Has the "Cossie" had its day?

[sambo]

This thread has gone off topic. The question was basically whether it is cheaper to run a Zetec over a cossie.

 

I think we have determined that for pound for HP, the cossie wins hands down.

 

Yes, zetecs are cheap but to get the same HP from one (220) would cost a fortune therefore if you kill your 220 hp zetec, it isnt a case of just replacing it with a rear ended modeo!

 

 

did you not read retromotorsports post then?

 

and as far as i can tell "we" havent determined anythin when it comes to runnin costs, only seems to be you with the cossie blinkers on over price

 

oh and this thread wasnt to see if it was cheaper, i just wanted other peoples opinions on the cossie being at the end of its prime

 

In your original post, the wohole thing was about cost!!!!!!!!

 

Its not a case of having blinkers on! I looked into powerplants for my car a while ago and cossie turbo was the cheapest way to get 200+ BHP. FACT.

[Copey]

no, my original post was gettin other peoples opinions on what i was thinkin, cost was only one aspect

 

and if the cossie was cheapest for you then thats great, i am not lookin to argue over it, its just a descussion and me rollin ideas arround in my head

[sambo]

Yes but after a lot of research, the YB was the best option by a mile. Therefore, the Cosworth has not had its day, technology wise and cost wise!

 

I thought this was a discussion! I was not arguing!

[Copey]

fair enough mate

 

just wanted other peoples opinions and points of view on the subject

[Skimmer]

Its gotta be a Cossie especially in a Ford , even the insurance bloke i insured the van with said it was the "Holy Grail" engine for the Escort van.....

[Johnson]

i see your point but , theres loads of cossie's out there running 9's and under , plus i think they are over rated , a friend of mine has a 190 bhp zetec in a mk1 fiesta and i have a 160bhp xflow in mine and we both run identical times of 13.27.

 

KP's?? Thats Zetec is a BIG money build from what I understand, steel everything etc..

 

So more 'bucks' but only the same 'bang' as a Crossflow.

 

it was more down to the fact he had stupidly long gear ratios. i really wanted him to try a closer ratio box, would have busted the 12's then

[Johnson]

dont worry si il show you how its done with zetec on stock internals

[harris horse power]

dont worry si il show you how its done with zetec on stock internals

 

now thats just silly you cant compare an old n/a 8v xflow againts a 16v supercharged beast , when you hoping to have it finished?

[Johnson]

hopefully in time for the 2010 shows will see tho as i have a 'to do' list as long as my arm. off topic, congrats on the feature mate, shame mart spoiled the pics lol

[harris horse power]

hopefully in time for the 2010 shows will see tho as i have a 'to do' list as long as my arm. off topic, congrats on the feature mate, shame mart spoiled the pics lol

 

oh right well hurry up , i cant wait to see that go , that will be in the 12's no problem

[brettp]

if your after 220 hp power cheap you could get a standard small block chevy and pull a ht lead of pmsl

[petrolhead]

I think that the Cosworth has got a long while to go yet and will probably be up and running even after petrol has run out (biofuel).

 

The installation costs of zetecs is the biggest drawback. You may as well put a better performing Duratec or XE in or spend that £2K on tuning a Pinto which would have more torque or Crossflow which wouldn't be far off.

 

If you want to go Turbo the Cosworth is proven, has staggering potential and is almost universally regarded as 'right' for Old Fords even though it is more modern then Old Skool imo.

[mk2dk]

Cosworth all the way for me -

1. Looks so right in the enginebay of an osf

2. sounds good either turbo or n/a.

3. Deliver lots of power.

4. Cosworth has a fine reputation from all sorts of motorsport.

[PIG]

cosworth power lol

[steve dray]

YB's will be around forever, no question. With people now reproducing engine blocks and heads they will never end. But things move on, Cosworth chose the Duratec to wave their magic wand over and look how much they are talked about, and rightly so getting figures like 300 bhp out of a N/A engine! I'm sure if Cosworth had 'breathed' on the Zetec, they would be more of a respected choice of power. As said already, it's a matter of personal choice. For me the zetec is too 'New skool ' but the Duratec seems to 'fit in' with the old skool, simply because of the link with Cosworth! Strange but true.

