John escort mk1V6 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Posted April 6, 2015 specific to rs2000? I ordered ones stating rs and mexico models. Thanks I did have the same problom along time ago , i did work at car materiaal and tools shop , and in that time we did still do alot with books and there was no difference to find , between the standard and the RS2000 but that was wrong in the suplpiers books. So i make it fit to make the hole`s in the arms bigger , not easy after that i let it done in a machinetool. It did work , but i want it 100% right , so looking further and than i came on the RS2000 rodends. nr 1564468 QR41185 these numbers are for the escort mk2 RS2000 rod ends. 2
seaneylad Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Posted April 7, 2015 Thanks all while im on the subject if it was my hubs to be proved the issue These are my current ones, i take it these are standard escort ones out of cast iron or something Seen two types on Burton, the exact replica is alot more than the other ones which widens the track 10mm, noth should fit if im right?So am i best with the £59 ones? as can use all normal bearings etc but saves paying the extra for exact copy? GRP4 Fabrications std alloy hub, Escort Mk1/Mk2 RS, Capri (not 3.0) - exact replica Web Only (Incl VAT):£91.16 GRP1 alloy front hub (RS2000). Billet machined from 6082T6 aluminium this hub replicates the RS2000 hub. i.e. Does not increase track by 10mm per side. http://www.burtonpower.com/std-alloy-hub-rs-escort-capri-exact-replica-mp1000.html Gp4 alloy hub, Escort Mk1/Mk2 RS, Capri (not 3.0) Web Only (Incl VAT):£59.42 http://www.burtonpower.com/gp4-alloy-hub-escort-mk1-mk2-rs-capri-not-3-0-mp325.html
John escort mk1V6 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Posted April 7, 2015 Thanks all while im on the subject if it was my hubs to be proved the issue These are my current ones, i take it these are standard escort ones out of cast iron or something Seen two types on Burton, the exact replica is alot more than the other ones which widens the track 10mm, noth should fit if im right? So am i best with the £59 ones? as can use all normal bearings etc but saves paying the extra for exact copy? GRP4 Fabrications std alloy hub, Escort Mk1/Mk2 RS, Capri (not 3.0) - exact replica Web Only (Incl VAT):£91.16 GRP1 alloy front hub (RS2000). Billet machined from 6082T6 aluminium this hub replicates the RS2000 hub. i.e. Does not increase track by 10mm per side. http://www.burtonpower.com/std-alloy-hub-rs-escort-capri-exact-replica-mp1000.html Gp4 alloy hub, Escort Mk1/Mk2 RS, Capri (not 3.0) Web Only (Incl VAT):£59.42 http://www.burtonpower.com/gp4-alloy-hub-escort-mk1-mk2-rs-capri-not-3-0-mp325.html I did have some hubs like these , i bought them for saving weight but the brake discs did not good center and also the wheels did not good center becourse they the hub where the wheel should center on is not for standard road use wheels.
seaneylad Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Posted April 7, 2015 I did have some hubs like these , i bought them for saving weight but the brake discs did not good center and also the wheels did not good center becourse they the hub where the wheel should center on is not for standard road use wheels. Ah really. I'm best with the exact replica ones then and d pay the extra ££
Moderator Rally Pack 2000 Posted April 7, 2015 Moderator Report Posted April 7, 2015 Try the new tie rod ends and see how you go. Thats where im putting my money the problem lies. In the end though rather than getting new hubs it may be as simple as having the hubs and disks balanced. 2
katana Posted April 7, 2015 Report Posted April 7, 2015 May be an optical illusion but the top, front most stud looks canted and not perpendicular to hub face?
John escort mk1V6 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Posted April 7, 2015 Ah really. I'm best with the exact replica ones then and d pay the extra ££ The most one`s i can find are the same as these , so these hubs don`t support the wheels , especially the RS 7,5 RS.
seaneylad Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Posted April 7, 2015 specific to rs2000? I ordered ones stating rs and mexico models. Thanks The most one`s i can find are the same as these , so these hubs don`t support the wheels , especially the RS 7,5 RS. I see what you mean, these are mind and they are different. If the tie rod ends Dont fix it and it is the hub then I may struggle to find a replacement :s
seaneylad Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Posted April 7, 2015 May be an optical illusion but the top, front most stud looks canted and not perpendicular to hub face? I'll double check, may just been the pic angle.
seaneylad Posted April 8, 2015 Author Report Posted April 8, 2015 Ill wait for my tie rod ends to prove them first, if its still there i may use GS escorts etc to send me some hubs they have to give them a try, save buying alloy ones etc
Herr Doktor Posted April 9, 2015 Report Posted April 9, 2015 This might sound a little too simple but as the wobble is something you've always encountered; have you had your wheels balanced? Are they warped? I've tried to prevent a wheel wobble in the old mini for quite sometime having them balanced on many occasions. I bought new wheels because of a body colour change and now there's zero wobble.
