Someone on Ebay has raided the Forum for photos!

[Rally Pack 2000]

Was shopping on Ebay today and found an Ebay seller has raided images only posted on the forum and has put his own corporate logo on them to sell his car stripes! Damn Cheek! Its weird seeing your car and a photo you took yourself being used to sell someone else's stuff. He seems to have grabbed a few different cars but 2 of them are mine, images that I only posted here for you guys.

I will double check it wasn't to same guy that I worked with to copy the original stripes but the company name is certainly different and once sure it wasn't him I will have try to get Ebay to take it down. I'm sure if it was the guy that made my stripes he would have asked at the time and take his own images not have to surf the net and and use mine from the forum. Although if it was him he should have asked but I would be more compromising if he wanted to showcase his own work. But so far it seems like simply someone different entirely ripping off images at random off the net.

[Ray]

ive had similar on Still retards club, guy using a pic Nick took of my engine bat at avo national day, to sell a standard car in malta, for export to the uk

and on fb theres nothing you can do about it, the images you post then become Still retards club property, and anyone can use them

[Rally Pack 2000]

36 minutes ago, Ray said:

ive had similar on Still retards club, guy using a pic Nick took of my engine bat at avo national day, to sell a standard car in malta, for export to the uk

and on fb theres nothing you can do about it, the images you post then become Still retards club property, and anyone can use them

What if the owner and picture taker never posted them on FB in the first place then they have every right to have them removed from the service in the first place. That would make FB the receiver of stolen property wouldn't it?

[Ray]

13 minutes ago, Rally Pack 2000 said:

What if the owner and picture taker never posted them on FB in the first place then they have every right to have them removed from the service in the first place. That would make FB the receiver of stolen property wouldn't it?

never thought of it that way tbh RP

 

[Ray]

it was also a group / page that I wasnt a member of that it was posted on, it took someone who was a member who knew me to point it out, when i contacted the guy and asked him to remove it, pointing out it was my car not his, he very rudely replied, telling me I had no leg to stand on and to politely F OFF

Admin of that site did remove it and throw him out, only for him to start his own page

[Rally Pack 2000]

13 minutes ago, Ray said:

it was also a group / page that I wasn't a member of that it was posted on, it took someone who was a member who knew me to point it out, when i contacted the guy and asked him to remove it, pointing out it was my car not his, he very rudely replied, telling me I had no leg to stand on and to politely F OFF

Admin of that site did remove it and throw him out, only for him to start his own page

Technically he was a criminal committing fraud claiming parts of his car that was pictured was in fact yours. I would exploit any time left in the EU to bring him to account. (Not that anything would really be done) but a letter to your EU representative to raise the issue of his attempts at fraud would have scared him even just with a letter.

Im not sure how Ebay will respond to my request to have the Auction removed, some of his other items im pretty sure breach anti discrimination laws (Jibes about the race and sex of certain drivers in sticker form). I just need conformation from my stripe maker to ensure Im not burning him in any way before going at it.

[Rally Pack 2000]

One problem is after photo-shopping my number plate I don't have a rear fuel filler any more! Im going to have to make that last top up last!

[Rally Pack 2000]

I wrote to the seller directly as Ebay gave me the run around saying I had to contact a different section of Ebay directly they wouldn't send my complaint through to the relevant part of their own organisation. In reading their rules a formal complaint on my part would result in them giving my contact details to the Seller involved including my address and phone number, effectively exposing me and the car itself. So I adopted a different tact and will save that option as a last resort and wrote to the seller directly.

 

Sir, I am writing with regards to the images you are using to advertise your stripes. The second and third images of this listing are of my car and taken by me that you have lifted off the internet. You do not have my permission to use my cars image or photos owned by me let alone adding your corporate logo to them. I respectfully ask you to remove the images immediately in good faith or I will have to seek redress through Ebays VeroProtection system which would result in total listing cancellation and possible further penalties. I also ask you do the same with other avenues you use for advertising your company, like Retards Club. Any such images not removed from other locations would be reported to the corporate regulator. Given that at least one of the other images has also been procured in the same manner you may find further contacts similar to this one from other car owners. Thankyou

[Rally Pack 2000]

This was the response to the seller, some people have absolutely no clue. Why would I possibly object to someone I have no idea who they are or their reputation and object them to profiting from images of my car using photos that I took myself?

Hello

Yes we got the image from a form so as there was no water mark on the photos they are free to be used from my understanding. The photos are only there for reference so I dont see a problem with using them. Why do you have a problem with us using the images?
 

- sticker_tech

 

[DT36]

1 hour ago, Rally Pack 2000 said:

This was the response to the seller, some people have absolutely no clue. Why would I possibly object to someone I have no idea who they are or their reputation and object them to profiting from images of my car using photos that I took myself?

Hello

Yes we got the image from a form so as there was no water mark on the photos they are free to be used from my understanding. The photos are only there for reference so I dont see a problem with using them. Why do you have a problem with us using the images?
 

- sticker_tech

 

Go full tourettes mode on your reply:

Dear s#it c#nt, 

😁

[meXEco]

Photos have copyright or ownership by the person that took them-basically he's stealing.

 

https://www.dacs.org.uk/knowledge-base/factsheets/copyright-in-photographs

[Rally Pack 2000]

2 hours ago, dt36 said:

Go full tourettes mode on your reply:

Dear s#it c#nt, 

😁

I almost did you know, trying to explain that he is using my images to profit and he cant see anything wrong with that? But I thought maybe best not to reply again past this point as it just going to devolve into both getting angry so I thought best to try maintain the high ground now, I have made my attempt to alert him and ask to do the right thing but why fight it out and simply let Ebay VeroProtection System take over whereby they will now delete the Auction altogether. Something I told him he could avoid simply by removing my images. Im writing them first though to ensure my identity is protected as when I read their rules they would simply hand over my contact details to them which would not be good.

