garyv6100e Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 Look at the green Escort estate in retro ford cleary a MK2 check the inner wings / dash / front wings but running on an F plate ( 68 ) obviously done to get free road tax
Rick Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 the bare shells that are on ebay are just as bad, as there ids are now on another car, and the scrap shell is all is left, 3 of them log books are for top end escort mexico rs2000, each one of them put on a decent car, the car will sell for £5000 and upwards, while people can get away with it they will, if the shell isn't left then neither should the log book. so if you had a mexico logbook that would fetch £300. rather than sell it to a reputable club member, you would phone the dvla and have it killed off sure...
antz Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 the bare shells that are on ebay are just as bad, as there ids are now on another car, and the scrap shell is all is left, 3 of them log books are for top end escort mexico rs2000, each one of them put on a decent car, the car will sell for £5000 and upwards, while people can get away with it they will, if the shell isn't left then neither should the log book. so if you had a mexico logbook that would fetch £300. rather than sell it to a reputable club member, you would phone the dvla and have it killed off sure... i would. weather its worth 40p or £300 its still illegal to sell log books
Rick Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 its illegal to speed mate but everyone on here does it. most the classic cars on the road are probably like triggers broom. you certainly wouldnt scrap a mint mexico shell if you had no logbook for it. youd find a club that can get one and keep the car alive. i know cars shouldnt be without logbooks but it happens putting a logbook up for auction for anyone to get hold of, now thats wrong
NginEEr Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 end of the day there selling a rotting shell. some 1 may be brave enough to restore it
Joe Little Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 nout wrong with it IMHO Totally agree,
mexicostids Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 say u had a mex or rs & had a bad crash or was too rotten to repair what would u rather do scrap it (dont think so! ) re shell it , or sell the log book ? although i dont totally agree with selling log books (espesially on ebay) if it keeps another classic escort on the road cant be all bad . after all it is a bit different to doing it to new stuff, i`m sure if we could buy new shells like the mg &mini boys we would ! as someone else said if u use a lower spec shell usually all the rs strenghening bits get welded on anyway .
Fiesta Steve Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 say u had a mex or rs & had a bad crash or was too rotten to repair what would u rather do scrap it (dont think so! ) re shell it , or sell the log book ? although i dont totally agree with selling log books (espesially on ebay) if it keeps another classic escort on the road cant be all bad . after all it is a bit different to doing it to new stuff, i`m sure if we could buy new shells like the mg &mini boys we would ! as someone else said if u use a lower spec shell usually all the rs strenghening bits get welded on anyway . The problem isn't the rally boys or reshelling so called 'genuine' cars, its the fact that if your Mexico or whatever gets stolen, all the theif needs to sell the car on is some ID, thats your car gone and several grand in their pocket. ..the point is, its made too easy for them. If they weren't available, it wouldn't be so easy.
andy a Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 say u had a mex or rs & had a bad crash or was too rotten to repair what would u rather do scrap it (dont think so! ) re shell it , or sell the log book ? although i dont totally agree with selling log books (espesially on ebay) if it keeps another classic escort on the road cant be all bad . after all it is a bit different to doing it to new stuff, i`m sure if we could buy new shells like the mg &mini boys we would ! as someone else said if u use a lower spec shell usually all the rs strenghening bits get welded on anyway . If you have a car and reshell it then you can keep your original registration mark and logbook legally, its all done on a points system, scores out of 10, bodyshell is 1 point, drivetrain and trim have points allocated to them and you need a certain percentage to keep the original status of the car. The only reason want to give their car a new id unless its stolen is because their after trying to up its value, either by making it tax exempt or by making it out to be something its not, swapping an id onto another shell, wether both brought legally or not is ringing and should be stopped. I used to break old Fords (only rotten ones ) for a living and have never sold a logbook and tags on, its all ok until some thieving git decides to buy one and give your car a new id to punt on to some poor fecker, then it ceases to be funny.
JAY PS Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 say u had a mex or rs & had a bad crash or was too rotten to repair what would u rather do scrap it (dont think so! ) re shell it , or sell the log book ? although i dont totally agree with selling log books (espesially on ebay) if it keeps another classic escort on the road cant be all bad . after all it is a bit different to doing it to new stuff, i`m sure if we could buy new shells like the mg &mini boys we would ! as someone else said if u use a lower spec shell usually all the rs strenghening bits get welded on anyway . If you have a car and reshell it then you can keep your original registration mark and logbook legally, its all done on a points system, scores out of 10, bodyshell is 1 point, drivetrain and trim have points allocated to them and you need a certain percentage to keep the original status of the car. The only reason want to give their car a new id unless its stolen is because their after trying to up its value, either by making it tax exempt or by making it out to be something its not, swapping an id onto another shell, wether both brought legally or not is ringing and should be stopped. I used to break old Fords (only rotten ones ) for a living and have never sold a logbook and tags on, its all ok until some thieving git decides to buy one and give your car a new id to punt on to some poor fecker, then it ceases to be funny. Well said ,if the shell you are buying doesnt have an id ,Why doesnt it ! Its Either stolen or it isnt what it says it is ! These guys arent selling the shells (bet you wont even see one !),they are selling log looks ,they are scaming hard earned money from you and me to fund more crime .
Rick Posted November 12, 2008 Report Posted November 12, 2008 ok try this scenario: you come across a barn find, its an rs2000/mex needs a tad of work the strut tops gone so no ID and the owner half stripped it and lost the tags and plates many moons ago. its yours for a couple hundred quid and be realistic now. you WOULD buy it all your missing now is the ID to match i reckon 90% of people on here saying no i dont agree, would go ahead and do it in this situation.
Guest cortinamad-gonetoo Posted November 12, 2008 Report Posted November 12, 2008 people who sell log books are knobs end of so you dont agree well you would do once your pride of joy got nicked never to be found these people selling log books are giving the oppertunity for stolen cars like my mk2 escort to be reused with a new identity King knobs and it is illeagal too so they should get done for it
bortaf Posted November 12, 2008 Report Posted November 12, 2008 Having a recovery truck i get to see all sorts, over the years i've picked up a few real nice old cars that have lost thier ID, through stripping bits and loosing them or the owner dieing and the paperwork gets lost ect or sent of by unknowing spouses ect. It does happen genuinly, there's a mexico in a garage with no ID i know of, that's NOT stolen btu the old owner died and the wife sent the paperwork off then disoverd the husband had been secretly storing the car in a rented garage she only found out when his secret bank account ran out of money to pay the garage bill. What did the new owner do? be bought another ID, one saved mexico Due to the fact that using a second hand shell to reshell a car means that you can "NOT" keep the origional reg (only with a new shell is that leagaly possable) ringing can be illeagal without being bad. The trouble with ebay is it gives the wronge people access to the ID and it should be kept in the club scene (as it still is by people with sense).
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