Built or bought in Classic Ford....

[Mr.Sumo]

...so which one are you then ?

 

Me , i have always been built , but now i am unashamedly bought . For the first time in years i now have n OldSkoolFord that has everything i would have done to build a OSF the way i would have....if i could ever afford it

 

So , what are you lot then ?

 

[Vista]

I don't think there's a difference personally and the whole issue is (IMHO) divisive.

 

Everything that's fitted to a car has been bought in some way shape or form (unless there's a magic part tree out there that grows shiny new bits for people to fit). Equally, everything that's been fitted to it has been fitted by hand regardless of whether it was the owners hand or someone the owner paid to do it.

 

So I don't give a rats arse whether someone has built their car themselves or had it built for them, a nice car is a nice car and a crap one is just that, no matter how each came into being.

[MM77]

I also dont see the difference.

 

My skills are not in the shed. My skills are office based.

So if I spend time in the office rather than the shed to generate money to pay for the project, how is that different.

 

I'm working longer and harder than I normally would in order to create a project - where I do this extra work is irrelevant IMO.

[Retromotorsport]

My customers build their cars .. all they get from me is the shell , they then build them up, same as the ones who have 'built' their cars, they bought a standard 1100 shell and bolted the 1600 in it, then the brakes and the wheels.

 

Yes there are the guys who do their own paint... but as thats technically illegal nowadays its not to be applauded in public .

 

And the biggest thing i hate about this 'built not bought ' is the twofacedness of it .. i've heard people slate off cars that are 'built' when they see them in the flesh, as the paint isnt the best, or the body has some ripples, and the same people slate a pristine car because it was 'bought'

 

 

So all this bought/built crap is just that, it hurts the ones that cant build cars themselves and starts a 'them and us ' atitude, something which can only be bad for the scene .

[MM77]

Well said Mr Retro

[sambo]

This does wind me up to be honest. "built not bought", what the?

I have a single garage in a block, and have bolted everything onto the car but didnt paint it, do the shell prep or build the engine. What category does that put me in?

The "bought" one? Cos i didnt build my engine in a shed with a dremel and a hammer? Just cos people dont mind paying for a profressional build it seems that some people scoff at that fact.

 

Everything that i can do, i do, but i leave the important bits to the pros.

[Stu_B]

I enjoy working on my car. I also can't afford to pay someone to work on it for me.

 

I'm proud of what I have achieved myself but I'm not too proud to get some help when I need it & send it to the pro's

[Mr.Sumo]

I think the point is being missed here.....

 

all i was asking was if you where a built or bought person , not if you cared either way.......

 

i couldn"t give a rats arse if the car was bought by the owner or he built it himself.....or tbh , whether he paid someone else to build it , a well " built " car is , well , a well built car .

 

....what i am saying / asking , is whether you just went out and bought a ready to go off the shelf OSF or built it yourself .....

 

is that such a hard question....

 

[jay_g]

Everything that i can do, i do, but i leave the important bits to the pros.

 

Sounds fair enough, not many people can do all aspect to a high standard so somewhere along the line everyone has paid at some point.

 

Willingness to have a go at something and get your hands dirty trying is probably a must tho no matter how small a job but would expect most people to do atleast something, thats presuming there are not people sending a cheque with a shell off and expecting a turn key classic in return!!

[sambo]

its the fact that you said "unashamedly bought". As if that not building your car all in a shed using cheaper parts is something to be ashamed of.

[Toby]

I think if a car is "your vision" then its built.

 

I think if you bought it done - as someone elses finished project - it's bought.

 

But I don't make the rules up - but this seems logical

 

Does it matter? Not really, as long as your enjoying it.

[Jiffer]

both my cortinas were bought, not got the skills to build one, wish i had cos there are some very talented people out there turning out some lovly cars.

i've done some work to both and will continue to like respaying wheels and making own strut brace etc etc not to a great standard but enjoy p1ssing about with them, niether of mine are ever going to be show winners by a long stretch but it keeps me out of trouble

[Mr.Sumo]

its the fact that you said "unashamedly bought". As if that not building your car all in a shed using cheaper parts is something to be ashamed of.

 

Sambo , who mentioned anything about cheaper parts ?

 

[sambo]

its the fact that you said "unashamedly bought". As if that not building your car all in a shed using cheaper parts is something to be ashamed of.

