Mot every two years could be coming

[killerkerry89]

i agree with the general consensus that its the wrong way to go. as said before, average joe numbnut can't maintain his own vehicle so the requirement of the MOT forces him to keep his car maintained. ANY mechanical equipment used regularly without maintenance for 2 years will be in poor condition, really the MOT should be every 6 or 9 months. i think it would help the motor trade tbh...

[FredTransit]

Mk2 transits don't have ball joints and kings pins last about 20 years too.....

 

track rod end is a type of ball joint and they have them ,

king pins will last if their greased regularly , cant see joe bloggs getting under with a grease gun somehow so not all will last 20 years

 

I was thinking ball joint like on the Mk5, a mate had one of those go (a month after the van passed the test) and the wheel nearly fell off! Most of ours are still on the original king pins, I think we have done maybe 5 of the 20, the rest couldn't all have been done before we got them (specially the one we had from new!). Have to say they only see grease directly before the test

[retrorigg]

ya can garuntee that if became every 2 yrs it would be double the price it is now so tho mot garages wouldnt loose out financially

[In The Pit]

A lot of people in the UK don't maintain their cars, they just wait until they fail the MOT and have the work required done to pass.

 

Thats very true, I also agree with Retrorigg above that the price would be double.

 

I think it should stay at every year and also I would be against any exemption for classic cars as there could end up being some rusted dangerous heaps on the road but I am also against the current rules that a car needs its first MOT at 3 years old, it should be at 1 year old. Many 3 year old cars have clocked up massive mileages with no servicing and are unroadworthy. People who can afford new cars can afford the price of an MOT.

[Ste-V]

"If it isn't broken, don't try and fix it."

 

Why change a system that works perfectly fine? Stupid EU do-gooders.

 

[Sly]

Hmmmm, I'm in two minds on this.

 

I can see why those that run MOT stations might think it's a bad idea as it obviously isn't going to be good for business and yes there's also the risk of poorly maintained cars still being on the road when they shouldn't be.

 

BUT (there's always a but right?)

 

It seems to work ok in Europe, though admittedly they may also have higher standards than us necessary to achieve a pass that will last for two years.

 

 

I bet european roads dont have 6" deep pot holes every 10 yrds. lol

[vibrating_Cake]

or mountainous speed bumps with angular edges!

[chunkys mk1]

ya can garuntee that if became every 2 yrs it would be double the price it is now so tho mot garages wouldnt loose out financially

 

last time i was on a mot coarse we discussed this and he said that if it did come in an mot would cost about £150 so the garages won't loss out also do away with advise notes but like most i don't like the idea

[BIG G]

Great idea.

people should be held responsible for the state of there cars more and if the police were doing their jobs and pulling these cars instead of orange boxes on posts doing it for them problem near enough solved. As for worn ball joints and the like a responsible driver should be able to notice if not fine them. Just look the next time your driving at night the ammount of motors with lights out, 20 years ago the plod would of loved the excuse.

Why should the MOT alone be responsible for the state of your car.

[Ste-V]

Great idea.

people should be held responsible for the state of there cars more and if the police were doing their jobs and pulling these cars instead of orange boxes on posts doing it for them problem near enough solved. As for worn ball joints and the like a responsible driver should be able to notice if not fine them. Just look the next time your driving at night the ammount of motors with lights out, 20 years ago the plod would of loved the excuse.

Why should the MOT alone be responsible for the state of your car.

 

Yeah that's a fair point, people like me or you would more than likely notice something worn/broken etc. But, the average middle aged doris, taking her kids out for the day, probably wouldn't notice a worn suspension component etc. until it got to a dangerous state and became obvious that there is a fault.. I do agree with you though on how many cars I notice now a days with bulbs out etc..

[FredTransit]

ya can garuntee that if became every 2 yrs it would be double the price it is now so tho mot garages wouldnt loose out financially

 

last time i was on a mot coarse we discussed this and he said that if it did come in an mot would cost about £150 so the garages won't loss out also do away with advise notes but like most i don't like the idea

 

You are not serious! Was that supposition or was it thought to be official? £150 is a lot more that 2 current MOTs cost.....

[JAY PS]

£150 nonsense !!! But not unbelieveable

The Ministery a few years back suggested that only it would doing Mots and they would have to be booked months in advance ,but it never happened

[FredTransit]

If it did end up at £150 for 2 years, it would be a sneaky way of getting people to scrap old (10 years or so old) cars. Think about it, you might buy a car with say 18 months MOT, then when the test is up (given some people don't do anything between tests) they are faced with a bill of around £300 including the fee, it could be worth about half of what they paid for the car, so over the bridge it goes, and they go on to the next one. It's scrappage by stealth.....

[JP.]

Holland..........

MOT is 20 quit.

30 years and + is every two years.

 

New cars MOT after two years from delivery and then each year till they get 30 ( I dont think new cars can reach that age ).

[matto2494]

It seems our wonderful goverment are being pressed by europe to introduce a new system for MOTs

1st Mot from new will be 4yrs then every two years .

