A frame legality

[russ105e]

I know a lot of you guys use them for towing your cars to the Pod etc and was thinking of getting one for myself.Does anyone know how the law stands on these.I've looked on different sites but can't find a definate answer.Knowing my luck i'd get nicked and thrown in the slammer with a 8ft african who likes white ass

[Wessie]

Knowing my luck i'd get nicked and thrown in the slammer with a 8ft african who likes white ass

PMSL

[KJ 1320]

technically it's classed as a unbraked trailor! so the towing capacity is 750kg

and all the same stuff applies i.e: road legal tyres and lights and break away chain

[Fiesta Steve]

technically it's classed as a unbraked trailor! so the towing capacity is 750kg

and all the same stuff applies i.e: road legal tyres and lights and break away chain

 

So that means it doesn't need MOT or tax

[Vista]

thrown in the slammer with a 8ft african who likes white ass

 

Hey white boy, your looking mighty cute in them Jeans white boy!

[KJ 1320]

technically it's classed as a unbraked trailor! so the towing capacity is 750kg

and all the same stuff applies i.e: road legal tyres and lights and break away chain

 

So that means it doesn't need MOT or tax

 

doesn't need either m8

[105Speed]

technically it's classed as a unbraked trailor! so the towing capacity is 750kg

and all the same stuff applies i.e: road legal tyres and lights and break away chain

 

 

Errrrr, how many road cars only weigh 750kg's ?

 

 

The law is actually :-

 

Unbraked Trailers - Max 750kg gross trailer weight OR Half the towing vehicles kerb weight - WHICH EVER IS LESS

 

SO if your tow car is say 1250 kgs then you can only tow a trailer that weighs 625kgs

 

 

I got this from http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/Safe&LegalTowingShort.pdf

 

 

Most of the time its not an issue until you plough into the back of someone like an 8ft fella called Bubba ploughing into Russ and then thats when it all goes berty... because your insurance becomes invalid etc etc etc

[KJ 1320]

technically it's classed as a unbraked trailor! so the towing capacity is 750kg

and all the same stuff applies i.e: road legal tyres and lights and break away chain

 

 

Errrrr, how many road cars only weigh 750kg's ?

 

that's the downfall and i suppose the chance you take

the only way to make it 100% legal is two link the towed cars brakes to work

i'm pretty sure the RAC/AA when they used to use them had a devise that worked on the brake pedal in the car!

[flyingbanana]

i use mine for towing cars and never had a problem

[Fiesta Steve]

technically it's classed as a unbraked trailor! so the towing capacity is 750kg

and all the same stuff applies i.e: road legal tyres and lights and break away chain

 

 

Errrrr, how many road cars only weigh 750kg's ?

 

 

The law is actually :-

 

Unbraked Trailers - Max 750kg gross trailer weight OR Half the towing vehicles kerb weight - WHICH EVER IS LESS

 

SO if your tow car is say 1250 kgs then you can only tow a trailer that weighs 625kgs

 

 

I got this from http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/Safe&LegalTowingShort.pdf

 

 

Most of the time its not an issue until you plough into the back of someone like an 8ft fella called Bubba ploughing into Russ and then thats when it all goes berty... because your insurance becomes invalid etc etc etc

 

 

Can I add ballast to the tow car to get the weight up

[105Speed]

Heres another extract to mull over..... :-

 

The use of "dollies" is intended for the recovery of broken down vehicles, not for the transportation of a vehicle from "A" to "B". Under Regulation 83 of C&U a motor car is permitted to tow two trailers when one of them is a towing implement and the other is secured to and either rests on or is suspended from the implement. Therefore as a trailer if the maximum laden weight of the dolly exceeds 750 kg it must be fitted with operational brakes, additionally the brakes on the wheels of the second trailer (the towed car) must work and meet the specified requirements. Again this would be very difficult for the rear brakes of a motor car, on their own, to meet the 50% braking efficiency required for a trailer. The dolly would also be required by Regulation 22 of C&U to be fitted with suspension. Regulations 19 and 22 in C&U permit a broken down vehicle to be recovered without complying with these requirements. However, there is further legislation under the Road Traffic Act that introduces a limitation on the maximum speed that the combination can be driven; this is 40mph on motorways and 20mph on other roads.

