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It seems our wonderful goverment are being pressed by europe to introduce a new system for MOTs

1st Mot from new will be 4yrs then every two years .

As someone who runs a MOT station this is just another nail in the garages coffin

What do you think

Posted

Not a good idea at all!!

 

A lot of cars only just scrape thru the mot now and that is the bare minimum as well.

 

just think what two years will do to a non maintained saxo etc :shock:

 

nevermind what it will do to the garage and parts places

 

Another stupid idea from europe :roll:

Posted

I am a tester and if this comes in then expect a load more road accidents and deaths!! Id be gutted if a car that was bought new and had covered 100k in 4 years with no routine servicing and m.o.t smashed into my cars or any of yours because the bottom ball joint fell out!!!

big mistake!

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Posted

Hmmmm, I'm in two minds on this.

 

I can see why those that run MOT stations might think it's a bad idea as it obviously isn't going to be good for business and yes there's also the risk of poorly maintained cars still being on the road when they shouldn't be.

 

BUT (there's always a but right?)

 

It seems to work ok in Europe, though admittedly they may also have higher standards than us necessary to achieve a pass that will last for two years.

Posted

Bad idea, some of the stuff i have in to work on shouldn't be on the road as it is, let alone leaving it 2 years before it's checked.

 

 

The amount of times i've gone to pick up a car and found hardly any brakes on it, yet when you mention it the customers say it's always been like that it's fine !!!

 

I only do electrics diagnostics now so dont benifit from telling them to get it sorted !!

Posted

Agreed, bad idea. For a start it'd be half the regular income from MOTs and MOT work for a garage. And like somebody already said, a load of cars JUST scrape by with an advisory sheet 6 foot long. The idea should be when you get your car MOT'd. YOU should have to be MOTd as well. Why should your car be in a fitter state to be on the road than the person driving it? Eye tests, reaction tests etc, make sure both car and driver are up to standard :wink:

Posted

Bad idea. Can't tell you how many times we have had loads of welding, when a year before it was OK. Mind you, it won't stop us checking them over anyway. Also, currently you can take you car every month if you want to, as long as you pay for it! So you can still go every year if you want to. If you get a year's tax, they will tell you when to go. I know some Mk5 transits that would drop in half if left to it for 2 years. I bet they keep the class7 every year anyway.

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unforyunate for you..but some would be pleased..

 

 

wait and see will cars that are 10 years or over be required to reatin an annual test..

 

we've a similar test here in Ireland..

 

ours is a NCT (national car test)

4 year old cars take their 1 st test at their 4th anniversery

every 2 years after that...

 

 

but recently ammened to every year for cars of 10 ears or older..

 

cars of 30's years old are excempt of test.. :roll:8)

Posted

Bad idea IMO.

 

I don't think it works in Europe as I often wonder why some cars are on the road.

 

For me personally, I wouldn't want to wait 2 years to find out the car that carries my children has a fault that may not be noticeable when driving to have a mechanical failure after 18 months.

Posted

In Denmark we have those rules already - 1st mot at 4 years and after that every second year. Think cars older than 35 years is every 8 th year.

Is it every 12 mount now in UK ?

Posted

Its a fine idea - If people looked after their cars. I know i'm generalising but, A car that comes to me for an MoT and a service will get an advisory for a worn bottom balljoint (for instance). I can almost guarantee that a year later on MoT day that balljoint will have been forgotten about an would be absolutely hanging.

 

Now cars are getting more advanced people don't realise that they still wear out and just assume it'll be 'fine'

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i had a combo van come in for its mot today and no joke there was no bolts from caliper to carrier 2 were snapped and 2 were missing, both bottom ball joints were that bad my tester refused a brake test on the grounds that he didnt think it would last the test . this van was a 57 plate company van on 105,000 so im in agreement with most of you 12 months is long enough because company car drivers and general public just dont care as long as it starts and drives...........

