after reading retro ford

[Wessie]

i really hope you dont stall,blow your car up, or get beaten by a zetec/duratec this year gaz otherwise i may have to laugh . . . . . alot

[Retromotorsport]

ok more bullshit so i have to reply again

 

Yes but a standard pinto install is a few hundred quid and a standard duratec install is 5 grand !!!!!!!!

 

to fit a duratec in an escort ...

 

all from RetroFord

 

engine mounts

water rail

 

and thats the lot .. they fit end of the bullshit

 

it dosnt cost 5k .. gaz

 

unless you are talking the standard Duratec that the sports 2000 cars use .. then yes that a drysumped fuelinjected 190 odd bhp engine running in an escort for around 5 k .. 6k tops

 

but i give up.. they where right

 

you cant have an stupid arguement with stupid people...they have an unfair advantage ..

 

so i'll stop.. like i've said a 100 times. I dont car what engines you all use .. i just dont like bullshit

 

And if anyone is wondering what Gaz was talking about with the racers cheating..

 

he want them all to run to his weight ... and on treads.

 

Andy pipe offered to buy gaz some slicks .. and hes also said he will run on treads

and he also said if he has to ballast his mk1 up to gazes weight (which hasnt been weighed yet) the gaz should ballest his up to match the power to weight of each car.

Fairs fair i say ... andy adds some treads and 100kg and gaz adds 400kg to equal his power to weight to Andys car

250bhp versus 150bhp ..

 

but that all talk... just do a frigging lap in your car Gaz..without all the bleating and his cars lighter .. his cars this and i'll beat him on the race track (the drag race track)

[GT_Jim]

gaz why are you so bothered about beating everyone?

 

because your far from being that so just shut up

[Wessie]

gaz . . http://www.oldskoolford.co.uk/phpBB2/vi ... sc&start=0

theres your chance to race andy

[Vista]

gaz cant you ever talk about anything else?

its the same shit over and over again,you like the village idiot of the forums

that's because the same idiots post up shit on all the forums and then start crying when they can't prove nothing . It's the same old story , all the retromotorsports hangeroners ganging up with nothing to say except cobblers !!!!!!!!

 

Sorry Gaz I'm not a Retro hanger on, I've never met him (or you) I do like my Pinto and it has cost me a big wad to get it up to the power levels you're talking about. An amount I would not have spent had it not been a genuine RS. All the research I did led me to the inescapable fact that I'd be better off with a modern engine in terms of power output and driveability, and if I had a non AVO car that's exactly what I would have done. PLUS power without strength is kind of pointless in my opinion, why spend £2000 on a budget performance pinto if you'll break it quick style the first time you really want to give it some stick, isn't that false economy? Hence a sizeable chink of my budget was for forged pistons, stronger rods (BTW yes diesel rods can be had for around £100 but to be really worth having they need considerable machining in terms of lightening and balancing), rod bolts etc etc. My head alone was around £1500 of the £2k figure you're quoting for the budget 200bhp pinto and that's without carbs and manifolds.

 

What I see in this thread is retro repeatedly quoting prices and facts that can be verified

 

What I see you doing is throwing out the same tired record again and again with absolutely nothing to back it up. I've seen a Zetec install in a mk1 Escort pushing out around 170bhp and there's no way it cost anything like the figures you're quoting to do.

 

So I guess what I'm saying is if you want to be taken seriously in this thread back your arguments up with some hard facts that anyone reading it can go out and verify, it just isn't enough to keep repeating the same statement again and again. You must have heard what happened to the boy that cried wolf? If not I'll explain, EVERYONE stopped listening to him.

[RETRO_AL]

gaz cant you ever talk about anything else?

its the same shit over and over again,you like the village idiot of the forums

that's because the same idiots post up shit on all the forums and then start crying when they can't prove nothing . It's the same old story , all the retromotorsports hangeroners ganging up with nothing to say except cobblers !!!!!!!!

 

all you ever do it slate everything thats not got a pinto

turbos are shit, zetecs are shit, nos is cheating, wider tyres is cheating, stripped out interior is cheating blah blah blah

everybody is sick of hearing the same broken record

no wonder you get threats all the time

[RETRO_AL]

gaz . . http://www.oldskoolford.co.uk/phpBB2/vi ... sc&start=0

theres your chance to race andy

i want to do that but its the birds birthday she said i can go but i dont think she means it

[Wessie]

gaz . . http://www.oldskoolford.co.uk/phpBB2/vi ... sc&start=0

theres your chance to race andy

i want to do that but its the birds birthday she said i can go but i dont think she means it

chuck her in the passenger seat

[GT_Jim]

gaz . . http://www.oldskoolford.co.uk/phpBB2/vi ... sc&start=0

theres your chance to race andy

i want to do that but its the birds birthday she said i can go but i dont think she means it

chuck her in the passenger seat

 

send her off to be pamperd they love that kind of thing - leaving you able to go racing

[Guest MK1gaz]

I'm not bothered what some people think of my price list really but you can beat a £5000 190 bhp duratec with a £2000 pinto install AND WHEN retro finds one i will

[Wessie]

will that be running in full street trim, no wide tyres, no NOS etc?