 

Sambo , who mentioned anything about cheaper parts ?

 

 

You know what i mean

I dont earn great money but literally all my spare cash goes into my car, (i dont have a life!) i do all the mechanics etc.

Just cos you havnt got a pro to do certain jobs, doesnt mean you can slate the people that have. Yes there are cheque book people, that dont know a thing about the workings of a car (and they are quite funny) but they atill love driving and talking about theier cars.

 

by the way, im not aiming this reply at you, but the phrase "built not bought" gets on my tits. Everyone has bought things for their car at some point.

 

 

P.S ~ i think that this annoys me is the fact that i won the best "cheque book" car of the day at a show once. This was purely cos i paid a friend of the judge £2300 for a paint job. I know i wouldnt want to paint an escort in a 2-tone paint job!!

[ratman]

I think you have all missed the point it was a simple question

 

Did you build or bye it simple as

 

Can’t see why people are jumping on sumo's back over this

 

I built mine myself with bought part that was for an escort that I modified to fit MY Cortina because as you all know there is fook all for other cars than the escort

 

Then I paid people to do the work I couldn’t do like the paint, head lining, wiring & custom link rods cheers Gary

 

So what am I then "built or bought"

 

I know Sumo very well and he would love to have the car he bought but build it him self that’s why he did the deal with the escort as due to Mad escort prices and no time he could never do it justice

 

I think every one needs to chill out

 

And any one who slag’s off cars coming out of shops like Retro's are just jealous assholes who should just grow up

[Mr.Sumo]

Sambo , i was the same mate , every spare bit of cash went on the Wagon...now , all i need is to save for a paint job

 

Did make me laugh about your cheque book win......

[lee 1]

Mines built which is probably why it's still not finnished

 

as for the whole debate thing.....well i think it's a crock i have never and will never slag a car or person because it's brought as allready said a well built car is just that.That said i built mine mainly because it's my hobbie and i enjoy doing it simple as that really.

[bigglesmk2]

Mines not built or bought really

 

Kind of a work in progress but as far away from progress as you can get

[caprinerd]

all the work on mine ive done and not shiped it out and had a garage do it for me, ported my own head, sorted body, rebuilt all suspension, gearbox, brakes, and steering, yes i bought the parts but thats all i bought i didnt ship the work out, so mines home built

[BIGKEV]

 

built not bought for me means that me and my mates helped build this car

 

I have bought stuff (you need to) but has this car been bought no its been built...... what was the question?

 

 

Spending Obscene amounts of money on cars that you couldnt give away 10 years ago however is what winds me up

 

What was a cheap hobby now seems to be a Stupidly expensive investment which if I wasnt already into at the time I wouldnt have been able to get into today...... The rants of a skint bloke though......

 

One day when I have loads of money...... hah that aint happening for a while.

[Mr Sam]

mines bought then re-built as it was a dog (and still is) i dont have the money to have it built so to speak and at the end of the day it wouldnt reallyt feel like mine if someone else had done all the work on it

 

bit like modern cars just no soul to them

 

 

 

im not having dig at anyone who sends thier car of to body shops or engine builders though soon as i have some money i WILL be harris'd

[mr zefect]

Mines built by me i have done everything on my car from engine wiring bodywork paint even soldering all the bits in my ecu and maping ect and have done all the work on my cars since before i could drive only cos i enjoy a challange and cos im to skint to pay out for people to do work for me it would be lovely to have the money to send it away but where would the fun be in that

[5hane]

mines neither,

 

its just rusting

[davreeve]

it would be lovely to have the money to send it away but where would the fun be in that

Imo that sums it up for me. I,m not that talented and certainly not financially well off but for me its fun and provides immense job satisfaction to do all my own work. I know that even if i had the cash i,d still do my own work as i would get no pleasure in owning or driving a car that was rebuilt by someone else.Thats just my opinion though.

[zetecmk2]

i just want to join in the arguement, but it seems it's over!

kooltina is quite "built", as in we made the engine mounts, exhaust manifold, inlet manifold, alt bracket, alt bracket, and another alt bracket (they do crack), gearbox x member, prop etc, but the gt is more" built" as i'm making my chassis, but the escort is less "built" as i bolted, welded, riveted parts to a car ford built. so i suppose i fit into "built because i can't afford to buy" catergory!!