V5 registration date question

[JP.]

I am after a Ford kitcar ( 1968 model) First registration date UK is 1992 ( probably finished the build ).

Are there ways to get an older date on the V5. So when I import it to Holland and registrate over here Ill get in the save zone...

 

Have seen kitcars build in the 90's with a 60's registration.

 

As mentioned at that other V5 topic by my Dutch fella... we have tax issues for classic cars in Holland. They changed rules meaning they found a money pit.

 

As long as its pre '88 ( 25% road tax rule ) or 40 years old ( no road tax ) we are save.

 

To explain... all classic cars in Holland, 25 years old and older where road tax exempt. So lots of guys like me ended up with loads of them..... Have twelve ourselves.

Well government needed money and found a pit.... first raised the bar to 30 years and figured out that that didn't fund their wallet enough so after two years they raised the bar to 40 years and everything between 30 & 40 years got a transitional arrangement till 1987 date, only 25% tax rule but not allowed to be on the road nor be seeing from the public road during December, January and February.

If you have space to park them ( out of sight ) then you have no issue.... If they are 40 + then you have no issue...

 

Its half half here in my own collection so half is parked up now ( rented space ) and I am driving a 6.6 litre V8, 43 years old  Ford F250 now as a daily which burn fuel like its for free cause I am not allowed to run my more environmental Capri now... till 1th of March. Will not run my perfectly restored ones to.

We can manage it and wont sell like others had to. In the end they all get 40 is our spirit.

 

Meaning if we buy another one to put in our collection.... it has to be pre 88.

 

[colr6]

The way I understand it is the donor car used if you have vin plates and engine number matches up you will retain that reg, is lotus seven type kit car Sierra based, donor car 86 registered that's the plate you keep. Don't how you go on for your tax purposes being build date later than reg.

[Vista]

Sorry JP but I would say no. Like you describe for Holland, our governing body (The DVLA) is tightening up big time on getting cars through tax exemption qualification. It's hard enough proving that the build date predates the registration date of a standard manufacturer specification car, the chances of finding a loophole with a kit car, especially one that hasn't used and retained the donor car's chassis and chassis number, I'd say is zero. I deal with all OSF dating enquiries and I've really struggled to help some owners of imported cars even when it's easily provable when they were built.

[katana]

The way I understand it is the donor car used if you have vin plates and engine number matches up you will retain that reg, is lotus seven type kit car Sierra based, donor car 86 registered that's the plate you keep.

 

Maybe in the 'bad old days' that was true - not any more! Both cars, bikes, trikes etc. all have to go through SVA - special vehicle approval and if majority new pieces - chassis, engine, transmission, suspension etc it will be judged a new vehicle and will get a current age plate. If the parts used are all judged to be original vehicle they are tallied on a points system with the chassis the biggest scorer then you may retain an age related plate but obviously changing a chassis and its a no-no! Kits and DIY builds - generally bikes and trikes using 'spares' / second hand parts and you'll get a Q plate. Its bad enough ringers swopping chassis plates onto stolen vehicles - having the general public doing it was a loophole crying out to be closed!

[JP.]

So I just have to find me a pre 88 reg GT40, for a decent price.

That 92 I was after just sold in front of my nose so I don't have to worry about that being wrong year anyway.

 

Thanks for clearing things up. Now know where to look for. Calculations show its real value for money "tax wise" to buy an older one.

[HotRodMatt]

Maybe in the 'bad old days' that was true - not any more! Both cars, bikes, trikes etc. all have to go through SVA - special vehicle approval and if majority new pieces - chassis, engine, transmission, suspension etc it will be judged a new vehicle and will get a current age plate. If the parts used are all judged to be original vehicle they are tallied on a points system with the chassis the biggest scorer then you may retain an age related plate but obviously changing a chassis and its a no-no! Kits and DIY builds - generally bikes and trikes using 'spares' / second hand parts and you'll get a Q plate. Its bad enough ringers swopping chassis plates onto stolen vehicles - having the general public doing it was a loophole crying out to be closed!

I think it's called a BIVA or IVA test now?