Boreham Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 I've recently made a purchase.... of a " alud ford".. I was very pleased with the car , it's condition...both machincally and body wise.. Naturally haggeled abit... with the previous owner... even enjoyed a bit of banter/slagging... we both parted... pleased I believe... I got what I wanted... .. as did he I believe...... knowing it was going to a good....home.. 3 hours later...(including 3 ... 20 min's stops) the engine began to miss fire... and eventually blew oil every where... I was left stuck... I dealt with the situation as good as I could.... got home... and orginised pickup.. I intend to fix the engine.. and accept the owners knew nothing of the engines imminant demise.(please note.. actual condition of the engine has not been assesed yet...).. I've made numerous attempts to contact the owners to discuss ..in the hope that he may entertain.. purchasing the parts nesseary to fix same.... asa I'l carry out the repairs myself.. but to no avail....... I'm gutted as the car now has cost me an extra.. £300 and I've not ye identified the issue with the engine.. what's your view ... (no one is..or wiil be named...it's a discussion..)
SmokeEm Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 If the seller had any sense he would've issued you with a reciept stating SOLD AS SEEN AND TESTED
Mrs O/H/C Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 In my opinion ...it was just bad luck Some you win,some you lose
Admin Vista Posted April 14, 2010 Admin Report Posted April 14, 2010 In my opinion ...it was just bad luck Some you win,some you lose Same from me I'm afraid, they're all old cars after all and working today is never a guarantee of working tomorrow (as I'm sure we've all learnt from time to time)
samurai Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 Wish i was in your shoes My mess of 7K or yours at 300 pounds. We can swap bills?
Admin Mk2Jo Posted April 14, 2010 Admin Report Posted April 14, 2010 If the seller had any sense he would've issued you with a reciept stating SOLD AS SEEN AND TESTED Sold as Seen is not binding these days ... if the guy knowingly sold the vehicle with a problem that he didn't tell the buyer about then he is still liable in the eyes of the law regardless of any SOLD AS SEEN receipt (it's just proving it ). a friend of mine bought a car on this basis and managed to prove that the previous owner had a problem with the car and he took it to court and won even though there was a sold as seen agreement
Boreham Posted April 14, 2010 Author Report Posted April 14, 2010 If the seller had any sense he would've issued you with a reciept stating SOLD AS SEEN AND TESTED Sold as Seen is not binding these days ... if the guy knowingly sold the vehicle with a problem that he didn't tell the buyer about then he is still liable in the eyes of the law regardless of any SOLD AS SEEN receipt (it's just proving it ). a friend of mine bought a car on this basis and managed to prove that the previous owner had a problem with the car and he took it to court and won even though there was a sold as seen agreement no interest in going down the legal route ..T.B.H. and i strongly believe..the previous owners knew nothing of the engines imminat demise....(I hope ) Just wanted to put it out there... ...Put yourself In my shoes... ...what would "you" do... ... what should previous owner do.... ...... Ohh.. the £300 is only the current out of pocket... haven't go it home yet ..or split the engine... gutted
Mrs O/H/C Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 In your shoes...i would be pissed off BIG time What i would do....accept that sometimes you lose out What the previous owner should do....not his/her problem anymore The above is a bit harsh..but that is my opinion
sarkie83 Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 i think im of the similar opinion - you win some/loose some...they are old cars.. when i sold my cortina, i got a call two hours later from the guy - as he'd broken down (alternator had failed). That was the first i knew about it - but the guy was ok about it. if he'd broken down closer, i would have given him the spare i had in the shed!
awesome Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 I sold my mondeo last year and wrote sold as seen on the receipt after a month the guy came to see me and said the clutch is on the way out............cheeky fecker wanted me to pay for it
escort21 Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 Ive just bought an ex-military lightweight landrover, started ok when i drove it home, next day the starter motor shit itself, not the blokes fault as it worked perfectly the day before...these things are just bad luck
sambo Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 As mentioned above mate, if you drove the car and was happy with it when you handed over your cash, then its a case of buyer beware. Its the second hand game mate. Nothing can be guarunteed.
