OSF Contributor Mexican Gerbil Posted April 6, 2017 Author OSF Contributor Report Posted April 6, 2017 unless its a ford manufactured or ford licenced/approved then it cant retain the 5 points the original shell carried Well 90% are fooked by that rule as most of us have had none "direct from manufacturer" panels. 1
l j shaw Posted April 6, 2017 Report Posted April 6, 2017 The title of this www site is oldskoolford, rolls off the tongue and is a bit catchy, ....much better than, Ford car enthusiasts group for cars designed and released before 1980 which are fitted with metal bumpers ...bit long and takes a while to put in the search engine. So oldskoolford it is, it supports these cars from that age and shouldn't really dilute its ethos by changing the goal post, or it ends up loosing its identity 1
OSF Contributor Mexican Gerbil Posted April 6, 2017 Author OSF Contributor Report Posted April 6, 2017 The FCEGFCDARBNWAFWMB Club. Sounds catchy enough to me. Ha ha ha ha
eeb43 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Posted April 6, 2017 Well 90% are fooked by that rule as most of us have had none "direct from manufacturer" panels. the rules relate to the shell not it being repaired
Ray Posted April 6, 2017 Report Posted April 6, 2017 and you tell me how many will declare the new shell, a big fat zero, if they don't have one, they will just buy a log book
Ray Posted April 6, 2017 Report Posted April 6, 2017 so as I cant copy and paste lol ref the kit car scenario, surely that counts for all major parts at least, not just the shell, making certain angleboxes with engines the name of which sound like milk bottles from the seventies (mentioning no names lol) exactly that, new build and a kit car
eeb43 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Posted April 6, 2017 so as I cant copy and paste lol ref the kit car scenario, surely that counts for all major parts at least, not just the shell, making certain angleboxes with engines the name of which sound like milk bottles from the seventies (mentioning no names lol) exactly that, new build and a kit car unaltered monocoque counts as 5 points if its altered as in the tunnel bulkhead etc the 5 points are lost and iva required more and more older cars are getting checked now by sgs sent out by dvla, doesnt matter if all the rest of the car is original the id is lost
OSF Contributor Mexican Gerbil Posted April 6, 2017 Author OSF Contributor Report Posted April 6, 2017 So we all agreed new mk2 shells are no part of the OldSkool ford scene ?
eeb43 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Posted April 6, 2017 So we all agreed new mk2 shells are no part of the OldSkool ford scene ? no only any good to build a rally car with
colr6 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Posted April 6, 2017 Well considering a lot of mk1 escorts restored only retain the roof of original ford product....it stuffs that one. .....is that one a 'kit' car?
eeb43 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Posted April 6, 2017 dvla and vosa make the rules and try and enforce them its up to everyone how they act upon them
Kenbex522 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Posted April 6, 2017 From DVLA's own website and their leaflet. You just need an invoice for a new bodyshell. Keep a vehicle’s original registration number A rebuilt vehicle can keep its original registration number if you can prove you’ve used: the original unmodified chassis or bodyshell (car or light van) a new chassis or monocoque bodyshell of the same specification as the original (car or light van) the original unmodified frame (motorbike) a new frame of the same specification as the original (motorbike) You must also have 2 other major components from the original vehicle from the following lists. For cars or light vans: suspension (front and back) steering assembly axles (both) transmission engine
Danish Posted April 6, 2017 Report Posted April 6, 2017 a new chassis or monocoque bodyshell of the same specification as the original (car or light van) How do you prove that though?
Kenbex522 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Posted April 6, 2017 Same way as the mini and MG boys do I guess. Owners have to supply the invoice from the Heritage people that make them when rebuilding these cars if they want to retain their original number. BL doesn't exist anymore, so the current shells they supply cant be verified by them. DVLA dont count the last spotweld or check the holes are in the same places. I assume Higgins who supply/manufacture the Escort shells are a legitimate VAT registered company who give a sales invoice that will simply say one new Escort bodyshell. Unless the rules have changed for this in the last two years, that what the wife says. She worked for DVLA until they closed the local offices.
Tackleberry Posted April 6, 2017 Report Posted April 6, 2017 Went to a "retro" car meet tonight...place was wedged, with about a dozen classic motors. 1
OSF Contributor Mexican Gerbil Posted April 7, 2017 Author OSF Contributor Report Posted April 7, 2017 Went to a "retro" car meet tonight...place was wedged, with about a dozen classic motors. I'm going to a pre 85 meet Sunday so will see what's about and report back. 1
Tackleberry Posted April 10, 2017 Report Posted April 10, 2017 Problem is some meets make it pre 95....so you get all sorts of plastic crap turn up... There were even standard Volvo's that had parked in the "show car park"...f'kin volvo's..!!! How do these people define what's "retro" and what's "classic"? Cos I certainly ain't showing my car parked next to a Swedish tank..!!
Admin Mk2Jo Posted April 10, 2017 Admin Report Posted April 10, 2017 Vista and I had a conversation this year about the possibility of NOT having an OSF stand this year at C F Show but decided that we would if to do nothing but keep the old skool alive but I get the arguments on this thread both for and against.... we shall see this year how many takers we get and report back. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk 1
colr6 Posted April 10, 2017 Report Posted April 10, 2017 Hopefully the turnout will be as good as previous years 1
OSF Contributor Mexican Gerbil Posted April 11, 2017 Author OSF Contributor Report Posted April 11, 2017 How do these people define what's "retro" and what's "classic"? I personally believe vintage is 50's and earlier, classic 60-70s, retro 80's early 90's. And as the years roll on a new category of millennia for 2000 era vehicles. I don't have a problem with a ford show at Santa pod but to name it "classic" when 2001 focus' KA's and Puma's are eligible is wrong.
OSF Contributor Mexican Gerbil Posted April 11, 2017 Author OSF Contributor Report Posted April 11, 2017 How do these people define what's "retro" and what's "classic"? I personally believe vintage is 50's and earlier, classic 60-70s, retro 80's early 90's. And as the years roll on a new category of millennia for 2000 era vehicles. I don't have a problem with a ford show at Santa pod but to name it "classic" when 2001 focus' KA's and Puma's are eligible is wrong.
Tackleberry Posted April 11, 2017 Report Posted April 11, 2017 The day I go to a show and Johnny big potatoes turns up and parks his K f'kin A next to my Capri won't be a good one....I may find a use for my box of matches...!!!
Danxr2 Posted April 12, 2017 Report Posted April 12, 2017 I think pre 80s is classic 90s 96 retro any thing above is a modern I'd never take my 2002 focus rs to a classic show if I did it would be in the car park 1
JP. Posted April 13, 2017 Report Posted April 13, 2017 Vista and I had a conversation this year about the possibility of NOT having an OSF stand this year at C F Show but ............ Its nice you had a convesation with Vista but you forgot the Dutch crew....
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