[KJ 1320]

Heres another extract to mull over..... :-

 

The use of "dollies" is intended for the recovery of broken down vehicles, not for the transportation of a vehicle from "A" to "B". Under Regulation 83 of C&U a motor car is permitted to tow two trailers when one of them is a towing implement and the other is secured to and either rests on or is suspended from the implement. Therefore as a trailer if the maximum laden weight of the dolly exceeds 750 kg it must be fitted with operational brakes, additionally the brakes on the wheels of the second trailer (the towed car) must work and meet the specified requirements. Again this would be very difficult for the rear brakes of a motor car, on their own, to meet the 50% braking efficiency required for a trailer. The dolly would also be required by Regulation 22 of C&U to be fitted with suspension. Regulations 19 and 22 in C&U permit a broken down vehicle to be recovered without complying with these requirements. However, there is further legislation under the Road Traffic Act that introduces a limitation on the maximum speed that the combination can be driven; this is 40mph on motorways and 20mph on other roads.

 

oh well there you go!

[Fiesta Steve]

Rules are there to be broken

[Baz.]

fookem, i tow my car with one and its the bollox! ive never been stoped or questioned, and i even asked a coppoer in Stratford where Shakespear Raceway was, and he was lookin at the car on the Aframe saying wot a good idea!

[james p]

we used to use dollys round ere all the time and never problem

[105Speed]

Like I said earlier, it not likely to be a problem until you run up someones arse and the insurance companies get involved and you are left to pick up the bill because they wont honour the claim.

 

Because believe me, some Traffic Coppers may turn a blind eye, or not even be fully up on the law themselves.. but you can bet an Insurance assessor will

 

 

As for rules being their to be broken, try telling that to a family when you've just wiped out their kids because you couldnt stop because the brakes on your car are designed to stop it, not twice, or more that its own weight

[Fiesta Steve]

 

 

As for rules being their to be broken, try telling that to a family when you've just wiped out their kids because you couldnt stop because the brakes on your car are designed to stop it, not twice, or more that its own weight

 

I guess my car to be about 750kg and my tow car to weigh about 1800 kg.

 

I'll take a chance on breaking the rules, like I do everyday when speeding

 

[Mr.Sumo]

I"ve pulled cars all the time on an A frame and never had a problem ....even on the M25 at midnight pulling a mk5 Scort from Greenwich to Heathrow.....however , i did get a b*ll*ckin from a plod for pulling my old Grass track Hot Rod with one

 

So....you take your chances.....

[petrolhead01]

i towed a 944 porsche to loughton from ruislip with a 1.6 chavelier and the guy i delivered it to was a traffic cop and nothing was said!!!!

i think it really depends on what mood there in but i do take on board neils comments and maybe will get a better tow vehicle next time!!!

[Fiesta Steve]

Yes, towing a large car with a small car would be foolish

 

But if they are safe to tow a 'broken down' vehicle then I don't see the problem with towing a car that isn't broken from A to B providing suitable tow cars are used

[105Speed]

Yeah.. but look at the speed limits, 40mph on the motorway and 20mph on all other roads

 

They are there to give you a chance to stop.

 

 

 

Just buy yourselves a decent Brian James and be done with it.

[KJ 1320]

Yeah.. but look at the speed limits, 40mph on the motorway and 20mph on all other roads

 

They are there to give you a chance to stop.

 

 

 

Just buy yourselves a decent Brian James and be done with it.

 

that would be lovely!!

but i for one haven't got the space at my house for a trailer or a nice yard to park it in.

[Wessie]

and if u leave you're OSF on a trailer overnight it'll be alot easier to nick the fookers will just take the whole thing

[bobmk1]

and if u leave you're OSF on a trailer overnight it'll be alot easier to nick the fookers will just take the whole thing

 

ykt

[Guest MK1gaz]

Just drive your car instead trailers and 'a' frames are then not required . Join the R.A.C. recovery and if you brake down or blow up your engine then they trailor you home , piece of piss really