seaneylad Posted April 9, 2015 Author Report Posted April 9, 2015 This might sound a little too simple but as the wobble is something you've always encountered; have you had your wheels balanced? Are they warped? I've tried to prevent a wheel wobble in the old mini for quite sometime having them balanced on many occasions. I bought new wheels because of a body colour change and now there's zero wobble. Yeah have 2 sets of wheels, one old and balanced with older tyres. and brand new set with new tyres balanced twice. Got tie rod ends on order ... if not change, ill get some hubs for £20 each from GS escorts and try them. Everything else is okay.. fingers crossed
khanlad Posted April 9, 2015 Report Posted April 9, 2015 Its a proper mystery this one, cant wait to find out what it is?
seaneylad Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Posted April 10, 2015 Its a proper mystery this one, cant wait to find out what it is? Ino ... baffled me, Hopefully fingers crossed my Tie rod ends are at home when i get back later from work, to give them a try. If not im off work next wed/thur ... so should have Hub's and Tie rod ends to try. See whats happens
Admin Vista Posted April 10, 2015 Admin Report Posted April 10, 2015 Just to throw another curve ball in to the discussion, do you use locking wheel nuts by any chance? I had a set years ago that were much heavier than the standard nuts and would set up a noticeable vibration through the steering wheel when fitted to the car. 1
mk2 mike Posted April 10, 2015 Report Posted April 10, 2015 Just to throw another curve ball in to the discussion, do you use locking wheel nuts by any chance? I had a set years ago that were much heavier than the standard nuts and would set up a noticeable vibration through the steering wheel when fitted to the car.That's interesting. I would never have ever thought of that! 1
seaneylad Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Posted April 10, 2015 Just to throw another curve ball in to the discussion, do you use locking wheel nuts by any chance? I had a set years ago that were much heavier than the standard nuts and would set up a noticeable vibration through the steering wheel when fitted to the car. I don't have locking wheel nuts, but that's and intresting one
seaneylad Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Posted April 13, 2015 That's interesting. I would never have ever thought of that! Just to throw another curve ball in to the discussion, do you use locking wheel nuts by any chance? I had a set years ago that were much heavier than the standard nuts and would set up a noticeable vibration through the steering wheel when fitted to the car. Tie rods ends still havent turned up to try first orded hubs from GS escorts, is it worth even trying these and they looks theyve been hit or damaged? or is it worth sending them back and trying to get a better set.
irishtorag Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 send them back I know they are second hand but don't take dirt
Tackleberry Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 Looks like they were recovered from the titanic.?
seaneylad Posted April 14, 2015 Author Report Posted April 14, 2015 Been refunded old Tie rod ends never came jsut a double check before i order new ones http://www.motorsport-tools.com/genuine-ford-escort-mk2-rs2000-green-steering-tie-track-rod-end.html http://www.motorsport-tools.com/ford-escort-rs2000-track-rod-end-mk1-mk2-escort-rally-group4-metric-thread.html Ford Escort RS2000 Track Rod End MK1 MK2 Escort Rally Group4 Metric Thread Genuine Ford Escort Mk2 RS2000 Green Steering Tie Track Rod End which ones is it, itake its the rs2000 green ones? thanks
katana Posted April 15, 2015 Report Posted April 15, 2015 On the face of it - they are identical except one is a pattern part and one is genuine Ford (at nearly 3x the cost ! ! !) Buggered if I would spend £70 on a pair! These places do confuse matters! - I'm fairly sure the Mk1 RS2000 was a UK / Boreham built car so would have had imperial threads, the later Mk2 cars were German built so had metric threads. Do you not have some spare nuts with known thread pitch to check the rack, as the steering arms (if bolted to the strut) will be RS Metric - if not bolted then liable to be imperial Mk1 or am I talking from my nether regions? 1
Admin Vista Posted April 15, 2015 Admin Report Posted April 15, 2015 On the face of it - they are identical except one is a pattern part and one is genuine Ford (at nearly 3x the cost ! ! !) Buggered if I would spend £70 on a pair! These places do confuse matters! - I'm fairly sure the Mk1 RS2000 was a UK / Boreham built car so would have had imperial threads, the later Mk2 cars were German built so had metric threads. Do you not have some spare nuts with known thread pitch to check the rack, as the steering arms (if bolted to the strut) will be RS Metric - if not bolted then liable to be imperial Mk1 or am I talking from my nether regions? Mk1 RS2000 was indeed UK built and if still fitted with a mk1 Steering rack will have imperial threads. Advertising one and claiming it'll fit both cars is hugely misleading even if they do state "metric threads"
John escort mk1V6 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Posted April 15, 2015 On the face of it - they are identical except one is a pattern part and one is genuine Ford (at nearly 3x the cost ! ! !) Buggered if I would spend £70 on a pair! These places do confuse matters! - I'm fairly sure the Mk1 RS2000 was a UK / Boreham built car so would have had imperial threads, the later Mk2 cars were German built so had metric threads. Do you not have some spare nuts with known thread pitch to check the rack, as the steering arms (if bolted to the strut) will be RS Metric - if not bolted then liable to be imperial Mk1 or am I talking from my nether regions? Steering parts and gaiters , [normal] bushes are orinigal often better than aftermarket , other things are the same better/poor quality. Ford did make in the old days everthing/ or most them self , now a days every car factory has other factory`s to make thing for them. [ i did work 16 years at a carparts/materiaal center ]
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