Warning To those with illegal number plates 2

[Mk2Jo]

I have black and silver pressed plates but if I get tugged then I shall expect to be penalised because they are not legal. Them's the rules and I am aware of that so can't complain if I get nicked I just hope that I would get a verbal warning first

[Jeff HPE Motorsport]

I reckon it's good that there may be a hefty fine. It's good that it's motorists that are being targeted again as most will have all their details in order so when they put a foot ever so slightly out of line they are pounced on But I think the powers that be should use that money to search out and neutralise the killers, rapists and scumbags that really are a threat to the rest of us. Personally I think altering plates is totally chavvy, but having Black and silver plates is hardly the crime of the century is it? Thank you for your time

 

Totally & utterly butterlly, I cant believe its not butter, Agree..

 

Jeff Harris..

[brad]

some of you are so self riteous it makes me laugh .

my next door neighbor is a traffic officer and has shown me the new guidelines he has to follow (he had a quiet word in my ear about mine)

yes pre 73 vehicles can use black plates

ALL plates (that includes black/pressed/stick on) HAVE to have the bsau stamp on them regardless of age of car .

so those of us who bought perfectly legal plates from a bonifide shop a few years ago that dont carry a bsau stamp are liable to prosecution . and those of you that have period style pressed plates (without a bsau mark) are also likely to get prosecuted .

not such a good law now it effects you is it

 

my personal opinion is that if you make the registration read differently you should be shown the error of your ways via a fine and something similar to a section 59 ensuring you dont do it again , but to fine someone 60 quid and put points on their license for 5 letters and 3 numbers 5 mm high and 40mm long is an utter joke .

 

gets down off soap box and prepares to get coat

[FredTransit]

some of you are so self riteous it makes me laugh .

my next door neighbor is a traffic officer and has shown me the new guidelines he has to follow (he had a quiet word in my ear about mine)

yes pre 73 vehicles can use black plates

ALL plates (that includes black/pressed/stick on) HAVE to have the bsau stamp on them regardless of age of car .

so those of us who bought perfectly legal plates from a bonifide shop a few years ago that dont carry a bsau stamp are liable to prosecution . and those of you that have period style pressed plates (without a bsau mark) are also likely to get prosecuted .

not such a good law now it effects you is it

 

my personal opinion is that if you make the registration read differently you should be shown the error of your ways via a fine and something similar to a section 59 ensuring you dont do it again , but to fine someone 60 quid and put points on their license for 5 letters and 3 numbers 5 mm high and 40mm long is an utter joke .

 

gets down off soap box and prepares to get coat

 

That's exactly what I am talking about. Personally I am hoping that the police won't notice the fact that my ORIGINAL from the dealership in 1986 number plates didn't have some name under the registration. Next time I order a plate for one of the vans I will request A to E Commercials under the number. How will they know it's not a number plate manufacturer? While I am at it, I will get some A to E Commercial stickers for the black and silver plates, so I can peel them off when on set.

[over_head_cam]

yes pre 73 vehicles can use black plates

ALL plates (that includes black/pressed/stick on) HAVE to have the bsau stamp on them regardless of age of car .

so those of us who bought perfectly legal plates from a bonifide shop a few years ago that dont carry a bsau stamp are liable to prosecution .

 

gets down off soap box and prepares to get coat

 

No way my friend. They will NOT make EVERY SINGLE person who owns a car go out and replace their number plates with the correct type. The rules regarding cars have been the same for years and years, they move with the times but allow the older vehicles to stay within the rules by having things like different VOSA testing procedures for older cars. Laws don't normally get backdated

 

Self righteous spiel over :lol:

[jamesg]

i know two people stopped in last ten days that had black and silver plates on a modern car £60 fine and 3 points each !

Frenchy beware!!!!!

 

Good it pisses me off seeing modern cars with black number plates just because they think black plate look cool

 

would an 1984 car with black plates piss you off, sorry if it does, but hey, it looks cool.

 

To be honest i dont think the police realy know what they are looking at, ive had a couple of conversations with coppers whilst stood next to my capri and nothing was mentioned.

[Trevmk3]

the pre 73 thing doesnt stand for some coppers as i saw on tv the other week someone got told they are only aloud on cars before 1971. obviously this copper knows there beans

[garyv6100e]

Come on guys we already know the law on plates , my 100E still wears the same plates it left the dealer with in 1955 no bs marks there then but as MK2 joe said if you know they illegal you can not argue the toss if you pulled by plod . i am certainly not going to replace my plates a waste of £45 but if plod gives me a ticket then i shall take it on the chin

[countrybumpkin]

so how dose the law stand on stick-on number plates? as some cars i think maybe e types had them from new on the bonnet are they now going to be illegal?

