Petrol going up again heading for £1.10 @litre

[JAY PS]

At this risk of becoming a grumpy old twat please read on

 

Certain press saying that petrol and diesel will rise again ,leads me to think

 

1. why have we aceepted this shit when it reached £1 last time the goverment saw sense and fuel tankers started to deliver after a national boycott and blockade

 

2.If Tescos can give away 5p on a litre of fuel then im certain the goverment can reduce the tax to help

 

3.Why has the press not reported this ?

 

4. why are sneeky garages puttiing up signs at 1.02 @litre but at the pump its 3p more ,and theres a few doing this in my area in surrey

 

5.When is enough enough ,when we will we stand up and say NO we aint paying these crazy prices

 

My Ka cost me £31 to fill compared with £26 two weeks ago and thats £20 a month more on my fuel bill in a cheap car .

 

Your comments please

[Mr Sam]

why cant they do something like dirty great 4x4 that have no point on the road at all be charged a £1 (obviously farmers with landroves that use them for there purpose are excused) and little 50 to the gallon run arounds be 50p or summin

 

or do it on tax again but start the rolling 'when its 25 its free tax'

 

 

think i read somewhere in some countries if you have a gas guzzler your only allowed to use it 6 months of the year

[JAY PS]

In China the goverment have reduced tax so the "people " dont suffer

[jimbo]

Crude prices are rising and are going to keep going up. Why?

 

The big reserves are past peak production, with little chance of finding significant new reserves.

 

Security over supplies is weak. Not just in the middle east, but also places like Nigeria.

 

Energy demands from the emerging economies of India and China create a rising demand and therefore a higher price.

 

Additionally, speculators and hedge funds betting on the possibility of higher prices have themselves exacerbated price pressure in the market.

 

So the only way we get cheaper fuel is by reducing tax. Trouble is, the government get over £25bn a year from that. Any cut in fuel duty means more tax elsewhere or cuts in the state services (certainly not likely from a labour government.)

 

Personally, I think that taxing fuel might be the fairest way to do things. By that I mean road tax should be abolished and all taxation raised in that way should be done through fuel duty. It seems odd to me that an old gal who goes out twice a week to go shopping, should pay the same duty as someone who clocks up 20k a year. Similarly, if someone drives a guzzler, they should pay a fairer proportion of tax compared to someone who's got a one litre micra. This comes from a man whose put 20k on his OSF in teh last 15 months.........

 

I wouldn't mind paying my road taxes so much if I could see the money paying to improve roads or public transport, or taking goods off the road and putting them back on the railways.

 

To answer your point about Tesco's 5p off. They do that as a loss-leader to encourage you to spend in their stores. In fact, these days, they now make so much money through non-food items (electronics, clothes, insurance, mobiles) they actually lose money on grocery items as well, all to get you through the door.

 

Anyone done an LPG conversion on their OSF?

[ALL4SHOW]

i read in the paper that its at an all time high theres more proof on diesel about tax normal diesel £1.09 ltr red diesel 65p ltr ! why ? its the same stuff ???? i know a few lads that use "bio-fuel" some use fresh cooking oil but i know some that use the old stuff from chippies & stuff but why should they pay VAT on it (legally you are supposed to ) & the ones that run there cars on used cooking oil why should the pay for waste ? they should be payed for using it as the are always banging on about re-cycling & the enviroment well what are they doing & its supposed to be cleaner i was talking to a taxi driver & he said that he wont run his cab in rush hour as its not worth it & i know a few self employed & small bussinesses that are saying the same as they add the fuel bills up at the end of the month then theres the knock on effect of transport cost on EVERYTHING yet the minimuim hourly wage stays the same ? it cost a lad i worked with nearly a days wage just to get to work every week while he was on the starting pay grade RANT OVER FOR NOW

[Instain]

fook waitin 4 the petrol; tankers this time we should get all the uk car clubs 2 blockkade

[omj624p]

It's an absolute joke

 

We need a public figure/organisation to start the ball rolling with blockades, etc. And until someone does it then we will just have to lie back and take it.

 

People need someone to rally behind. Otherwise no-one knows what to do.

 

Imagine if OSF made it very public that it intended to start blockades again, news would spread through other forums and it would get huge backing. Then set a date and we all turn up! It would hit the media and the ball would start rolling.

 

The public would panic buy and the UK would be brought to its knees overnight again.

 

So who's up for it? I'd certainly join in but I'm no ring-leader.

 

Steve

[Rick]

its all well saying that but to protest in your pride and joy, that will be taken from you and crushed as punishment....?

 

this country will reach boiling point within the next decade and i hope im elsewhere...

 

all the bad is spiralling out of control and the government couldnt run a small corner shop let alone a country

 

i agree money has to come from somewhere but its taken from all the wrong places.

[X FLOW EDDY]

Anouther point people winge about is that it costs a fortune to transport fuel about the country...... I live near immingham which is home to 2 massive oil refineres L O R and Conoco. There is a petrol station across the road from LOR and its just as expensive as it is 5 miles down the road, and beleve it or not fuel is cheeper in hull and lincoln than it is in immingham its bonkers. I say blockade the ports and refineres like last time it just carnt go on like this, next stop £1.50/£2.00 a ltr I am 26 and i can remember my dad moneing like fu*k when diesel got to 50p a ltr and when i worked at my local garrage (which had to shut due to supermarkets undercuting everything we did !!!) selling red diesel for 25p a ltr !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Time we all stood up to this billy bullshit goverment and did something. Rant over.

[mossy]

Petrol is 94.9

Diesel is 99.9 down in brighton

[omj624p]

Petrol is £1.00 at my place.