Mr.Sumo Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 As mentioned above mate, if you drove the car and was happy with it when you handed over your cash, then its a case of buyer beware. Its the second hand game mate. Nothing can be guarunteed. As above mate .....some you win , some you lose
Boreham Posted April 14, 2010 Author Report Posted April 14, 2010 amazed..at the reaction.... I would have thought....the it'd be generally accepted... that...unless otherwise stated... most would have .."entertained" the idea.. that a car would run for a bit longer than 3 hours.......not 3 days..3 weeks.. 3 months.... (we're not talkin Banger racing here...now..) I mean the engine to go wallop...... Maybe i shouldn't have posted the thread.....
Admin Vista Posted April 14, 2010 Admin Report Posted April 14, 2010 I think most would hope and perhaps even expect it to last longer than 3 hours......................but reluctantly accept that the seller could not foresee the future and probably had no more idea than the buyer did that the engine was virtually at the point of failure.
puddy Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 So you chipped him on the asking price, you drove an old ford home before you had checked it through properly and you kept driving it when it started misfiring , errrrrrrrr, buyer beware I'm afraid Puddy
Boreham Posted April 14, 2010 Author Report Posted April 14, 2010 I think most would hope and perhaps even expect it to last longer than 3 hours......................but reluctantly accept that the seller could not foresee the future and probably had no more idea than the buyer did that the engine was virtually at the point of failure. I agree..totally.... I'm sure If he picked up the phone... and spoke to me... he'd be feelin bad about it too.. Take things at face value... naturally...
Copey Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 just one of them things, i got my capper, week later runnin on 3, sorted that out and a month or so later the engine blew just shrug it off n carry on
lee_capri Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 that's life mate win some lose some hope you get it sorted soon he will probley say sold as seen the only way as i understand it if he is a trader you mgiht get some were but to be honest they can say it's just genral were and tear or the way you were driveing ect, just get it fixed bud and enjoy it some more
Toby Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 Agree with all of the above and let the buyer beware etc, You are a bit cheeky expecting him to contribute towards parts without knowing the cause - what happened if the fan belt came off and that lead to it over heating or other equally small things that could lead to disaster. The ONLY thing that is a little odd is the fact you can't get hold of him now, unless of course he's on holiday or something. You could be ringing to say how pleased you are with it after all, so this does seem a little suspicious
over_head_cam Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 I would say the same and reluctantly bite my tongue. On the other hand, there would certainly be thoughts in my head as to whether the seller knew there was a problem, and perhaps I'd dig a little deeper into the whole situation
Nicks53 Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 Nah, the seller should tell you; when I sold my MK2 'Tina I let the guy know straight away what I'd done, what issues there seemed to be and pointed out that the sills and arches would need to be fitted properly to repair the bodge. Now, I could be an exception but the reason he gave me good money on it was because I'd been so honest with him about it. Of course, as has been said, that's if he knew.
l j shaw Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 Would you let someone have a 3hr test drive, and then repair the engine afterwards out of your own pocket ?? Know its a bit of a harsh statement, but he may have been very happy with the engine at the time of sale and have no reason to know of any problems.
Savvi Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 Seems odd that he's not answering, but you will never know the truth, but i think that he probably didn't know anything about it ? Perhaps the car was used locally and only on nice days then you suddenly asked it to do a 3 hours journey and it didn't like it ? Did you stop every now and then and check oil & water etc ? You need to remember these are 20 -30 years old now and go wrong often !!! I feel for you but i think i'd be with others peeed off but take it on the chin. Here's one for you .................... I drove my wifes car at the weekend, put my foot on the brakes and it's grinding ................ apparently been like it for 2 weeks We bought the car new in 2003 done 44,000 miles, so i tell her not to use it and bring home my Vectra, i've had this for 18 months never had any problems with it ............... she reverses on the drive and the rear lower wishbone snaps, wheel folds under the car !!!!!! I driven miles in that car no problem she uses it once and breaks it, my fault or hers ? I've spen £40 on a new part and 2 hours to fit this evening just to move it off the road !!! That's just cars
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