yb or ford v8 power . Cant decide

[xpackken]

hey you guys hows everyone doing not been on for a while down to a lack of owning a osf , but am currently doing a cologne arched mk1 but am having a bit of a dilema in how to power it ! Up until tonight i have was defo gona go down the cosworth power route . But having seen an article of a small block ford capri . It got me thinking so what do you guys think i love the feel of a v8d capri but how good does a yb powdered osf feel ?? And what is the easyer and cheaper conversion ??

[RossMK2]

hey you guys hows everyone doing not been on for a while down to a lack of owning a osf , but am currently doing a cologne arched mk1 but am having a bit of a dilema in how to power it ! Up until tonight i have was defo gona go down the cosworth power route . But having seen an article of a small block ford capri . It got me thinking so what do you guys think i love the feel of a v8d capri but how good does a yb powdered osf feel ?? And what is the easyer and cheaper conversion ??

 

id go v8

[Copey]

v8!

[5hane]

Capri = V8

 

[xpackken]

didnt think it would be as 1 sided as its been so far . Keep opinions coming guys

[zetecmk2]

v8 cheaper than you think too!!

[xpackken]

just read in last months cf that better of with a ford mustang fox body engine and box . What is one of them ??? And what sort of bhp are these things ?

[Beakster]

Lexus V8!!!! 1UZFE!

 

 

Here's a complete doner car that sold for 500 quid http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Toyota-Celsior-JD ... 286.c0.m14

[xpackken]

Lexus V8!!!! 1UZFE! Here's a complete doner car that sold for 500 quid http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Toyota-Celsior-JD ... 286.c0.m14

sounds like alot of hassle that does if i was going to do something complicated id love the audi rs4 engine

[turnover]

depends how much power your going for ,which will effect drivability plus reliability

[xpackken]

well i would be happy with 250plus 300 and id be very happy i would of thought the ford 302s are quite simple and realiabje arnt they . Ybs just seem expensive but i love the feel of turbo power its aggresive power isnt it

[sambo]

Dude, your building a cologne arched MK1 capri....... imagine that whooshing down the road!?!? ....... just aint right!

 

 

 

Now imagine it snaking down the road with the soundtrack of a V8......

 

 

150% V8 route mate.

 

(just dont put a bloody rover in it)

[NeilT]

V8 m8 all day long

[Vista]

YB turbo gets my vote.

 

I've never been a fan of big yank V8's. Large simple heavy things that upset your handling balance and pound for pound don't produce nearly as much horse power as they should do given their enormous capacities.

[sambo]

I must admit, i wasnt a fan until i went out in a friends Windsor powered GT40.... the thing was soooo gutsy! it just pulled so hard from nothing.....all the way to 5000rpm.....when you have to change gear.... lol

 

still great fun though and would suit the Capri.

[turnover]

if you like the cossie soundtrack and only want 300 hp ,then stick the cossie in ,as 300 hp it will be very cheap to achieve and will be very very reliable,and on a plus side if you drive it sensible you will return good mpg,not being one way coz i have a few cossie powered vehicles ,as i also like the V8s and the sound they make is awesome ,its simply down to your budget and prefference,maybe you could get a ride in 2 simular powered vehicles with both engines then it might help you descide,as its disapointing if you end up fitting either and are not happy for some reason,just my opinion

[4parajon]

I love both engines so I'm undecided, I spent a long time thinking this thru myself, whichever you decide it would be awesome.

 

I chose the YB in the end because :

 

a) it went straight in, using the same engine mounts, and nothing had to be cut away from my shell, which I did'nt want.

I did'nt know a V8 engine builder at the time, I did know a very good engine builder for the YB and I trust him (the 2nd engine not the first), which was also important to me in case anything goes wrong, which it has'nt.

 

I'm still thinking of going the V8 route, but if I did I'd want the LS8 engine which is 500bhp straight out of the box and relatively un-stressed, but there big money. Pound for pound I think the cossie offers the best value in this country, I priced up a couple of Yank V8 re-builds in the summer and there the same sort of money I paid for the cossie and I dont know them, if I lived in the U.S there cheap as chips.

[V8ian]

V8 evey time, and you will probably get better fuel consumption than a tuned YB, FOX body mustang, Mustang Mk3, came with a 5.0 windsor, which is basically the same as a 302, but with injection, roller cam etc, T5 was an option, so its not hard to get 5,0 injected 5Speed mustang engine, Injection IIRC is a stand alone item so its not hard to wire, Throttle body is restrictive above 350hp, but there are plenty of aftermarket TBs for sale on Ebay.com, the rest of the manifold I have been told is capable of supporting 1400hp with turbos!!!

Fox body sump or Bronco sump has the bowl in the right pace, and I speak from experience, it all fits in a Mk1 capri and that was without cuting anything other than the slam panel to fit a Audi 100 rad, even the gear lever came up in the right place,

Im thinking the Fox 5.0 is shorter than the older 302, which may help with the rad thing, but its a serpintine system so the water pump is counter rotating which makes removing the PAS, Air con etc a bit more complicated, but not that hard, even if you revert to the older V belt system from the 302, Summit sell a short water pump assy which will easily shorten the engine by about 30mm+, There is a HUGE aftermarket for these engines, and with the right bits the lowly 302/351, can be taken out to a huge 460 cui, 7.5l , lots of cheap high flowing Alloy heads, and an easy 500hp NA engine is very feasable without much effort, than a squirt of NOs and a 750 hp engine is not impossible, Just to complicate things, you would be better off with the 302 block rather than the 5,0 if you intend making 500hp+ as the later blocks have been known to burst the lifter valley,

Later Fox Bodies came with a 4.6, Modular engine, very similar to whats in the Jag V8 and Astom Martins, dont know if they will fit in the body without cutting, in the Mustang they came with 2 or 4 cams and 2, 3 or 4 valve heads, again capable of making HUGE power with Turbos, and using motorsport parts, 1600hp and 2000 ftlbs of torque!!!!!, TWO THOUSAND ftlbs is not to be sneezed at, even stock factory they can have 500bhp .

