Pinto or Zetec

[J_mk1]

whats the cost of the parts to fit a zetek in a mk1 escort

to put a pinto in is pritty straight forward and cheap

 

mate its not as mega expensive as you might think, sump is 250, mounts 70, flywheel machined for pinto clutch 70, water pump 40, water manifold 150. thats about it i think. worth it in my opinion as i wanted a fat twin-cam 16valver in my 'bay

[lee 1]

But it would be the same if not more for a zetec,16 big valves to buy,16 ports to open up,two cams,two pulleys got to cost more.

I am not saying that a zetec cannot be tuned and get better results than a pinto just that it will cost more than a pinto and can a zetec go to 2.1 never seen one and just wondering with the alloy block can it be rebored enough for 2.1 or would you need liners and more cost?

[J_mk1]

Yes i agree it will cost a bit more, but you get more power so swings and roundabouts to be honest mate.

 

zetecs are iron blocks and alloy heads bud

[lee 1]

Yes i agree it will cost a bit more, but you get more power so swings and roundabouts to be honest mate.

 

zetecs are iron blocks and alloy heads bud

 

Allways assumed they were alloy hence the usuall zetecs are loads lighter than a pinto post.

Still not convinced that £ for £ you would get any more from a zetec than a pinto but each to there own.I do agree about wanting a nice fat 16v under the bonnet though but personally it would have to be a N/A cossie or a duratec neither of which are cheap

[kirk10]

im confused on what to do and what to go for lol

[J_mk1]

i say zetec lee says pinto

[jed]

XE...

[erick]

Yes the zetec conversion is expensive to start but once its up and running it becomes very cost affective, if the engine goes bang you only look on ebay or the local scrap yard to source the next engine replacement and not be faced with a expensive rebuild the old pinto has had its reign

 

[kirk10]

thats nice

[mk1super]

 

 

That does look good

 

Its fitting an getting up an running that concerns me as pinto seems so easy

 

Also engine management what do you run? as its said slap on 45s an your away is it really that simple?

[kirk10]

are all the parts off the shelf now adays ?

can you give us a quike run down on parts needed and cost please

[erick]

Yes the Pinto is a lot cheaper to install but you will need to spend lots of cash on tuning to achieve a powerfull engine, weight of the pinto is high spoils the turn in looks ugly unreliable and a std Zetec on throttle bodies will out perform most pintos with the wind behind them.

[erick]

are all the parts off the shelf now adays ?

can you give us a quike run down on parts needed and cost please

 

Give me some time and I will sort out some costs of the install.

[evil knievel]

XE...

 

[kirk10]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ford-zetec-engine ... 286.c0.m14

[caprinerd]

ok wiegh up the cost if you drop a ztec in and buy the parts you need to do the job = x

buy a pinto and spend the X amount to tune it would you have the power of the ztec

if you are talking about fitting a cossy after a while then really just use a pinto as the cossy is basicaly a modded pinto so everything should be there ready to drop in

[erick]

Cheep zetec engine

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-2-0-ZETEC-EN ... 0313438039

 

Jenvey throttle bodies with a Ford Zetec manifold

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jenvey-Throttle-B ... 0306161486

 

Check out Race Lines website, they sell everything you need for the conversion

 

http://www.raceline.co.uk/products/inde ... tegoryID=4

 

Zetec is the way forward, you can’t beat the reliability and the performance for the money

[TwoLitrePinto]

But it would be the same if not more for a zetec,16 big valves to buy,16 ports to open up,two cams,two pulleys got to cost more.

I am not saying that a zetec cannot be tuned and get better results than a pinto just that it will cost more than a pinto and can a zetec go to 2.1 never seen one and just wondering with the alloy block can it be rebored enough for 2.1 or would you need liners and more cost?

 

you can go 2.1 with the zetec as my mates done it, not sure if u need liners or what but its a mk3 fezza xr2i, RS lookalike with a 2.1 ZETEC (NOT ZVH) with a T3 bolted to it. cant remember the numbers but it somewhere between 300-400bhp at the moment and on the street.. stupidly fast.

 

i wold probably favor the zetec in terms of potential and although its a bit more expensive its not that expensive... dont get mw wrong i love a pinto as you can probably guess and theyre a very good engine with great potential aswell...

 

oh yeah and whoever said the pinto is unreliable..

[J_mk1]

im a zetec fan, but i dont think pintos are un-relaible if biult/set-up well...

 

all you need to make a zetec fit is a sump and mounts from retro ford, will cost you about 320 notes. to get it running you need the rest of the parts... but they are easy to 'fit'

[jed]

XE...

 

Nice one EK... My mates got a zetec anglia and my xe anglia absolutely destroys it but at the end of the day its all down to preference

[J_mk1]

what setup is yours compared to his?

[qwerty]

I'm having similar thoughts on the Versus at the moment.

 

Pretty much decided on a 2litre Pinto for the meantime. If I end up keeping the Qwertina I would like to fit a Zetec on Bike carbs. Bike carbs would clear up inlet issues and be pretty cheap!

[vibrating_Cake]

am i the only one who's had a zetec and a pinto both similar spec here?

 

the pinto is a brilliant engine, although its something like a 40year old design, although the 205 block is the same as a cosworth block, so should do well with some nice pistons and a bit of BOOST!

but the 8v head is very restrictive, even when loads of money is spent on fully porting it etc.

 

once the zetec is fitted.... you just add.... and add and add....

theres a few zetecs on Alcoholics Anonymous running 220bhp N/A and theres a few thats running near enough 300bhp (although thats supercharged)

 

saying that though, the zetec isnt at its peak, the pinto has been at its peak for years! we all know what you can get from them and we all know they are actually very strong engines and take a lot of shit!

 

but.... the zetec is the same engine as the duratec ST found in fiesta ST's etc etc etc.

 

ive had both on mildish tunes, the pinto pulled like a horse and trailed off a little to the top end, the torque was phenomenal!!!

but the zetec, well, that doesnt feel to pull as much but from 3k it certinally pulls a lot better and brings the speed of the car up a lot more.

 

also, depends what you want to use the car for, you always have the advantage of weight with the zetec over the pinto. and in all honesty they are cheap to replace when you kill one!

 

pintos are from 20year old cars, you cant get "new" ones which havent been ragged at least once or twice in their life, and will probably need a rebuilld before you can get their full potential

zetecs you can get a lot lower milage examples (e.g. pretty much just run in)

 

i gotta say zetecs have a lot more potential at the end of the day

[chrisd]

Zetec it is then anyone want a warm pinto lol

[kirk10]

so what i can make out is the zeteks are flat as fook off the mark and torque --but good in mid revs and top end

 

 

and the pinto is good off the mark and torque but looses it top end

 

which is why the pinto is more favourable

 

or have i got that wrong lol