Fancy a 2 Litre X-Flow?

[livewire7116]

all singing and dancing 2ltr xflow will cost you 4 to 5k by time you get all right components together and at end of day its a highly stressed engine for about 200bhp?

 

i spent £3k on my xe and have approx 245bhp on tbs and its got plenty more potential

[Toby]

needs the type of block that "Mr Big" was running in the Classic Ford article a few months back.

need to speak to dave bean in the usa if you want an alloy block; http://www.davebean.com/specials6.htm#TCBlock

 

 

although I think I've heard of brazing liners in which must improve the integrity - anyone heard of it?

yeah, Cosworth had a development engine called the BDF which was based on an Ashcroft siamese block with brazed in steel liners and a 88.9 mm bore - made 275bhp Brian Hart decided he didn't like the idea of brazed in liners and then started casting the alloy block - Ford only became aware of these blocks when Peter Ashcroft visited Brians workshop and tripped over one! This is what became the BDG

 

Good info - thanks

[Toby]

 

He only bought me a coke at the wingspan meet last week, so yes.

 

puddy

 

Not so useful - thanks

[Toby]

How about a Full Race 1999cc All Alloy Xflow with 90.55mm Bore !

 

Check out ebay item no. 290467821085, not mine but nice to see on here if someone wants to put a link up.

 

 

Well found This was the Mr Big engine in CF -

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 3D1&_rdc=1

 

Would be a great thing to own. May not be as quick as an XE but definately more period!

[5hane]

Thats awsome

 

And its only using a 77mm crank ! gotta be pushing 2.2 if you were to put a 84 in it ? althought, i bet it revs well

 

 

livewire7116- wheres the fun in that

[Nick Mexi-cos]

Ive known of a few AX blocks that went through the walls with a 86mm bore so you need to be real careful and get the block checked before hand , Mine was very low mileage block hadnt been use much at all ,

Mines been taken out to 86mm with my crank it makes 1951cc still got one more bore in the block and from what ive been told it will take 87.5 mm which would take me over the 2000cc think it works out at 2020cc ,

[Nick Mexi-cos]

Thats awsome

 

And its only using a 77mm crank ! gotta be pushing 2.2 if you were to put a 84 in it ? althought, i bet it revs well

 

 

livewire7116- wheres the fun in that

 

I know where his other big cc xflow went

[livewire7116]

Thats awsome

 

And its only using a 77mm crank ! gotta be pushing 2.2 if you were to put a 84 in it ? althought, i bet it revs well

 

 

livewire7116- wheres the fun in that

 

HIGHLY STRESSED = UNRELIABLE AND REGULAR REBUILDS say no more

[bortaf]

what about the Kent diesel cranks people keep telling me they drop in a Xflow block and have a longer stroke, is it true ?

i recently met somone who says he sells em to engine builders ?

[Fiesta Steve]

what about the Kent diesel cranks people keep telling me they drop in a Xflow block and have a longer stroke, is it true ?

i recently met somone who says he sells em to engine builders ?

 

They are very hard to find now, I have one, I didn't like it. It weighs an about the same as a Pinto !!

 

If you can do the machine work yourself it wouldn't be to bad but if you have to pay someone to do the work you may as well buy a good second hand steel crank for around the same money.

[bortaf]

what about the Kent diesel cranks people keep telling me they drop in a Xflow block and have a longer stroke, is it true ?

i recently met somone who says he sells em to engine builders ?

 

They are very hard to find now, I have one, I didn't like it. It weighs an about the same as a Pinto !!

 

If you can do the machine work yourself it wouldn't be to bad but if you have to pay someone to do the work you may as well buy a good second hand steel crank for around the same money.

 

i ment the 1.8 td kent diesel in the sierra, escort, mondeo Mk1/2 ect, loads of them about

i was at a P100 breakers last week and he sells the cranks out of snapped timming belt engines to an engine builder and the back akles to rally car builders by the pallet load

[Toby]

 

Mine was very low mileage block hadnt been use much at all ,

 

Mines been taken out to 86mm with my crank it makes 1951cc

 

it's still got one more bore in the block and from what ive been told it will take 87.5 mm which would take me over the 2000cc think it works out at 2020cc ,

 

This all could be a rumour though! Wayne talks about it but are sure it exists?

[Toby]

what about the Kent diesel cranks people keep telling me they drop in a Xflow block and have a longer stroke, is it true ?

i recently met somone who says he sells em to engine builders ?

 

I have heard this rumour but can't vouch for it...

 

I think it got something like an 80mm stroke - better than the standard 77.6 so it could do with investigating.....anyone know more?

[unclephil]

Fiesta diesel crank, not sure what exact engine though. becoming quite a common mod for big cc xflows

[Toby]

Fiesta diesel crank, not sure what exact engine though. becoming quite a common mod for big cc xflows

 

 

Some one will know.....

[unclephil]

I think its from an 1800 diesel, not sure whether its turbo or not. i believe you can still use the crossflow rods. The fiesta diesel crank is 82mm stroke and only needs some fairly simple machining to get in.

[Toby]

See!

[unclephil]

Google is a genius isn't he

[Fiesta Steve]

Yes, thats the crank I said I have as above. 1600 Diesel crank, mostly found in Mk2 Fiesta's and quite rare now. The stroke is 82mm gives approx 100cc extra on a 1700cc engine.

 

I decided to keep the rods out of the same engine for my 2.2 pinto and bought a long stroke Farndon steel crank for probably less money than it would have cost me to get the Diesel one machined. My steel crank is both lighter and stronger with a similar stroke.

[unclephil]

Will big stroke steel cranks still require the block to be machined?

[bortaf]

Yes, thats the crank I said I have as above. 1600 Diesel crank, mostly found in Mk2 Fiesta's and quite rare now. The stroke is 82mm gives approx 100cc extra on a 1700cc engine.

 

I decided to keep the rods out of the same engine for my 2.2 pinto and bought a long stroke Farndon steel crank for probably less money than it would have cost me to get the Diesel one machined. My steel crank is both lighter and stronger with a similar stroke.

 

Yeah the 1600s are bloody rare now, Mk3 escort vban maimnly and a few Mk2 fiestas, the 1800 bottom ends are the same turbo or non turbo though

[5hane]

Will big stroke steel cranks still require the block to be machined?

 

iirc, on a 84mm crank you need to macheine the cam, otherwise the rod bolts will hit the cam ?

 

 

*I THINK*

 

I guess a deasil (sp) crank would be a good upgrade, but no good for a high reving engine? but maby make a more torque'y fast road engine?? i dunno

[Slammed]

want 2ltr?get a pinto

[5hane]

want 2ltr?get a pinto

 

 

Well have none of that pig iron crap in this thread geetttt ouutttt!

 

 

 

 

 

 

only joking pinto people, althought, there not as good as xflows

[Nick Mexi-cos]

Will big stroke steel cranks still require the block to be machined?

 

iirc, on a 84mm crank you need to macheine the cam, otherwise the rod bolts will hit the cam ?

 

 

*I THINK*

 

I guess a deasil (sp) crank would be a good upgrade, but no good for a high reving engine? but maby make a more torque'y fast road engine?? i dunno

 

Not just the cam , the rods hit the cam and the crank hits the block so not easy work