morcheen Posted December 1, 2015 Report Posted December 1, 2015 i wonder how insurance companies will react to someone trying to insure a car built from one of these shells ?
colr6 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Posted December 1, 2015 When you get it stolen or involved in an accident and it's got no chassis number or been stamped with spurious letter stamps, police get hold of it....has it been wringed? Investigators get interested then tally Ho you didn't tell us that sorry your ins is void!
HotRodMatt Posted December 1, 2015 Report Posted December 1, 2015 If the new shells had to go through an IVA would they pass? Radiuses, bumpers and things could cause issues. 1
mk2 mike Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 When you get it stolen or involved in an accident and it's got no chassis number or been stamped with spurious letter stamps, police get hold of it....has it been wringed? Investigators get interested then tally Ho you didn't tell us that sorry your ins is void! Trust me, in an accident it wouldn't really get checked. Plus how many original shells have had repair sections on the strut tops and not had the number re stamped? 1
Tuffer's Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Posted December 2, 2015 I've had new inner wings and they ant been stamped I always thought ford add there own size stamps
colr6 Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 Trust me, in an accident it wouldn't really get checked. Plus how many original shells have had repair sections on the strut tops and not had the number re stamped? If these things are not checked on suspect cars I'm off to order a shitload of strut tops,go out knicking mk2 escorts weld strut top on and sell them if I'm not going to get caught!
mk1del Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 there's a guy on eBay that stamps them up to look like factory, can also buy the proper size stamps off eBay, like you say been happening for years, Personally I think one should be built and checked over for quality and fit ,then if all ok be allowed to re shell one like the heritage mg shells, as long as it was declared, 1
colr6 Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 Has anybody shelled out the cash for one yet???
DT36 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 there's a guy on eBay that stamps them up to look like factory, can also buy the proper size stamps off eBay, like you say been happening for years, Personally I think one should be built and checked over for quality and fit ,then if all ok be allowed to re shell one like the heritage mg shells, as long as it was declared, I've used this guy and he's really sound. Lives about 5 mile away from myself. I took a set of MK1 strut tops to him, along with my log book for him to stamp. He has the stamps that are the same size and font to what Ford originally used. 2
guido Posted December 4, 2015 Report Posted December 4, 2015 i think they are good for rally/racing. no reg. numbers, otherwise the seller would put it in the discription would'nt he. I could not see no further informaion on it. I would have a look at those shells first.
colr6 Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 Has anybody got any feedback on these shells yet? Know anyone who's got one?
Gareth62 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 The chassis and wheel tubs look a bit naff http://bbs.rsownersclub.co.uk/showthread.php?232168-Escort-rally-prep-From-turkey I don't think I would go near one myself have an odd panel made yes but not a whole car
katana Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 The chassis and wheel tubs look a bit naff http://bbs.rsownersclub.co.uk/showthread.php?232168-Escort-rally-prep-From-turkey I don't think I would go near one myself have an odd panel made yes but not a whole car If you're gonna dis something at least get the facts right! Your link is to a Turkish Rally Prep company that HAND MAKE EVERYTHING - they hand form / beat / roll every part to replicate the individual panels as opposed to the complete shells from China via Ireland! I'm sure your metal working skills are stunning to pass such criticism on
Gareth62 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 Think you missed the point, be it Turkey China, Russia or anywhere it's a FAKE, someone will try to pass it off as the real deal, and someone could end up being killed, it may look like an Escort but it's still a copy. I think we have all heard the horror stories about fakes from China. Yes it could be a better option than a bad restoration job. What safety tests and crash test have these chassis been put though? It's good that panels and doors are now available. I wish this was the case for the Cortina, these panels are getting so hard to find now. Plus don't slag off my metal work or fabrication skills without knowing me, If it's not right it goes in the bin. Hats off to them I wouldn't even try to do what they are doing but you have to admit some of it did looked a bit rough in the photos.
khanlad Posted January 11, 2016 Report Posted January 11, 2016 Who's to say that the quality is any worse than some can't be arsed bloke in Halewood on a Friday afternoon would produce? How many times have you read about someone buying what they thought was a solid decent car only to poke around a bit and find it stuck together with bubble gum and sticky tape? I don't think anyone would buy one with the intention of creating a concourse mk2 escort, I imagine a lot will be competition cars?
khanlad Posted January 11, 2016 Report Posted January 11, 2016 Plus I read that there's a 3 month wait for them so a bit longer until we find out quality ?
meXEco Posted January 11, 2016 Report Posted January 11, 2016 What safety tests did the originals have? Never seen pics or video footage of an escort being crash tested.
colr6 Posted January 11, 2016 Report Posted January 11, 2016 Think there's enough crash tests on U tube Don't think they fare very well unless you have multi-ponit cage in them LOL.
khanlad Posted January 11, 2016 Report Posted January 11, 2016 Exactly, no crumple zones, impact bars, all this modern stuff, I imagine like I say most will be track, stage whatever where all the strengthening will be done afterwards anyway? The works cars were standard shells prepared by whoever! No one would bat an eyelid if you replaced every panel on a car with non genuine ones?
Leo Posted January 11, 2016 Report Posted January 11, 2016 Until someone's actually used one or seen one in the flesh, with the relevant expertise. We're in the dark. And if the qualities ok, there's no reason why people shouldn't re shell there rotters. It's been happening with mg,s and minis for ever. 1
Tackleberry Posted January 16, 2016 Report Posted January 16, 2016 It's okay buying a shell for 7 grand, but how much would it cost to source and purchase all the parts required to complete it.?
sean davis 67 Posted January 28, 2016 Report Posted January 28, 2016 this is happening in the states with 60's classic like early mustang fast back and 1 generation Camaros, companies are basically selling a new shell in primer. I think from what I've read is that in the states they are doing all of the fab work and replace all of the rotton panels with new sheet metal. thing is in the states they are car mad and there are countless companies that sell literally everything re rebuild a car, not just n.o.s, parts but reproduction stuff that is as good or better than original. over here its only really ford stuff that's catered for, and that's mainly escorts if I get chance tomorrow i'll ring dvla to enquire about these shells re q plate or how things stand re identity
eeb43 Posted January 28, 2016 Report Posted January 28, 2016 this is happening in the states with 60's classic like early mustang fast back and 1 generation Camaros, companies are basically selling a new shell in primer. I think from what I've read is that in the states they are doing all of the fab work and replace all of the rotton panels with new sheet metal. thing is in the states they are car mad and there are countless companies that sell literally everything re rebuild a car, not just n.o.s, parts but reproduction stuff that is as good or better than original. over here its only really ford stuff that's catered for, and that's mainly escorts if I get chance tomorrow i'll ring dvla to enquire about these shells re q plate or how things stand re identity to put one on the road legally it will need to pass iva or biva which is a £500 test if they had been built by ford or approved by ford they should be ok to use as a replacement otherwise its iva
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