Off to Court tomoz

[morcheen]

the previous moped non insurance OUTRAGE must have got the old bag very annoyed.why did they bother with that i wonder ??

[Fiesta Steve]

Will it affect your potential work with the police doing the towing away of vehicles, Chris????

 

yeah it does after my experiance first hand with the slimy shits in the court i dunno if i really wanna get involved in it lol

 

but on a sensible thing , it doesnt affect it really the only thing it effects is my traders policy which went up by nearly a grand today because i had over 6 points on my licence if i had 6 or less it would have only crept by about 300

well said that man slime being the key word what happended about the calibration certificates?

 

apperently it was calculated by shadows from 2 bridges over the a3 using some computer that had been calibrated just 2mins before i was caught speeding , amazing that innit lol

 

Shadows ?????????????????????

Those things that constantly move with the sun ???

You would have struggled to stop me laughing at that point which would have been a few seconds before I walked out !!

[garyv6100e]

Seems really harsh Chris , i got 6 points and £400 when i was caught at 59mph in a 30mph zone i would seriously consider an appeal they couldn't really make the punishment any worse for you. Normally above 6 points is reserved for the most serious driving offences not speeding at the level you was caught at

[mk3cokebottle]

mate it isnt worth appealing against , knowing my luck the fookers would dissagree and do me for more court costs on top

[caprinerd]

still a bit heavy chris i got 6 points for doing 95 in a 70 and an on the spot fine cant remember how much it was but it was no where near what yours was mate

[Vista]

In about 1995 I got nothing more than a ticking off for doing 93 on the A74M, I guess it just depends on your luck on the day

[mk3cokebottle]

i think it was more her not being laid for a decade or so rather than luck

[zetecmk2]

i think it's really harsh. depends on your capturer..........i have had similar things end in a chat about cars, unmarked golf r32 springs to mind.......

[stevepeanut]

for the last year or so I have kept it under 75 mph, thats worrying that they'll throw 9 points at you so easily

[Fiesta Steve]

A friend I work with got caught at about 120 mph and didn't get any points !! He got a 54 day ban and a small fine. He works away all week so only couldn't drive at weekends. Didn't really bother him too much !

[w p e]

Will it affect your potential work with the police doing the towing away of vehicles, Chris????

 

yeah it does after my experiance first hand with the slimy shits in the court i dunno if i really wanna get involved in it lol

 

but on a sensible thing , it doesnt affect it really the only thing it effects is my traders policy which went up by nearly a grand today because i had over 6 points on my licence if i had 6 or less it would have only crept by about 300

well said that man slime being the key word what happended about the calibration certificates?

 

apperently it was calculated by shadows from 2 bridges over the a3 using some computer that had been calibrated just 2mins before i was caught speeding , amazing that innit lol

 

what a load of b------s. should have asked to see the calibration cert/ and

the operators qulifications to use it i would have just to make it awkward

for the arseholes

[andy a]

So the first right to appeal is on the fact that they bought a previous conviction into play, courts aren't allowed to use previous offences as a reason to impose a sentence, besides, a conviction of no insurance is spent after 4 years, although insurers would ask you over 5 years....

[pccapri]

courts use previous as bad character reference to see if you have learnt your lesson. and all convictions are kept for a 100 years or if you die.

and unfortunately you cant argue it anymore as you have accepted the points.

[andy a]

courts use previous as bad character reference to see if you have learnt your lesson. and all convictions are kept for a 100 years or if you die.

and unfortunately you cant argue it anymore as you have accepted the points.

 

 

The only motoring convictions that stay on file for more than 4 years are serious offences such as death by dangerous driving, or driving whilst under the influence of drugs/alcohol, these offences are considered spent after 11 years, all the offences that stay on file for 4 years are known as summary offences and can only be dealt with at magistrates courts and therefore dont come under the rehabilitation of offenders act, which gives set standards.

 

Even under the criminal rehabilitation act (which is not relevant here) any conviction is considered as spent after 10 years from the conviction date, unless the person was under 16 at the time of conviction, in such a case the conviction would be considered spent after 5 years, therefore a magistrate mentioning a previous conviction, even during summing up the offence could be considered to have altered their judgement, and therefore the penalty given for the offence.

 

Exemptions to the rules on spent convictions would only be considered if relevent, ie someone convicted of a criminal offence (motoring offences wouldn't come into this)who later wanted to work with children or vulnerable adults would have to declare all offences, whether they were considered spent under the ROA or not...

 

On the subject of appeal, my guess would be that just about any solicitor could get a conviction that was "unsafe" due to a magistrate or judge being influenced by information that shouldn't of been admitted being used, it just depends how bothered you are about the conviction and the cost involved...