[Guest MK1gaz]

gaz cant you ever talk about anything else?

its the same shit over and over again,you like the village idiot of the forums

that's because the same idiots post up shit on all the forums and then start crying when they can't prove nothing . It's the same old story , all the retromotorsports hangeroners ganging up with nothing to say except cobblers !!!!!!!!

 

all you ever do it slate everything thats not got a pinto

turbos are shit, zetecs are shit, nos is cheating, wider tyres is cheating, stripped out interior is cheating blah blah blah

everybody is sick of hearing the same broken record

no wonder you get threats all the time

Stop talking shite mate , you're a retromotorsport hangeroner so your views don't matter

[Guest MK1gaz]

will that be running in full street trim, no wide tyres, no NOS etc?

It already does

[GT_Jim]

gaz cant you ever talk about anything else?

its the same shit over and over again,you like the village idiot of the forums

that's because the same idiots post up shit on all the forums and then start crying when they can't prove nothing . It's the same old story , all the retromotorsports hangeroners ganging up with nothing to say except cobblers !!!!!!!!

 

all you ever do it slate everything thats not got a pinto

turbos are shit, zetecs are shit, nos is cheating, wider tyres is cheating, stripped out interior is cheating blah blah blah

everybody is sick of hearing the same broken record

no wonder you get threats all the time

Stop talking shite mate , you're a retromotorsport hangeroner so your views don't matter

 

is that because you cant think of a suitable comeback gaz if i were you id go for a mug full of STFU

[Wessie]

will that be running in full street trim, no wide tyres, no NOS etc?

It already does

i meant when someone finds theres duratec, they wont be able to race you with there 5k duratec unless they had full street trim, no twide tyres, no gas etc ?

[Arched Escy]

Duratecs are a waste of money and thats for sure!I don't agree with Gaz most of the time,but a £2000 Pinto is much better value!Or a YBT...

[Guest MK1gaz]

Lets get this straight shall we then . If anyone wants to compare a motor against another in a race then one with slicks , nitrous and half the bits left off can't be compared to one which hasn't can it ? So whilst discussing this on previous threads i've always stated that fact , AND IT'S FOOOOOOOOOKIN TRUE

[Guest MK1gaz]

Duratecs are a waste of money and thats for sure!

Exactly , someones bloody listening for once

[GT_Jim]

Lets get this straight shall we then . If anyone wants to compare a motor against another in a race then one with slicks , nitrous and half the bits left off can't be compared to one which hasn't can it ? So whilst discussing this on previous threads i've always stated that fact , AND IT'S FOOOOOOOOOKIN TRUE

 

depends on the handicap which is based on other variables such as driver competance and specification of car the above items could be used to the advantage of a lesser driver but as there are no rules set out its pretty much fair game

[Guest MK1gaz]

Lets get this straight shall we then . If anyone wants to compare a motor against another in a race then one with slicks , nitrous and half the bits left off can't be compared to one which hasn't can it ? So whilst discussing this on previous threads i've always stated that fact , AND IT'S FOOOOOOOOOKIN TRUE

 

depends on the handicap which is based on other variables such as driver competance and specification of car the above items could be used to the advantage of a lesser driver but as there are no rules set out its pretty much fair game

But am i right or not ? A car with slicks , gas and half the bits missing CAN'T be compared to one which hasn't , can it ?

[GT_Jim]

Lets get this straight shall we then . If anyone wants to compare a motor against another in a race then one with slicks , nitrous and half the bits left off can't be compared to one which hasn't can it ? So whilst discussing this on previous threads i've always stated that fact , AND IT'S FOOOOOOOOOKIN TRUE

 

depends on the handicap which is based on other variables such as driver competance and specification of car the above items could be used to the advantage of a lesser driver but as there are no rules set out its pretty much fair game

But am i right or not ? A car with slicks , gas and half the bits missing CAN'T be compared to one which hasn't , can it ?

 

your neither as i dont know who is driving what and what they are like on a track once thats been established you can set your rules so that they are as fair as possible

[Wessie]

i take it by 'racing' you mean drag racing ?

[GT_Jim]

i assumed this is all going on the trackfrom what retro said but i could be mistaken if this is about drag racing somebody should get a life

[Wessie]

dont get me wrong, i love some of the cars in OSFDC but IMO whats the point of going quick in a straght line if you cant go round corners quick

[tim]

who fookin cares,as long as your happy with your own car,how it look,drives,performance etc then that all that should matter

 

you build a car to your needs and budget