 

Just have a look around on Google for Fox Mustang. and you will find loads, have a look on Summit Racings web site, you will be surprised how much is available and how realtivly cheap it is, example, I have just bought a NEW set of 8 QUALITY FORGED pistons for a 4,6 mod engine with rings, £300 on my doorstep, try buying a set of 4 for a Cosworth for that!!!!

BTW the pistons are not destined for a Mod Engine but a New RV8 that im building,

 

V8 EVERY TIME

[qwerty]

In a Capri I would say V8 no question! Just for the sound if nothing else haha.

[Spanner_monkey]

The V8 would sound cool. Proper mini muscle car

[xpackken]

V8 evey time, and you will probably get better fuel consumption than a tuned YB, FOX body mustang, Mustang Mk3, came with a 5.0 windsor, which is basically the same as a 302, but with injection, roller cam etc, T5 was an option, so its not hard to get 5,0 injected 5Speed mustang engine, Injection IIRC is a stand alone item so its not hard to wire, Throttle body is restrictive above 350hp, but there are plenty of aftermarket TBs for sale on Ebay.com, the rest of the manifold I have been told is capable of supporting 1400hp with turbos!!!

Fox body sump or Bronco sump has the bowl in the right pace, and I speak from experience, it all fits in a Mk1 capri and that was without cuting anything other than the slam panel to fit a Audi 100 rad, even the gear lever came up in the right place,

Im thinking the Fox 5.0 is shorter than the older 302, which may help with the rad thing, but its a serpintine system so the water pump is counter rotating which makes removing the PAS, Air con etc a bit more complicated, but not that hard, even if you revert to the older V belt system from the 302, Summit sell a short water pump assy which will easily shorten the engine by about 30mm+, There is a HUGE aftermarket for these engines, and with the right bits the lowly 302/351, can be taken out to a huge 460 cui, 7.5l , lots of cheap high flowing Alloy heads, and an easy 500hp NA engine is very feasable without much effort, than a squirt of NOs and a 750 hp engine is not impossible, Just to complicate things, you would be better off with the 302 block rather than the 5,0 if you intend making 500hp+ as the later blocks have been known to burst the lifter valley,

Later Fox Bodies came with a 4.6, Modular engine, very similar to whats in the Jag V8 and Astom Martins, dont know if they will fit in the body without cutting, in the Mustang they came with 2 or 4 cams and 2, 3 or 4 valve heads, again capable of making HUGE power with Turbos, and using motorsport parts, 1600hp and 2000 ftlbs of torque!!!!!, TWO THOUSAND ftlbs is not to be sneezed at, even stock factory they can have 500bhp .

 

Just have a look around on Google for Fox Mustang. and you will find loads, have a look on Summit Racings web site, you will be surprised how much is available and how realtivly cheap it is, example, I have just bought a NEW set of 8 QUALITY FORGED pistons for a 4,6 mod engine with rings, £300 on my doorstep, try buying a set of 4 for a Cosworth for that!!!!

BTW the pistons are not destined for a Mod Engine but a New RV8 that im building,

 

 

V8 EVERY TIME

 

 

 

very helpfull m8 but too much info for me

 

iI have been looking around on internet and its very confusing ( short engines long one ) 302s 351s etc etc

 

 

what one is best for my capri on a budget . i dont want anything brand new or out of the crate.

 

 

just found on ebay capri engine mounts prop shaft gear box mount for a small block chevy conversion ???? would this be a good option ?

 

 

[v8cortina]

It's just got to be a V8 A 302 is probably a good bet for the Capri - What ever you decide, good luck with it.

[Andrade]

I dont know much about v8s and will probably be less straight forward than a cosworth conversion but since im not the done doing it i say V8

[4-Door Pete]

The V8's natural home is between the wings of a Capri and that's coming from a pinto lover.

 

If the weight is a worry on how it would affect the handling, have you considered the Rover lump. They're as cheap as chips and can be tuned up to give loads of power.

 

good luck

Pete

[V8ian]

The engine you should be looking for is a 302/351 WINDSOR, there were earlier versions of the W, 221, 260, and 289, thats 3.7, 4.2, and 4.7, The 289 is the only one worth looing at, but they do fetch a premium as the circuit FIA racers like them,

ford also made a 302/351 CLEVELAND, real heavyweight, but a lot bigger than the W, there is also a 400M, which again is a bigger version of the C, but basically a truck engine.

puting a chevy in will probably mean the bulkhead will need cutting, and it weighs a lot more than a SBF, about 150lbs,

Rovers may be Alloy, they cost a small fortune to tune, and because of their head design, 350hp is max for a NA engine, unless you want to buy aftermarket heads,

If at a later date, you fit alloy heads to a SBF, you can get the engine to within 40lbs of the Rover