Scortedvan Posted July 5, 2021 Report Posted July 5, 2021 Hi All, Sorry for yet another question! I bought some new wheels for the escort and I've put them on, I'm really pleased overall but the front geometry is bugging me. I had to lower the front a touch to get it looking right and as its now about 0 degrees castor. Not only that but in my opinion the wheels don't sit right in the front arches. I do already have a twin cam ARB and appropriate mounts from Rally Designs fitted. The castor angle presently is neutral... So my questions are, does anyone else think the front wheels sit incorrectly as per the picture, and does anyone have any suggestions to correct it? Thanks in advance for your help!
DT36 Posted July 5, 2021 Report Posted July 5, 2021 My MK2 is set about 5 deg castor, 1 deg neg camber, and zero toe. I think zero is too little castor and you might have issues with straight line tracking at speed (too light). Try and aim between 3 to 5 deg. How much thread do you have on the ARB? Can the thread be cut longer and the stop washer/shoulder be moved back a bit, allowing the wheels to be pulled forward? 1
Miniliteman Posted July 5, 2021 Report Posted July 5, 2021 If the front wheel on the photo is in the straight-ahead position then the ARB/mount is wrong. 1
Scortedvan Posted July 5, 2021 Author Report Posted July 5, 2021 @dt36 Yeah I did wonder whether I could get the bar modified to pull the wheel forward again, I just don't recall anyone having to do that so I wondered if I am missing something else. @Miniliteman In fairness the front wheels are turned right slightly. The ARB and brackets were purchased new from Rally Design as a Twin Cam kit - is there a robust way of identifying? Thanks both for you advice so far! Kind Regards Joe
katana Posted July 5, 2021 Report Posted July 5, 2021 Apparently RD supplied T/C ARB's don't have the best reputation for fitting correctly! 1
Scortedvan Posted July 5, 2021 Author Report Posted July 5, 2021 Yeah I get the impression they arent highly regarded as the best kit out there unfortunately. I must say the finish on the bar and brackets wasnt great but in terms of actually bolting up, it was tooo bad... Ive just been on the phone to MST and they did say the exact same thing!
X flow Eddie Posted July 6, 2021 Report Posted July 6, 2021 Avoid Rally design twin cam roll bars and there brackits at all costs , its over priced junk that doesn't fit . This is the mess i have got to put right after buying there crap. 1
Scortedvan Posted July 6, 2021 Author Report Posted July 6, 2021 Ha,thanks for the response! Interestingly you have the complete opposite of an issue to me which makes me think there is a difference between the kits we have? I don't suppose you have any pics of the ARB brackets you were sent do you?
X flow Eddie Posted July 6, 2021 Report Posted July 6, 2021 I threw the dam things in the scrap bin at work cus that's where they belong 🤣 I have got gp4 fabrication ones now and will be getting one of there arb's when funds allow.
notenoughtime Posted July 6, 2021 Report Posted July 6, 2021 I think you two should have swapped brackets would have worked out I reckon lol a compression strut kit is only £140 1
Scortedvan Posted July 7, 2021 Author Report Posted July 7, 2021 @notenoughtime - this is exactly what I was thinking 😅 I was also looking over the compression strut kits but I wasnt sure if that was overkill for the type of use I intend the car for - perhaps not? @BaileyMex - thanks , much appreciated. Its literally just the way the front wheels sit that I need to sort and then aesthetically, I'll be content! Love your car too by the way, it sits exactly the way I want mine too.
X flow Eddie Posted July 7, 2021 Report Posted July 7, 2021 If i my car wasn't fully painted and underseald underneath and all the chassis rails wax injected i would consider a tension strut kit but i am not risking catching the thing on fire as i nearly lost it due to a welding fire while I was restoring the dam thing 😔 2
Scortedvan Posted July 7, 2021 Author Report Posted July 7, 2021 Just been told about these by an old friend, adjustable double width brackets. Has anyone ever come across these before, and would peoples thoughts be on them? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292340163680
BaileyMex Posted July 7, 2021 Report Posted July 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Scortedvan said: @notenoughtime - this is exactly what I was thinking 😅 I was also looking over the compression strut kits but I wasnt sure if that was overkill for the type of use I intend the car for - perhaps not? @BaileyMex - thanks , much appreciated. Its literally just the way the front wheels sit that I need to sort and then aesthetically, I'll be content! Love your car too by the way, it sits exactly the way I want mine too. Cheers All standard suspension mate, just lowering blocks and shorter springs which were on the car when I bought it nearly 20 years ago!
meXEco Posted July 7, 2021 Report Posted July 7, 2021 4 hours ago, X flow Eddie said: If i my car wasn't fully painted and underseald underneath and all the chassis rails wax injected i would consider a tension strut kit but i am not risking catching the thing on fire as i nearly lost it due to a welding fire while I was restoring the dam thing 😔 Fitting a Tension strut kit does not require any welding. Fitting a compression strut kit DOES require welding. So you can easily fit a Tension kit without fear.
meXEco Posted July 7, 2021 Report Posted July 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, Scortedvan said: Just been told about these by an old friend, adjustable double width brackets. Has anyone ever come across these before, and would peoples thoughts be on them? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292340163680 Now they look like a very good idea - and going by a lot of posts on this subject could get a lot of you out of trouble lol. 1
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