accord83 Posted August 5, 2009 Report Posted August 5, 2009 I always slow and give them a wide berth, if one kicks out, the leg extention is impressive, and it makes a hell of a mess of a bonnet and screen. I'd hate to have one jump on the car. I've dealt with a couple of car/cow arguments, it's a good way to get your A posts raked back and the roof lowered!
OldskoolSue Posted August 5, 2009 Report Posted August 5, 2009 Horses where on the road long before cars.Ive owned and trained horses for most of my life and we do pay alot of insurance,we are not all the same moody types who own/ride horses.
caprinerd Posted August 5, 2009 Report Posted August 5, 2009 Horses where on the road long before cars.Ive owned and trained horses for most of my life and we do pay alot of insurance,we are not all the same moody types who own/ride horses.
Fishtailparka Posted August 5, 2009 Report Posted August 5, 2009 Most of the roads in this country were built for horses. Not cars. Usually it is the riders that are nervous, not the horses. It is very easy to tell if a horse is bothered by you by looking at its ears. If they are flat back it is about to go doolally, same if its nech is arched, it is holding its head back and its ears are forward. In my experience (many thousands of road miles with a horse) it is much better if the cars just go past giving a sensibly wide berth. Better than dithering past prolonging things. Which is probably what the fella mentioned in the above post was on about when he said not to stop for a look.
Fiesta Steve Posted August 5, 2009 Report Posted August 5, 2009 Some of my old cars have been know to back fire when shutting the throttle to drive by slowly ...you should have seen this one horse, on its back legs it was
fezza Posted August 5, 2009 Report Posted August 5, 2009 ...you should have seen this one horse, on its back legs it was Pmsl
EscortHeadCase Posted August 5, 2009 Report Posted August 5, 2009 Im a country lad. And i probably pass a horse pretty much daily. They arent particularly happy with me when i go past in the pinto. But as previously said. Just take it easy no sudden noises or movements and just give the rider a smile. and all is well. However my 38 gets a bit funny sometimes . . . .
zetecmk2 Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 3 yrs ago, i got a phone call saying mrs zetec had been involved in an accident and i should get there quick. she's been showjumping all her life and is good, winning all her classes etc, she trained the olympic squad in canada 9 yrs ago, true horsey type. when i arrived at the scene, the road was closed with police cars everywhere, over the crest of the hill i saw an ambulance in the middle of the road!! as i came over the hill (and explained who i was) i saw a blanket over something in the road. i can't explain the feeling. i thought the worst! there was a peugeot at the end of 2 black lines, where they stopped, the red line started! at the end of this was tracy cuddling her horse, with her face bleeding and crying, the horse had both her leg bones exposed, her left leg was broken in 5 places, snapped spine, etc... trace had heard the car coming and got the other 5 riders out the road, but her horse was at the back and the car was still doing 50 when it hit! police estimated the speed at the start of the skid at over 100mph. trace has 3 vertibrae pinned but that was nothing compared to the upset of her horse dying in her arms. and i watched her, helpless!! some of your comments are naive and quite childish. yes, horses have more right of way than cars. you have in your control a killer weapon. if you cant use it with respect, get off the road as i don't want to find trace under the next blanket!! you all know i drive fast, well, more sideways at 30 on a clear road than 90 on a country lane straight, but if i can't see round the bend/over the hill, i go slow. i'm not wishing you're loved ones are injured, but you see things different. the peugeot driver got to do a driving course and a £60 fine. holly the horse died of her injuries before the vet got there. trace got compensation after a 2yr battle and a back op, she can't walk for more than 15 mins and is on pain killers for the rest of her life....the point being...3 people heard the driver say "you shouldn't have been on the road"!
Badgerman85 Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 3 yrs ago, i got a phone call saying mrs zetec had been involved in an accident and i should get there quick. she's been showjumping all her life and is good, winning all her classes etc, she trained the olympic squad in canada 9 yrs ago, true horsey type.when i arrived at the scene, the road was closed with police cars everywhere, over the crest of the hill i saw an ambulance in the middle of the road!! as i came over the hill (and explained who i was) i saw a blanket over something in the road. i can't explain the feeling. i thought the worst! there was a peugeot at the end of 2 black lines, where they stopped, the red line started! at the end of this was tracy cuddling her horse, with her face bleeding and crying, the horse had both her leg bones exposed, her left leg was broken in 5 places, snapped spine, etc... trace had heard the car coming and got the other 5 riders out the road, but her horse was at the back and the car was still doing 50 when it hit! police estimated the speed at the start of the skid at over 100mph. trace has 3 vertibrae pinned but that was nothing compared to the upset of her horse dying in her arms. and i watched her, helpless!! some of your comments are naive and quite childish. yes, horses have more right of way than cars. you have in your control a killer weapon. if you cant use it with respect, get off the road as i don't want to find trace under the next blanket!! you all know i drive fast, well, more sideways at 30 on a clear road than 90 on a country lane straight, but if i can't see round the bend/over the hill, i go slow. i'm not wishing you're loved ones are injured, but you see things different. the peugeot driver got to do a driving course and a £60 fine. holly the horse died of her injuries before the vet got there. trace got compensation after a 2yr battle and a back op, she can't walk for more than 15 mins and is on pain killers for the rest of her life....the point being...3 people heard the driver say "you shouldn't have been on the road"! thats awful! we've had horses all our life and although i dont like em on the road u gotta show em some courtesy, unless they take the mickey like that one lady i came accross! my sister was on a horse and its back leg got clipped by some guy in a merc, horse was fine and got back up and the guy turned around and came back and started giving my sister a mouthful sayin she shouldnt of been there in the first place, she whipped him in the face
bortaf Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 I spose the argument would be that roads were built for horses origionaly not for cars, that argument that they shouldn't be on the road cos it's not safe sounds very very similar to the reason modern car owners give about old cars being on the road The other side of the crach storey would be me mates missus who lives on Dartmore and breeds Arabian race horses, bowt 3 years ago she dismounted to close a gate in a carpark on the edge of a peice of moreland, by the time she had closed the gate the bloody horse had spazzed out done a back flip onto the bonnet of a car and written it off (susspension colapsed, bonnet in the shape of the engine, tyres exploded, screen on the front seat ect ect, she mounted up and fooked off I would have loved to have seen the faces of the owners and listened to the AA phone call BUT iwouldn't want to be the poor sod owner, imagine trying to explaint it ti the insurance company (invisable UFO crushes car) If i'm in a noisy car i turn off and coast, i mean come on it's not hard is it
Badgerman85 Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 people keep saying that the roads were built for horses, while this is kind of true that was along long time ago, the reason the roads are now covered in lovely smooth ( occassionally ) tarmac is because theyve been resurfaced for motor vehicles!! if the roads were for horses we'd all still be driving around on dirt tracks everywhere!!
