Madda Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 I dont want to make a turn on them, but what are these wheels worth if done to a high standard? It will determine how much time I spend on them! Thanks guys
Admin Vista Posted May 31, 2014 Admin Report Posted May 31, 2014 They look like Capri Laser wheels not RS wheels so no I'd say not worth it
banarama Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 They look like Capri Laser wheels not RS wheels so no I'd say not worth it my thoughts to mate
Moderator Rally Pack 2000 Posted June 1, 2014 Moderator Report Posted June 1, 2014 They look like Capri Laser wheels not RS wheels so no I'd say not worth it Is there any particular reason why Capri Laser wheels are worth so much less than RS wheels? My understanding is they address some of the structural weakness of the RS wheels and the tapered seat offers better locating and doesnt elongate like RS wheels. Once the nuts and RS caps are in place very few could ever tell the difference. Also its easier to get wheelnuts to use them on a Mk2 Escort you just you Mondaeo or Ka alloy nuts and fit straight on to Mk2s. Knowing that they are stronger I would have though most Mk2 RS2000 owners would have preferred them. Or is there something Im probably missing about them that devalues their use significantly?
l j shaw Posted June 1, 2014 Report Posted June 1, 2014 I'm afraid to say I totally disagree with the statement ...once fitted to the car only a few could tell the difference. They are totally different in so many ways, even on a moving car they look totally different to the genuine rims even.with or without caps. Even the JDM replica one look different, just a little harder to spot on a moving car.
mk2xflow Posted June 1, 2014 Report Posted June 1, 2014 unless your into total originality id use them ,I mean how many cars are totally original on here , very few il bet as most will have some degree of modification, its all about driving the cars anyway not staring at a set of wheels 1
Moderator Rally Pack 2000 Posted June 1, 2014 Moderator Report Posted June 1, 2014 I'm afraid to say I totally disagree with the statement ...once fitted to the car only a few could tell the difference. They are totally different in so many ways, even on a moving car they look totally different to the genuine rims even.with or without caps. Even the JDM replica one look different, just a little harder to spot on a moving car. Totally different in what respect? From what I have observed there are subtle thickness differences but thats to address weakness issues that became apparent with the originals. Any major visual differences seem more related to if the inset portions are panted black or not. But I mentioned im obviously missing something and glad to hear what those differences are and if they warrant the value placed on them. I have a set of Enkei Cross fever Racing wheels made in Japan on my Twincam and apart from being 4 spoke they are nothing like the Ford Wheels yet I have still been asked if they were RS cross wheels. So I do stand by my original statement that most people would not tell the difference, Im sure you are able too because you have a expert trained eye and familiarised yourself with the differences but to anyone that hasnt studied them closely or even cant see the tapered seats just like the original poster would not immediately know they werent RS cross wheels. Im not denying the differences are there as they definitely are but only to those who know what to look for upon close inspection.
macford Posted June 2, 2014 Report Posted June 2, 2014 The only reason the RS ones are more expensive is,,SIMPLE,,there's not many left,, Not many left because they where flawed,lol, And not as strong as the capri ones
Admin Vista Posted June 2, 2014 Admin Report Posted June 2, 2014 . Once the nuts and RS caps are in place very few could ever tell the difference. To be honest, most of us (here in the UK) can tell the difference at a glance. Look how thick all the webs are?
jas Posted June 2, 2014 Report Posted June 2, 2014 If u can buy them cheap like 40 notes and u got room for them i would say they should be saved. 1
qwerty Posted June 3, 2014 Report Posted June 3, 2014 I always think with this kinda thing that they're not going to get anymore common, might not be worth fortunes but if they're cheap and you have space for them could be worth having. 1
escortmad79 Posted June 9, 2014 Report Posted June 9, 2014 They certainly look usable & would save save em even if they end up being used as track day wheels. To the uninitiated they'll look the same as normal RS wheels, don't forget that not everyone is as clued up as a lot of us are. Stick them on a car in a line up at a classic car show & Joe Public won't bat an eyelid that they ain't RS ones.I've got a set of Laser rims in the garage that I had on a Mex replica, they looked alright on the car. One thing I will ask/say though is, as they're from a scrapyard, do you know exactly where they came from? (i.e: from a legitimate source as scrap wombles have a penchant for shiny things, alloy wheels included)
fieldy1972 Posted June 9, 2014 Report Posted June 9, 2014 If u can buy them cheap like 40 notes and u got room for them i would say they should be saved. Yep, second that. Always useful as a track day wheel or a shunt down the pod. Wouldn't take much to tart up a bit either. Done a few wheels over the years.
BaileyMex Posted June 9, 2014 Report Posted June 9, 2014 I've got a set of four in the loft, I know they are not worth a huge sum, but I'm keeping them for a Rainy Day!! If you have them already use them, if you can get them for peanuts grab them and stick them in the loft...or use them
Danish Posted June 9, 2014 Report Posted June 9, 2014 Look fine on an old Escort Nice I had them on my Mk3 Cortina - when all the same grey they looked very "Capri", but once I'd painted in the black bits they looked a lot better. If I had genuine RS alloys I'd be tempted to keep them for best and use Laser wheels for winter / camp sites / etc.