Posted

bad idea... firstly for people like us , our buisness relys on annual service & mots, secondly the way things are out there at the mo people are reluctant to spend money on their cars so are having components renewed for the cheapest brands available, i,e a decent make brake pad we say £30 , they say euro car parts do them £14 , so a £14 set of pads are meant to last 2 years !!! unlikely .. so that car ( if its a heavy car that is notorius for brake wear like a volvo automatic ) will become dangerous way before its next mot in 2 years !!!!!

Posted
i had a combo van come in for its mot today and no joke there was no bolts from caliper to carrier 2 were snapped and 2 were missing, both bottom ball joints were that bad my tester refused a brake test on the grounds that he didnt think it would last the test . this van was a 57 plate company van on 105,000 so im in agreement with most of you 12 months is long enough because company car drivers and general public just dont care as long as it starts and drives...........

 

then prehaps the makers need to do away with 3 year from mot thing or make proper cars like old skool cars that ball joints last 20 years and brake shoes that last forever :D

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Mk2 transits don't have ball joints :D and kings pins last about 20 years too.....

 

track rod end is a type of ball joint and they have them ,

king pins will last if their greased regularly , cant see joe bloggs getting under with a grease gun somehow so not all will last 20 years :(

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well ,i say its bad and regardless of what else is said, when some young pratt goes out and buys a worn out 106, that has the last 6 months of its mot time left and he wipes out one of our cherished and well maintaind cars....

and maybe family...

he will get away with ,dude! i said sorry

wont go down well with me

mike

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i had a combo van come in for its mot today and no joke there was no bolts from caliper to carrier 2 were snapped and 2 were missing, both bottom ball joints were that bad my tester refused a brake test on the grounds that he didnt think it would last the test . this van was a 57 plate company van on 105,000 so im in agreement with most of you 12 months is long enough because company car drivers and general public just dont care as long as it starts and drives...........

 

then prehaps the makers need to do away with 3 year from mot thing or make proper cars like old skool cars that ball joints last 20 years and brake shoes that last forever :D

 

if thay made proper cars again then most of us would be out of business, the fact that parts are designed to fail or just made out of chocolate keeps people coming back in for repairs. how many of you guys service cars, advise them that there car is hanging for them to say thay are gonner sell it or its a friends car or it will have to wait untill thay get some money. people feel to safe in todays cars thay dont realise how dangerous thay could be.

Posted

They've been talking about this for a while now. It's easy to see how it could cause people be driving around in dangerous cars. A lot of people in the UK don't maintain their cars, they just wait until they fail the MOT and have the work required done to pass.

 

Here in Ontario, Canada things are very different. The equivalent of an MOT is a safety inspection. It costs about $100 (65 quid) and it is only required when a vehicle changes ownership. So you can buy a vehicle with a safety on it, or if you buy one without its up to you to make it pass. Once its been safetied and transferred to your name you never need to have it done again.

 

You do see cars driving around in some terrible states, with the sills literally rusted away to nothing, and rear arched rusted all the way up to the boot lid. But overall there doesn't seem to be that many accidents as a result. Even when car parts are worn out beyond MOT passing standard they can still continue to function for years and years. The vast majority of accidents are still caused by driver error, usually not leaving enough stopping distance so when something happens you get 3 or 4 cars all smashed up.

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in all honsty, the 12months we get is a long enough time for any old car to come to a state that it shouldnt be on the road....

you think, 6months of winter, salt and grime on the roads etc, used daily an osf could rot through a spring hanger, seatbelt mount, seat mount easily to a dangerous level.....

i like my MOT's, i will hate them every year, but i do like them, the idea of them that is!

they keep you and your family/any other passenger/any other driver on the road safe, end of!

 

for arguments sake, FORD KA! old shape.

lower arms, and springs....

we had 2 ford ka's in the family, in 3 years we replaced 3 sets of lower arms, and a total of 7 springs.....

 

erm.... yes! we only knew of these because of the MOT's, and only did them because of the MOT's....

and i tell you what, when you can kick the front wheel of the car, and you can literally push it back into the arch liner because of the play in the lower arms, and the driver is non the wiser, that aint safe!

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