olliehsmith Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Hi guys, Has anyone had any experience using a 1.6 pinto in mk1 Escort/Capri? I'm looking to buy either of these as my first car (daily driver) due to cheaper insurance - compared to a piece of shit corsa I don't give a toss about. I've been told the Pinto would be the way to go as I'd get a lot of power for very little modification, as well as it being quite a reliable engine, however the 2L could be a bitch on insurance due to - what - 150-170BHP under the bonnet? May try my luck with a 2L but I haven't rung up to ask. I've asked about a 1.6 Zetec for the reliability, and this only increased my rate by about £60/80 - anyone know the average BHP in that? In case anyone was wondering, the Escort in question is a 1971 Escort XL 4 Door 1300cc, with the insurance quote with Adrian Flux being £1,350 fully comp (as it's currently registered), or £1,410 (ish haha) with a 1.6 Zetec Many thanks for your help guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vista Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 a standard 2 litre pinto is 100 - 110bhp when new, yes you can extract 160 - 170 bhp from them but not without quite a bit of expenditure. I'm afraid a tired 1.6 pinto in standard trim wouldn't pull the skin of a rice pudding in a capri, in an escort you're better with a warmed up x-flow than a 1.6 pinto Top tip, Adrian Flux are sponsors on here and do read the forum, don't say things like "1.6 Zetec (ish haha)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliehsmith Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Oh right okay. I'll ask a mate of mine what he thinks a X-flow installation would be like. Pinto could still be an option so would have to see what that would do to the quote! Sorry, wasn't obvious - meant the quotes were roughly about that price haha! It's defo a 1.6 Zetec for that! Many thanks for your reply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie956 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Hi guys, Has anyone had any experience using a 1.6 pinto in mk1 Escort/Capri? I'm looking to buy either of these as my first car (daily driver) due to cheaper insurance - compared to a piece of shit corsa I don't give a toss about. I've been told the Pinto would be the way to go as I'd get a lot of power for very little modification, as well as it being quite a reliable engine, however the 2L could be a bitch on insurance due to - what - 150-170BHP under the bonnet? May try my luck with a 2L but I haven't rung up to ask. I've asked about a 1.6 Zetec for the reliability, and this only increased my rate by about £60/80 - anyone know the average BHP in that? In case anyone was wondering, the Escort in question is a 1971 Escort XL 4 Door 1300cc, with the insurance quote with Adrian Flux being £1,350 fully comp (as it's currently registered), or £1,410 with a 1.6 Zetec (ish haha) Many thanks for your help guys! Doing the work now to fit ether a zetec or pinto is no bad thing as it will make up grading power/engine size in the future easy, just make sure you correctly spec the supporting modd's now to cope with bigger power later down the line then its just a bare engine swap to up the power, what's your grand plan for the car will it stay a daily driver or become a weekend/hobby car this may sway which way you go with engine. Also don't get carried away chasing power to soon, first car + RWD = unpleasant out come. Learn to handle a RWD car properly before you go upping the power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pack 2000 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Wow your insurance is high in the UK. I wont tell you what I pay for for full comprehensive on my 2lt Mk2 it may upset people lol Does the insurance jump substantially when you go from 1.6 to 2lt there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vista Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Wow your insurance is high in the UK. I wont tell you what I pay for for full comprehensive on my 2lt Mk2 it may upset people lol Does the insurance jump substantially when you go from 1.6 to 2lt there? Not especially, it's more to do with age. Young drivers in the UK are always faced with very punitive insurance costs. In some cases much greater than the value of the vehicle they're trying to insure? At 44 I'd probably pay about £80 to £100 per year for the same car on a classic policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishtorag Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 man at 46 I pay 286 euro for limited milage policy in Ireland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vista Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 I was also talking about a limited mileage policy of course. Because of its mods, my van is more than you pay but the mk1 and the Alfa I get a very good rate for limited mileage cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartp Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I'm nearly 40 and I have been getting quotes of around £1000 for my 1.8 cvh sierra estate! - it's not just young'uns Anyway, I'd stick with the 1300 crossflow - it'll be nippy enough and it's all about the handling (and looks) anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
105Charlie Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I think many first time drivers think they need 200bhp in their classic to have fun, I keep seeing people going on about wanting to turbo everything for more power and wanting 150+ out of a crossflow by fitting some 1300 pistons... Especially in the escort, even a 1.3 xflow will give you loads of fun, probably even a 1.1! You might not be keeping up with everything but you can rev the nuts off it and have a load of fun. I've still got the 997 in my Anglia and that's enough to spin the big sticky tires or slide the car if I really want, not that you should be doing that... I am being a bit hypocritical here since I'm fitting a hot 1.6 xflow soon, but I've done/am doing a full brake/suspension overhaul and full restoration soon so I want it a bit fancy under there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 mike Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I agree with the above. My first car was an 1100 mk2 escort and I had endless fun in the rain on the one way system in Peckham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pack 2000 Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 How much mileage are you allowed on a limited mileage policy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vista Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 How much mileage are you allowed on a limited mileage policy? There are different ones you can get, at the moment I have a 3000 mile policy but I have had 5000 ones in the past. I never got close to 5k though so dropped it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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