Merry F**king Xmas Love from Honda

[petrolhead]

My sensible car is a 2003 Honda Accord Diesel. It refused to start, stumped me, stumped mobile mechanic and no other garage will touch it apart from a diesel specialist in Wimbledon and Honda.

 

So I bite the bullet get it in to Honda, turns out to be a faulty fuel pump.

 

The good news is labour is only £160

The really shitty news is the high pressure fuel pump is £1610

 

Thats messed up my xmas cheer

[mk1mexico]

Fook me, get the car back and get ringing round the breakers

 

Nearly swapped my impreza for a 54 plate one of these earlier in the year.

[accord83]

Go to these guys and see if they can help, new home for the Accord forum

 

http://thaoc.ipbfree.com/index.php?act=idx

 

They also have an 'In' with a couple of Honda dealers.

Glad i'm on an old school carb.

[w p e]

got quoted that for a merc vito h/p pump. got a exchange one from euro car parts for £190. might be worth a try

[petrolhead]

thank you very much guys, I'll follow those leads up

[Jimbob-Squarepants ©]

If you're near Wimbledon and you can get the pump off, try a firm called Watson Diesel. They are located in an industrial estate off elm grove. A mate has just told me about it as he delivers around that area. He says they are very good, and that is all they specialize in, so they maybe able to recondition it for you

[ratman]

Also in wimbledon is 5 star they break jap cars

Weir rd ind est wimbledon SW19

 

0208 605 9270

 

worth a try

[FredTransit]

Also try CJ Diesel in isleworth 020 8560 2297

[petrolhead]

cheers fellas, I am quite shocked at the prices of these things at the scrapyards. They must know how much Honda sell them for. I got ten scrappy prices ranging from £300-550.

 

BUT today I phoned Watsons and they are a proper old skool salt of the earth British Engineering firm. They had one for £425 reconed with 12months warranty. They just laughed at the Honda price, its a Bosch part that costs £900 new. SO Honda make a £700 mark up.

 

Luckily, Honda only charged me 30mins labour for diagnosing fault (@£103 per hour!)

 

Thanks for all your support, have a good Xmas

[Tom]

If you're near Wimbledon and you can get the pump off, try a firm called Watson Diesel. They are located in an industrial estate off elm grove. A mate has just told me about it as he delivers around that area. He says they are very good, and that is all they specialize in, so they maybe able to recondition it for you

 

i was just about to say that!

 

Gutted for you mate, they're about the same price on beemers too.

 

Gimme a shout if you get one and need a hand fitting it

[Trevmk3]

unbelievable price though, its like where i work we will make a part and charge the customer £4500 for it and it probably only costs £500 - £750 to make

[timmy4doors]

mate thats shite i work for honda there prices are silly dont ever put petrol in it it had a civic diesel in and that cost them 3800 quid ooppss just a question but what makes them so sure about the fuel pump? weve had one where it was the diesel filter i could be wrong but it would be cheaper to try, and if its deffo the pump dont bother paying them to fit it, its not hard to replace give us a shout if u need a hand

[petrolhead]

Thanks Tom and timmy. They said Fuel was getting to the fuel pump but none was coming out or the output pressure was low. I did drain the Fuel filter as I heard they sometimes collect water(?)

 

I'll give one (or both) of you a shout but it 'looks' like a fairly bolt on job. I haven't got any woorkshop manuals but it seems as though it bolts on to the end of the car and just has an assortment of plumbing and one sensor to connect up.

[escortmad79]

£1770 all in?

 

My first 3 cars (Mk2 1300 Ghia 4dr, Mk1 1300L 2dr & Mexico replica 2dr) cost little over that combined in 1999/2000!!!

[SLYMAN]

Don't let it get you down Mr, Just be thankful its only one of the pumps that is fubar!!

 

Jap stuff is great when it works, but when it fails! chu ching!!

[Tom]

Thanks Tom and timmy. They said Fuel was getting to the fuel pump but none was coming out or the output pressure was low. I did drain the Fuel filter as I heard they sometimes collect water(?)

 

I'll give one (or both) of you a shout but it 'looks' like a fairly bolt on job. I haven't got any woorkshop manuals but it seems as though it bolts on to the end of the car and just has an assortment of plumbing and one sensor to connect up.

 

Mate what runs the pump? cambelt? chain? be sure you dont need special tools cos things can go really wrong otherwise

[petrolhead]

well I replaced the fuel pump, even when not knowing where it was, taking my time and photos it took me 55mins.

 

BUT it still didn't work, I traced a fault with No4 injector. Had a little cry when I found out they were £250 plus VAT EACH from Honda and then had a mare getting the slot in injector to slot out- it was siezed solid.

 

the injector defied all screwdrivers, molegrips and indeed swearing. Tom recommended Full Fat Coke ("trust me" he said) so I soaked it in that overnight, still no joy - absolutely stuck. So I soaked it in in silicon spray, had a think and I then had a brainwave(yee haw).

 

I connected everything back up and managed to start up the engine to let it warm up. I then switched everything off, underdid the injector retaining bolt, put a towel over the injector and started up the engine again. The engine compression did the rest and popped it out. I'm sure this isn't in the Honda Workshop manual (too cowboy) but it worked for me!

 

I took it to Watsons Diesel in Wimbledon today at 1pm. They tested it on the spot (seals had gone) and rebuilt and recalibrated it to as new condition by 3pm the same afternoon. 5mins to refit an ta-dah all fixed with no engine management light! They are currently testing the old fuel pump as I suspect that was OK all along.

 

SO Honda price £2300, my DIY price with warrantied parts £560. Result!!!

 

I can not recommend Watsons Diesel enough, true british engineering at its best and amazing service.

 

PLUS MASSIVE THANKS TO TOM AND TIMMY FOR THEIR HELP AND ADVICE

[over_head_cam]

Good result m8. Ingenuity and old fashioned spanner work

[Tom]

. . . and jump leads and mole grips

[over_head_cam]

. . . and jump leads and mole grips

 

Don't leave home without them (and WD40 )

[petrolhead]

I forgot about the jump leads thanks for that too! The Honda has truly f*cked my Escort battery so a new one is on the way. Mind you the battery was older than the Accord so it served its time.

 

So far in the Escort vs Accord jump start league the Escort wins 5-6!

 

I told the old boy at Watsons about my unconventional method of removing the stuck injector. He just nodded wisely and said they could be a right sod to remove and then told me about his Uncle who once did the same - all four injectors shot out and landed on the roof of his house, we both p1ssed ourselves laughing!

[jpayne]

Had a similar story with a aussie falcon. Was told the gearbox had stuffed itself and the only repair was a replacement as it was that far gone. new gearbox was worth twice what the car was. didnt have the money so had it towed and was going to put a manual gearbox in it from an older model (much cheaper). was speaking to a friend who suggested looking at one of the gearbox ecu plugs, sure enough, as suggested there was a small amount of corrosion on one of the pins. pulled it apart, gave it a clean up and a lube, bolted it all back together and hey presto good as new. money grabbing pricks! and a reputable ford dealer too. lost all business from me! Thank god im not a grandma!

 

For what its worth. anb well done to the home mechanic who never says die

 

cheers

 

JP