 

And speaking of buying petrol (which I just have done) why the fook do people queue up for ages then get to the front of the queue and say....

 

....er, um, it's, er, pump number, er, um... and start looking back to see if they can read the pump number.

 

This winds me up sooooo much you wouldnt believe it!!!!

 

Why the fook cant these stupid fookers look at the pump before they get to the checkout??? Dopey f**kers!!!!!

 

FFS

[X FLOW EDDY]

Petrol is £1.00 at my place.

 

And speaking of buying petrol (which I just have done) why the fook do people queue up for ages then get to the front of the queue and say....

 

....er, um, it's, er, pump number, er, um... and start looking back to see if they can read the pump number.

 

This winds me up sooooo much you wouldnt believe it!!!!

 

Why the fook cant these stupid fookers look at the pump before they get to the checkout??? Dopey f**kers!!!!!

 

FFS

 

 

With you all the way on that one mate !!!!!!!!!

[aled]

The guy who arranged the blockade last time (Brynle Williams) is now a Welsh Assembly member.....not a peek out of him these days

[omj624p]

The guy who arranged the blockade last time (Brynle Williams) is now a Welsh Assembly member.....not a peek out of him these days

 

Assasinated perhaps?

 

Why arent more people angry about this now? It seems like no-one cares anymore.

[spitbarnatt]

Personally, I think that taxing fuel might be the fairest way to do things.

 

Completely agree, if you drive a thirsty car like a 4x4 then you're already paying more tax than everyone else. Do the same milage in a Ford Ka and you'll pay alot less tax. Similarly with the more miles you do the more tax you pay.

 

I'm with everyone else, something has to be done, we could blockade the ports like the French do.

[scotty86d]

Petrol is 94.9

Diesel is 99.9 down in brighton

 

I wish mossy. try 97.9 and 98.9, not all of us go to asda lol

 

it is costing me a fortune to get to uni and back during the week.(hence an efi zetec going in my car as opposed to a 1.1 fuel guzzler that struggles to get to the speed limit)

 

i can't be arsed with a petrol strike. i can't get to uni, will have to use the train, fook that, can't take a weeks clothes, duvet and pillow up on the train for 2.5hr journey when its just over 1 in a car.

 

when my dad took me to school in his 2.8i(in '95) it was 49.9p a litre for 4 star.

 

how gash is it all now.

[QuadCamCapri]

It will get dearer yet, the futures which are traded a month in advance for 'Light Sweet Crude' that petrol is refined from, are heading for the $100 barrel.

Whats at the pumps now was traded at around $80 a month ago, were now over $95

The only winner in all this is the taxman of course, they are quietly raking in billions in extra revenue as there slice of the cake increases with prices.

 

[jimbo]

Although.....It could be worse.

 

Some fuels work out at over £5 a litre!!!

 

 

Hey Mr Smiley! Make that pint last. Didn't you hear me? Five frickin quid a litre!!!!

[Toby]

At the risk of starting a war has anyone on here done anything towards saving fuel?

 

I cycle to work sometimes, partly because I feel a little guilty about the muck my car puts into the enviroment on a hack

 

If the government doesnt tackle climate change who will?

 

How would you tackle the problem?

 

We have supposedly used the best part of the oil reserves in 100 or so years there is almost no doubt it will all be gone in a further 100.

If the stuff went in the ground during an ice age, and every action has an equal and opposite reaction I wonder where we're headed?

 

Sorry gotta go for a blast now Glad I haven't got any kids.

[mossy]

i do walk or cycle short distances as much as i can....But i have to say i do use the chug mobile quite often usually as i dont have time to have a leisurly walk.

[mk3cokebottle]

why cant they do something like dirty great 4x4 that have no point on the road at all be charged a £1 (obviously farmers with landroves that use them for there purpose are excused) and little 50 to the gallon run arounds be 50p or summin

 

 

what bout us who use em for race cars and osf transport then?

i agree with chelsea tanks but some of us have them for a purpose

[mk3cokebottle]

why dont we set one of them petitions up and send the fooker to the house of commons , i will write somthing up at some point today and email it to ya so you can print it and get them photocopied , give them to your buddys and get them signed then a few of us get a convoy upto number 10 and deliver them all to the rich fooker ourselfs !!!!!!

 

 

i remember my ol man complaining that he had to spend £17 to fill our old mk2 estate when i was younger and it cost him a score to fill his 3.0 s capper so how can goverment justify a rise of nearly 60% in 12 years i have heard of inflation but this takes the piss!!!!!!

 

get ya emails pm'd to me and we will deal with it old skool style if we try hard enough im sure that we can get us a picture of us in convoy outside number 10 in the sun they are always up for a crack

 

lets do it

[jimbo]

so how can goverment justify a rise of nearly 60% in 12 years i have heard of inflation but this takes the piss!

 

Ermmmmm The government don't have to justify it. Crude oil is a commodity, a resource. It's price is determined by supply and demand (see my earlier post)

 

Twelve years ago, the average barrel of crude traded at less than $20, today it's $96. Even with a weaker dollar that still works out at roughly a 375% increase in price.

 

Can't really pin that on the Governement.

[jimthejunior]

Iv just put a tenner in my van, pump is 101p a litre here now for diesel. I have to use my van for work as i have a lot of tools that need transporting. The two things im doing this winter is doing my trailer test and putting a two tank system in my van to run on wvo. Not because i care about the enviroment ( well i kinda do ) but mainly to save me huge amounts of money. I sometimes cover over 1000 miles in my van at weekends at automotive events up and down the uk.

[brooky24v]

im just going to find where my nearest LABOUR MP lives and keep syphoning his car each week........Sorted!