BigBubba Posted June 10, 2014 Report Posted June 10, 2014 Virtually no one outside the old Ford scene will even realise there is such a thing as a Capri 4 spoke, as far as they're concerned they're RS 4 spokes. If you like them keep them, but don't spend a fortune getting them diamond cut or anything. If they are matching dates then maybe some of the Capri show n shine guys might be interested in them though.
Moderator Rally Pack 2000 Posted June 11, 2014 Moderator Report Posted June 11, 2014 To be honest, most of us (here in the UK) can tell the difference at a glance. Look how thick all the webs are? They certainly look usable & would save save em even if they end up being used as track day wheels. To the uninitiated they'll look the same as normal RS wheels, don't forget that not everyone is as clued up as a lot of us are. Stick them on a car in a line up at a classic car show & Joe Public won't bat an eyelid that they ain't RS ones. I've got a set of Laser rims in the garage that I had on a Mex replica, they looked alright on the car. One thing I will ask/say though is, as they're from a scrapyard, do you know exactly where they came from? (i.e: from a legitimate source as scrap wombles have a penchant for shiny things, alloy wheels included) Virtually no one outside the old Ford scene will even realise there is such a thing as a Capri 4 spoke, as far as they're concerned they're RS 4 spokes. If you like them keep them, but don't spend a fortune getting them diamond cut or anything. If they are matching dates then maybe some of the Capri show n shine guys might be interested in them though. This is the point I was trying to make although probably didnt put it as well as the above quotes. Outside the old Ford enthusiast crowd they wouldnt even know there were two different wheels and as Danish points out when you paint the inner parts black gives them a more 70s look to them. In case some may think Im just basing my view on photos off the net living around the other side of the world here are the wheels soon to be put on my white Mk2! Twincams are only good for parts storage I have tried a few 4 spoke wheels. The Japanese Enkei Cross Fever Racing thats on my Twincam now, a local produced Rebel 4 Spoke that have thinner spokes to them but I clipped a gutter once and snapped the spokes on one so they were rubbish. Out of the three types I liked the Ford design best so I sought some out here although they were never available on any car here. The RS set I saw I was most disheartened to see the nut holes elongated. After doing research I discovered the Capri wheels looked near identical (although some seem to think they are nothing alike) and the slightly thicker spokes and stronger and tapered wheel nuts which I could easily source off a Mondaeo made me stop and think what was the point of the RS ones. The fact I could get 5 good ones for a third of the price of an average set of RS ones it was a no brainer. I just find it odd that most will strengthen and modify their cars for all sorts of different reasons with some the group 4 mods are an obsession yet when it comes to a better made wheel that looks near on same to the lay eye, its totally discarded as worthless. Im sure if you saw the horrible alloys our RS2000/Rally Packs got you would snap up those Capri wheels in droves! LOL
mk2 mike Posted June 11, 2014 Report Posted June 11, 2014 I have to admit I'm firmly in the 'they stand out like a sore thumb' camp. I disagree people can't tell the difference, when I first met my mrs she barely knew which seat to sit in when driving a car, let alone the differences between two types of wheel however, on her first car show outing she spotted a 4 door mk2 with capri rims on and said 'those wheels look different to yours'. And if she spotted it, anyone can. (I knew at that point she was a keeper lol). With regard to the capri rims will be stronger thought, it doesn't hold water. I've NEVER heard of anyone saying 'my RS alloy snapped in half'. So by putting capri rims on you're fixing a problem that doesn't exist! <br /><br />As above, the capri rims are good for putting on for track days and hooning around. If you smack a kerb so be it! But for posing, shows and cruising its gotta be the genuine RS rims IMO.
Bigfish Posted June 11, 2014 Report Posted June 11, 2014 I think you need to think what you want to do with the wheels. if you plan on selling them.in the future then dont refurb them as you will.not get your money back. if you intend to keep them long term then spend the money.
BigBubba Posted June 11, 2014 Report Posted June 11, 2014 What we seem to forget too readily (myself included), is that originally, the mk2 RS2000 alloys were finished in Dove grey, not black. Admittedly, they look better in black, but when was the last time you saw an RS with the correct colour alloys? It's frowned upon to use Capri 4 spokes, but it's accepted to paint the genuine wheel the wrong colour? You're getting confused on the strength point, Ford released a GRP1 version of the RS wheel, which looked like a Capri wheel but the spokes were mega deep for strength. 1
mk2 mike Posted June 11, 2014 Report Posted June 11, 2014 What we seem to forget too readily (myself included), is that originally, the mk2 RS2000 alloys were finished in Dove grey, not black. You learn something everyday!
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