Fashionable though it is at the moment to slag off ebay - would any of you really like to go back to the old days and ways getting parts for our cars? For those members too young to remember what that involved....Going to autojumbles and hoping that the part you wanted might be there - and they are only on during the summer, mostly you want the parts in the winter when youre working on the car. Ads in the back of related mags - the stuff is 90% of the time sold long before the issue hits the printers. Ebay means that you can buy or sell ANY part from or to ANY where in the world at the touch of a button without leaving your chair at ANY time of day or night and have it delivered to your door. I, for one think thats worth paying for - youd have to pay for a lot of petrol driving around to all those autojumbles. Nor can I think of any other way as a seller that you can advertise an item to a worldwide audience of potentially millions for such a low price (or any price come to that!) Sure ebay charge fees - they are a business after all - and probably not perfect, but who is? Im happy paying the fees as I more than make up for it by selling loads of stuff (car and non car related) that I either wouldnt be able to sell anywhere else or it would cost me a lot more to do so. And sure there are rip-off artists operating on ebay - they are everywhere where there is money involved. You just have to keep your wits about you as in all other dealings with people. Ive been playing with old cars (not just Fords) for 30 years and WOULD NOT want to go back to the pre-ebay days of sometimes waiting for months, or even years for a paricular part to turn up! Lets keep a perspective guys! Rant over! Have to agree with you there. I´d forgoten how bad that was until reading your post. I´ll never forget i needed a wing for my 1975 Audi 100 Coupe S backin hte eighties. It took me nearly a year to get one, drove hundreds of miles, spent god knows how much on petrol not to think about how much time i wasted going to car boot sales when i should have been in the garage.... Can´t see eBay being replaced to be honest, it´s just too big for that!
Rick Posted March 4, 2008 Report Posted March 4, 2008 i wouldnt mind paying the fees IF non paying bidders and scammers were removed more efficiently. i recently got banned for not paying my fees and i dont intend to as most of them are a result of non payers, as for tax man getting involved now that seems a bit harsh for most of us.... as its really just an online carboot sale... id hardly call it an auction in second hand junk
john_3.0s Posted March 4, 2008 Report Posted March 4, 2008 the accessability of ebay is great id have to agree but it has driven up prices as the market has opened up and lets be honest with any second hand market of limitied quantity it is a sellers market afterall. Id also agree regarding the old days before ebay of having to scour the autojumbles for bits and drive half way across the country to collect some parts that sometimes werent exactly what was advertised anyway - or even more anoyingly had already been sold (before mobile phones too!). To be honest though if your selling 4 cars a week then you are trading and should pay tax as well as insurance etc like any other trader. what the tax is spent on is another matter of course....
Lotus-Eater Posted March 4, 2008 Report Posted March 4, 2008 Yes I agree the scammers and non-payers etc. can mess things up but to be honest it would be a tall order for ebay to effectively police the site with the millions of users - but yes they could and should do better. As regards the tax issue, its my understanding the changes have been brought about by European legislation designed to curb money laundering - ebay is the perfect enviroment for this. However the regular "car-booters" like most of us wont be affected, thats why they are asking members status. As for business users, theyve enjoyed the tax-free loophole for a few years now, so now they may have to pay tax like everyone else does in every other business!
slappy Posted March 4, 2008 Report Posted March 4, 2008 If it wasn't for e bay I would not have Three cars and I would not be able to fund them being a family guy, Selling items on e bay has paid for parts mot's insurance fuel ect, I don't sell loads just a few items now and then, if prices increased to much it would kill it for me and I would call it a day sell all my cars and by a focus, or even worse a german car.
Univex Posted March 4, 2008 Report Posted March 4, 2008 Someone I know who works for my local tax office has mentioned to me in the past the HM revenue has a dedicated team set up tracking down people who earn a salary from ebay trading.
mk2griff Posted March 4, 2008 Report Posted March 4, 2008 NO one likes all the messers on ebay (buyers or sellers)but where else can you sit in front of your tv and source all the parts for your oldskoolford.it does piss me off that the tax man has to stick his big nose in trying to screw a few extra quid out of genuine people.when the low life get away with paying nothing all there life.yes ebay are charging to much but like has been said do you want to go back to driving up and the country trying to find what you can on ebay a the click of a button.
andy a Posted March 4, 2008 Report Posted March 4, 2008 .it does piss me off that the tax man has to stick his big nose in trying to screw a few extra quid out of genuine people. If they were genuine they wouldn't have to stick their noses in because they would all be declaring their income from Ebay
mk2griff Posted March 4, 2008 Report Posted March 4, 2008 YES some are useing ebay as a second income so what.its the dodgers and scammers that need stopping.there are genuine people out there just trying to get by.not everyone will have the same opion as me but their you go.yes there is room for improvment on ebay but im not sure the tax man is going to help.
Mr.Sumo Posted March 4, 2008 Report Posted March 4, 2008 yes there is room for improvment on ebay but im not sure the tax man is going to help. Amen that mate . Fair sellers fees / % would be a good start . Why should you not be allowed to leave neg feedback....i"ve had it left for me ...even when the buyer has had the item , just because it didn"t turn up when they wanted it
andy a Posted March 4, 2008 Report Posted March 4, 2008 YES some are useing ebay as a second income so what.its the dodgers and scammers that need stopping.there are genuine people out there just trying to get by.not everyone will have the same opion as me but their you go.yes there is room for improvment on ebay but im not sure the tax man is going to help. I used to do quite a bit on ebay, which was all declared to the taxman as are my other business accounts, what annoys me is people running what is clearly a part time business without the overheads that a proper business has or the legislation to contend with, why should I have to provide accounts and be taxed on my earnings, be liable under the trades discription act as well as have product liability insurance, have to have licences to operate and comply with council and environment agency guidelines when others plainly dont bother, seeing it as a bit of beer money for the weekend, legitimate businesses cant compete with people trading in this way, its like people who are employed and moan about foreigners coming into the country doing the job for less, they havent got the overheads so the British workforce suffers as wages are driven down.
X-pack-Glyn Posted March 4, 2008 Report Posted March 4, 2008 I hope ebay falls....badly, its done nothing but kill the old ford scene and many other things.... then we can go back to finding old mk1s in garages that hevent seen daylight in years and get them for somewhere near sensible money....
mk2griff Posted March 4, 2008 Report Posted March 4, 2008 Ido understand what your saying andy but i would not like independant sellers to stop selling because the taxman could demand money for second income.if that happens all that would be left is scrapyards selling then asking 17.5% vat like they do.as i said ebay has room for improvement to make it fair for everyone this is a verygood way of buying those parts that we all need to keep these old fords on the road.hopfully ebay will take note and do something about it.
X-pack-Glyn Posted March 4, 2008 Report Posted March 4, 2008 hopefully ebay will dissapear and soon be forgotton so we can get back to paying NORMAL prices for parts we are prepared to get off our arse and go and look for.
caprinerd Posted March 5, 2008 Report Posted March 5, 2008 ive just sold a pair of heas lights for a pre face lift mk1 capri ,on ebay the person bid with 4 seconds to go and still aint payed ,5 days now ive emailed them and aint got any reply from that either......oh how im laughing
caprinerd Posted March 5, 2008 Report Posted March 5, 2008 ive just sold a pair of heas lights for a pre face lift mk1 capri ,on ebay the person bid with 4 seconds to go and still aint payed ,5 days now ive emailed them and aint got any reply from that either......oh how im laughing
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