OldskoolSue Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 3 yrs ago, i got a phone call saying mrs zetec had been involved in an accident and i should get there quick. she's been showjumping all her life and is good, winning all her classes etc, she trained the olympic squad in canada 9 yrs ago, true horsey type.when i arrived at the scene, the road was closed with police cars everywhere, over the crest of the hill i saw an ambulance in the middle of the road!! as i came over the hill (and explained who i was) i saw a blanket over something in the road. i can't explain the feeling. i thought the worst! there was a peugeot at the end of 2 black lines, where they stopped, the red line started! at the end of this was tracy cuddling her horse, with her face bleeding and crying, the horse had both her leg bones exposed, her left leg was broken in 5 places, snapped spine, etc... trace had heard the car coming and got the other 5 riders out the road, but her horse was at the back and the car was still doing 50 when it hit! police estimated the speed at the start of the skid at over 100mph. trace has 3 vertibrae pinned but that was nothing compared to the upset of her horse dying in her arms. and i watched her, helpless!! some of your comments are naive and quite childish. yes, horses have more right of way than cars. you have in your control a killer weapon. if you cant use it with respect, get off the road as i don't want to find trace under the next blanket!! you all know i drive fast, well, more sideways at 30 on a clear road than 90 on a country lane straight, but if i can't see round the bend/over the hill, i go slow. i'm not wishing you're loved ones are injured, but you see things different. the peugeot driver got to do a driving course and a £60 fine. holly the horse died of her injuries before the vet got there. trace got compensation after a 2yr battle and a back op, she can't walk for more than 15 mins and is on pain killers for the rest of her life....the point being...3 people heard the driver say "you shouldn't have been on the road"! I remember hearing about that when it happened ive also had a horse killed on the road when i was very young,driver wanted us to pay for his damage to his wing and his front light.
OldskoolSue Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 people keep saying that the roads were built for horses, while this is kind of true that was along long time ago, the reason the roads are now covered in lovely smooth ( occassionally ) tarmac is because theyve been resurfaced for motor vehicles!! if the roads were for horses we'd all still be driving around on dirt tracks everywhere!! I think what people are trying to say is that the horses where on the road before cars,the roads where not actually built for them,they where just there first
Admin Vista Posted August 6, 2009 Author Admin Report Posted August 6, 2009 Deeply sorry to hear about the loss of your wifes horse and indeed her injuries. However the argument that horses were there first doesn't hold any water for me. Horses back then were work animals that people used for travelling and labour saving, the very worse they'd face then were an unruly peasant or two that had had a bit too much mead. Those factors just aren't applicable anymore both because horses nowadays are almost exclusively a leisure activity, be it show jumping, hunting or simply riding for pleasure. |Equally, roads are not the quiet leafy places that they were even as recently as 30 years ago, they're dangerous, fast moving and very busy, ergo it is my belief that for the safety of ALL parties, i.e. horse, rider AND motorist, horses don't really have a place on the roads today. Horses and horse keeping is an expensive business right? So the likelyhood is that if you can afford such an expensive hobby then you can probably afford a horse box too. With one of these, if you DO need to transit some roads to get to where you want to use your horse then then it's done quickly and with minimal risk to the animal.
Fishtailparka Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 The fact that you own a horse doesn't mean you can afford a horsebox, in the same way that as I own an Escort doesn't mean I can afford some Image split rims. The argument that you should transport your horse to where you want to ride it doesn't make much sense either. It's like saying pedestrians and cyclists should get a car to take them there.
pauln Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 While I don't like sharing the road with something with suspect steering and no brakes that leaves slippery patches on the road does'nt mean we should not respect there right to be there. The worst offenders were the hunts who would arrogantly block any public highway round my way to prove some sort of dubious power. Most horse riders respond positively when you show them some consideration. As long as horseriders choose their roads carefully (as i do as a cyclist) there is still space for us all.
over_head_cam Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 I have nothing against horses at all. I try and pass as quietly as possible and treat them with respect. Trouble is, half the time they have a dick(or prat) perched on top, and on top of that is a fookin huge chip
Fiesta Steve Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 If i'm in a noisy car i turn off and coast, i mean come on it's not hard is it Thats what I did and when I switched back on it backfired !!!!!!
zetecmk2 Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 as much as i've been quite serious on this post, it still surprizes me how trace loves things that are "spooked" by a carrier bag!
Fiesta Steve Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 Whats white, plastic and dangerous for your kids to play with ?
OldskoolSue Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 Carrier bags scare me too do you often bolt furiously into hedges and stuff when scared by a carrier bag Phil
bortaf Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 While I don't like sharing the road with something with suspect steering and no brakes that leaves slippery patches on the road. Mate that sounds just like my car
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