41 minutes ago, meXEco said:

Photos have copyright or ownership by the person that took them-basically he's stealing.

 

https://www.dacs.org.uk/knowledge-base/factsheets/copyright-in-photographs

Yes I hold all rights to the photos themselves as I took them. Watermarks are not an agreement of copyright its simply a way to prevent tossers like him using your photos just like he has. Even Ebays own rules that I posted above says you cant take photos of a web search and use them to sell your stuff. He made it worse by adding his own corporate logo to my images.

[meXEco]

Just mention 'copyright' and 'lawsuit' he should get the message-and if he's a dick about it then just sue him see how smart he is then. Just because they are on public forums doesn't mean he can use them with or without his logo all over them.

[Rally Pack 2000]

5 minutes ago, meXEco said:

Just mention 'copyright' and 'lawsuit' he should get the message-and if he's a dick about it then just sue him see how smart he is then. Just because they are on public forums doesn't mean he can use them with or without his logo all over them.

The thing is this forum is the only place those images have ever appeared but Google came in a data mined all our photos and them added them to any search for people to openly think they can use them

[meXEco]

Doesn't matter-he openly said he got them from a forum and regardless where he got them he still needs permission to use them which he clearly hasn't. We can all find images on the net-but to use them commercially or otherwise needs permission-he know's he's done wrong.

[Rally Pack 2000]

1 minute ago, meXEco said:

Doesn't matter-he openly said he got them from a forum and regardless where he got them he still needs permission to use them which he clearly hasn't. We can all find images on the net-but to use them commercially or otherwise needs permission-he know's he's done wrong.

Well I just sent a email off to VeroEbay the section that handles it all asking what personal details will  be handed over to the seller once I formalise a complaint. I need to know he isnt going to rock up on my doorstep or start phoning me if I were to proceed.

[colr6]

25 minutes ago, Rally Pack 2000 said:

Well I just sent a email off to VeroEbay the section that handles it all asking what personal details will  be handed over to the seller once I formalise a complaint. I need to know he isnt going to rock up on my doorstep or start phoning me if I were to proceed.

Don’t forget to request a free set as a starting point for compensation.

[Rally Pack 2000]

9 minutes ago, colr6 said:

Don’t forget to request a free set as a starting point for compensation.

LOL but that's the thing all of these cheap replicas are wrong. Letter spacing and size and font variations. I spent weeks with a graphic designer to replicate the originals exactly because none of the replicas in 20 years that I tried were good enough. ( I have boxes of the bloody things) In fact one of the other cars he stole the images off show the smaller font mistake ones. So he displays images of mine and people think that's what they get but they simply wont. Mine cost three times the amount he is selling his for. The guy that helped me make my exact replica version was not impressed someone using images of his work to sell their crap versions.

[meXEco]

Tell Ebay that then as well-not only has he stolen your images-but he's not selling the item he is describing with said stolen images-double header! Although I still expect Ebay to do feck all as usual they get their slice so who cares right? And tell vero or whoever you have no intention of giving out personal details under personal data protection or fear of recrimination. Jesus even when you're in the right you can't seem to do feck all about it with these mega corps pisses me right off.

[meXEco]

Can't you get your graphics guy on this case also for copyright infringement?

[Rally Pack 2000]

1 minute ago, meXEco said:

Can't you get your graphics guy on this case also for copyright infringement?

I actually saw him in person yesterday. With my rear ender there is a possibility than in order to blend in the rear paint round the rear guards the stripes may be affected but not sure yet but I ordered a spare set just in case so another three hundred bucks before fitting. He was pissed but he doesn't use Ebay and business is word of mouth so doesn't advertise on the net or anything so he asked me if I could see too it and keep him up to date. I may have to enlist him further though if I keep getting stonewalled.

[herb capri]

I found fridge magnets being sold with my Capri photograph on it! hardly the same, I actually felt quite proud,I contacted the seller and he sent me one for free! 

[Rally Pack 2000]

I finally has a response from Ebay on this, they simply asked me for a link to the page on here were the photos were originally posted. (So smile everyone!) Afterwards I thought I should have provided a link to this thread as well!

[hooligan]

Don't like to say it but your wasting your time, I have reported someone who is taking pictures of peoples cars and selling them on ebay many times and given up,  always selling cars cheap for a relative,      * location always Uk *

he leaves an email address at the bottom of the advert asking to make contact for a payment, I suspect to put funds into a bent pay pal address, collects pictures from all over the net so don't be surprised if you see your own car come up for sale, try putting in classic car on ebay and dozens of his adverts come up.

The cars exist but he owns none of them !!!

Don't hold much hope about stickers when ebay can't even sort this one out, all they do is ban him then he just relists with a different user name a couple of hours later, ebay can't keep up with the amount of different user names this guy has.

must be making a fortune !!! easy money and know one seems to give a rats arse in putting a stop to it.

 

 

 

[Rally Pack 2000]

Ebay are really giving me the run-around now and even contradicting themselves

One message said im not eligible because photos taken from another Ebay listing dont apply yet I have shown the offending photos come from here.

Another wants me to fill out a form they sent me in Pdf format. I can read the form but I certainly cant type on it and further it requires a signature? How do you sign something even if you could type on it? Anyone have any ideas? Is this possibly beyond the software I am using?

 

AU Notice of Claimed Infringement 06.05.19.pdf