[Mr Sam]

YAY was wondering where you'd got to the other day, hope all is well

[RETRO_AL]

Im going to be fitting a zetec in mine ive done the yb/ xflow/pintos,going to try something differant,theres a guy on ts with a silvertop zetec with a tuned st170 head, differant cams ect, he posted a dyno print for 260bhp

Theres not many n/a ybs with that power

[Sir-Cato]

You can fit a std cossie on a car for about 3.5K. Thats 220bhp fitted. Steel internals, proven tuning mods to come later. On a factory ECU.

 

£3500 for 220bhp?

 

230-240bhp is possible for £1500

 

320ish bhp is possible for around £3000

 

 

You can keep on wasting your money on shite cosworths.

[4DOOR-SHERWOOD]

You can fit a std cossie on a car for about 3.5K. Thats 220bhp fitted. Steel internals, proven tuning mods to come later. On a factory ECU.

 

£3500 for 220bhp?

 

230-240bhp is possible for £1500

 

320ish bhp is possible for around £3000

 

 

You can keep on wasting your money on shite cosworths.

 

PMSL!!!...have you ever been in a car with a YB in?...think not!

[sambo]

You can fit a std cossie on a car for about 3.5K. Thats 220bhp fitted. Steel internals, proven tuning mods to come later. On a factory ECU.

 

£3500 for 220bhp?

 

230-240bhp is possible for £1500

 

320ish bhp is possible for around £3000

 

 

You can keep on wasting your money on shite cosworths.

 

240BHP for £1500 !! Tell me where, and i'll bloody go and get one!!

 

Surely the cylinder head to achieve the amount of airflow with the cams will be near that mate!?!?!

 

Is that on carbs??? 48's?.... thats £450 second hand then.

Inlet manifold ... £75

Exhaust manifold.... £ 200 +

donor engine.... £200

 

You cant go getting that kind of power without a decent comp ratio.... that'll mean forged pistons....£500.

 

???????

 

If that was doable then everyone would have 240bhp zetecs in thier old ford. I know i would.

 

A friend of mine spent 8K on his race zetec from Dunnell engines. Dry sumped beastie though.

[moredoorAsh]

Only 1 way of sorting it i recon...

 

.....santa pod...

 

RACE !!!!!!!

[sambo]

Only 1 way of sorting it i recon...

 

.....santa pod...

 

RACE !!!!!!!

 

Everyone knows that zetecs get trashed by the pinto's !!!

[moredoorAsh]

Only 1 way of sorting it i recon...

 

.....santa pod...

 

RACE !!!!!!!

 

Everyone knows that zetecs get trashed by the pinto's !!!

[rallyesport04]

You can fit a std cossie on a car for about 3.5K. Thats 220bhp fitted. Steel internals, proven tuning mods to come later. On a factory ECU.

 

£3500 for 220bhp?

 

230-240bhp is possible for £1500

 

320ish bhp is possible for around £3000

 

 

You can keep on wasting your money on shite cosworths.

 

for 3.5k i brought a refreshed yb chiped to 370bhp also got a maram shaft turbo anti lag launch control so stick that up your pipe an smoke it

[harris horse power]

You can fit a std cossie on a car for about 3.5K. Thats 220bhp fitted. Steel internals, proven tuning mods to come later. On a factory ECU.

 

£3500 for 220bhp?

 

230-240bhp is possible for £1500

 

320ish bhp is possible for around £3000

 

 

You can keep on wasting your money on shite cosworths.

 

 

cosworths and shite ? didnt no they went in the same sentence . i think that may now be the sillyiest qoute of 2010