[awesome]

To me it's a Classic factor if they were fitted to a car when new it's cool

 

if they are fitted to plastic focus's and mondeos and you see them driving on the road flouting the law they deserve to get booked and fined

[razersedge]

the pre 73 thing doesnt stand for some coppers as i saw on tv the other week someone got told they are only aloud on cars before 1971. obviously this copper knows there beans

 

sorry that is my bad i new it was early 70's and it was an odd number i just guessed the wrong one but the law use to go if the plate was pre 71 than it could have black and silver plates even if it is on a newer car, does any one know if that still stands because if it does then there is the get out of jail free card, cheap pre 71 plate £50-100 change over fee £80 no risk of points worth it if you want black and silver plates and don't want the risk of points

[mk1super]

Ok im in Scotland have a 70 reg ecort pressed black plates as issued by dvla am i gonna end up being done ?

[JAY PS]

some of you are so self riteous it makes me laugh .

my next door neighbor is a traffic officer and has shown me the new guidelines he has to follow (he had a quiet word in my ear about mine)

yes pre 73 vehicles can use black plates

ALL plates (that includes black/pressed/stick on) HAVE to have the bsau stamp on them regardless of age of car .

so those of us who bought perfectly legal plates from a bonifide shop a few years ago that dont carry a bsau stamp are liable to prosecution . and those of you that have period style pressed plates (without a bsau mark) are also likely to get prosecuted .

not such a good law now it effects you is it

 

my personal opinion is that if you make the registration read differently you should be shown the error of your ways via a fine and something similar to a section 59 ensuring you dont do it again , but to fine someone 60 quid and put points on their license for 5 letters and 3 numbers 5 mm high and 40mm long is an utter joke .

 

gets down off soap box and prepares to get coat

 

 

Hes right as i understand it from 1st November 2008

 

You wont be able to buy plates online or even be allowed to buy "show plates " as the sellers will be taken to court as selling number plates without BS number in any form will be illegal as from this date

 

The Mot laws will be changed soon as well ;

 

Secondly the MOT will include a check for number plates including the BS number ,its not yet clear whether older cars will have to comply but i guess they may make it standard across the board

It will fail if ;The spacing is incorrect ,the plate is a non bs plate and if plate carries any logo other than the original makers name ,website addresses are also not allowed

This means that if you havent bought from a shop within the last say 20 years you could land yourself in court after November

Also it will fail the MOT

 

Thirdly ,you can no longer advertise you company on the plate so any wording has to be on a surround or bezel .

 

Sadly the fun days of motoring seem over ,no wheres my passport !!!!

[over_head_cam]

If this is true then they really have gone completely off the fookin cuckoo clock.

 

Let's say, for example I have a '71 escort, completely original, with the plates put on it by the dealer (which are not marked) then this new rule says I have to go and buy new ones and retro fit them?

 

Confused of Croydon

[emu]

VOSA introduced a number of extra checks on number plates earlier in the year and then revoked them for some reason

 

One of the things that it said was that plates made after ( i think) 2001

had to be BS marked and displaying the makers name/postcode.

 

Ill try and get a copy of the docs they sent through tomorrow and post them up

[over_head_cam]

Nice one Richard

 

 

I don't like being confused

[bortaf]

You can not put a pre 72 plate on a 81 car (for instance) and be leagal with black plates, it's down to when the car was constructed not what the plate says

 

I beleive Alll parts should be BS marked, in Germany if it's not TUV approved (the german version of the BS) the vehical is not road leagal, thats lights wheels, aftermarket parts the lot, they just inforce it more stringantly as we are now doing

[3.0 Ghia]

I had a copper talk to me out side are local shop last week.He made a comment about my plates(metal back plastic letters) i told him they were the dealer plates from new and as a classic car did not want plastic ones on it but still said i may need to change them.I think it's a joke.

[over_head_cam]

My radio isn't BS marked. Best I change it

 

 

 

I would like to suggest that we tell them to get fooked

[emu]

This is the original special notice that VOSA sent out to test stations last year

 

http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/reposit ... 008-07.pdf

 

Then the special notice that they sent revoking some of the RfRs that they had imposed 2 months earlier

 

http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/reposit ... 010-07.pdf

 

And YES, that little cock-up did mean that your car could fail on one day, but would have passed a week later, after they withdrew the failure criteria and you just spent out on new plates

 

What it says in the MOT inspection manual.....bear in mind that this might not be up to date, but you get the idea. I'll try and get a photo of what it says in the actual book to confirm tomorrow

 

http://www.motuk.com/mot_manual/6-8.asp#14

[FredTransit]

A bit worried that it mentions (although it's a suspended ruling) that it's a failure if the front number plate does not have black letters on a white background and the rear black letters on a yellow background. No mention of age related exemption, or was this why it was suspended?

[awesome]

Shit even i'm up shit creek as i've got my business web site on my plates.

Fook um i'm not changing um

[emu]

It only applied to vehicles registered after/ plates made after 2001.

 

I dont think VOSA ever explained properly why the criteria was suspended!?

 

realistically, if the car was\registered before 2001 how would anyone prove that the plates were made last week and not 15 years ago??

[emu]

DVLA have this to say, Straight from their own website

 

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leafle ... plates.pdf

[FredTransit]

The trouble is the DVLA don't don't so the testing.

 

There are seperate requirements for traditional number plates displayed on vehicles constructed before 1 January 1973

 

So what about cars and vans made between 2 January 1973 and 1 September 2001?