As someone who runs a MOT station this is just another nail in the garages coffin

What do you think

 

stop me if im wrong but arnt we talking about brand new cars????

 

i think this has its ups and downs

 

ups

if the car has not been mot'd for 2 years more parts are worn more work for the mot station

downs

as mentioned befor car that have done 100k in there 6 year life parts are basicly falling off new cars..

 

NOT BUILT LIKE THEY USED TO BE

[oliwally]

Why listen to tossers from Europe,France started testing their cars 20 years ago,Spain in the last 5 or so.

In Spain they test at 4 then every 2 till they reach 10 years then its every 6 months,If you fail they keep your logbook.

But these tests are rubbish,no jacking the cars up,no free play checks.

 

We have been testing since 1960,our roads have a very safe record when it comes to accidents from sudden mechanical failure compared to the rest of Europe.

 

The German tests are very strict though,but they need to be every year.

 

I was also reading through the MOT news letter recently and they were also talking of making secondary restraint systems a testable item,plus a whole lost of other stuff,including tow bar electrics.

 

The thing that got me was this,they also mentioned checking cars for chip tuning and making them a testable (fail) item.

That strikes me as we're doing the job of the police,and having to deal with irate customers because of this.

 

If we're in Europe then its about time they started listening to us!

Personally I'd like to see a special MOT test that lasts for 3 months at a time for foreign lorries that thunder up and down the motorways while talking on mobile phones.

[oliwally]

http://www.motester.co.uk/TradeMagazine ... eport.aspx

[oliwally]

http://www.motor-trade-insider.com/inde ... frequency/

[oliwally]

http://ec.europa.eu/yourvoice/ipm/forms ... worthiness

[Sheepy]

sorry this is a long one!

Here in belgium you have to test your vehicle if you sell it (that test lasts for 3 months) then you have to renew again if not sold, and so on.

the new owner then has to test it again (that lasts a year & must be renewed yearly) for his ownership.

old timers ("classic cars") if its a car, then its 25 years old, if its light comercial (van, pick up etc) then its 30 years old, you can take them for a normal "mot" and need it every year, anhave no restrictions, but if you go for an old timer "o" plate, then its 1 test, thats it, but no driving at night, your limited to a 25 mile radious, unless its for a pre arranged event.

but i've seen some old timers come in to work that are only fit for scrap.

the test stations are a huge drive through affair, and in my experiance, because they are private they do it for the money, we take cars/trucks all time and from one test to next there does'nt seem to be the same testing, unlike u.k have the guideline from the testers manual, so normally "all" testers follow the same tests.

and for trucks, if you go for test and fail on certain safety things, i.e brakes, you fix them and once re tested, it only lasts for 6 months, if you fail the re-test again, fix them,then pass, it goes down to 3 months! (its just a money making system)

[BILLY1972]

this would be just the wrong way to go i own two garages and a recovery company so much happens to cars in 12 months from a safety point of view it would be madness, I do not have mot bays but garages that do have mot bays have invested a vast amount of cash in equipment and training to effectively have their revenue cut by 50% is sheer madness, the governments drive to keep roads safe lower emissions reduce carbon foot print this plan would be counter productive in my experience customers only get their cars serviced when they remember they are due an mot

[oliwally]

http://findyourmp.parliament.uk/

 

We all best contact our local MP's and complain like mad.

would be better if we had lots of non motor trade people complaining against this as i feel they would take the veiw of "only trying to get more money from drivers" attuide.

 

In this months matters of testing they said that theyre reveiwing the case of 4-2-2 and will try to get a balance or road safety and burden or cost for the motorist.

how can basically £50 a year or £250 every 2 years though of balanced.

I know what many would like to pay!

 

 

Dont get me started on the bulb and unit compatabilty,illegal chiptuning,wiring harness secuirty thats going to become part of the test.

i mean chiptuning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! when did the mot tester become local traffic cop?

 

insecure batterys will now become a fail item when they update the system/requirements

[Grizzley Dell]

insecure batterys will now become a fail item when they update the system/requirements

 

i think its about time this became a fail. i got done 23 years ago for an insecure battery 3 days after it passed an mot. 3 points and a fine.

 

if its a nick it should be a failure. otherwise it just makes a mockery of the mot.

[Skoty]

ridiculas idea theres already too many death traps on the road!

[oliwally]

insecure batterys will now become a fail item when they update the system/requirements

 

i think its about time this became a fail. i got done 23 years ago for an insecure battery 3 days after it passed an mot. 3 points and a fine.

 

if its a nick it should be a failure. otherwise it just makes a mockery of the mot.

i'm all for making certian things tighter,getting rid of that stupid centre 3/4 for tyre treads,should be 1.6 or above across the whole of the tyre,they already to that for class 5 vehilces.

1.5mm on brake pads should be 2mm,more than 2mm wear lip on a disc should be a failure,etc

but chip tuning,bulb type,eml lights,air bags? taking things too far imho.

cars are tested to the min requirements,not service standards.

i'd be happy to roadtest a car to find that knocking noise with an airbag light on,i wouldnt if pads were almost metal to metal or cords were hanging out the tyres