Classic Ford 2016 or not so Classic any more

[Vista]

Discussion like this always polarises opinion!

 

I for one certainly think that 1980's classic Fords should be both in Classic Ford Mag and at the show, it is Classic Ford Mag / Show not Old Skool Ford Mag / Show. 1996 is a step too far though as it dilutes the genuine classic content significantly with early 90's cars being recognizably from a very different era to the rest of the show.

[colr6]

Think the general opinion is a classic Ford is a RWD Ford and also a proper OLD SKOOL FORD and that's it end of!

[accord83]

I've been on the sidelines of this thread because I've never been to the show, the simple answer would be have a rwd/fwd split on the field. Regarding Modified and standard argument, my Escort is no where near standard but in theory it wouldn't pull the dick off a chocolate soldier, it wasn't built for high speed or the 1/4, it was built as a fun car to get around the Dales swiftly. Quick to rev 1360 with low gearing, lowered -2 at the front, -1 at the rear, it is ideal for it. My Manta is a mint bog standard automatic for more sedate drives and shows. Regarding age of cars, I had a Standard Flying 12 in a show, the bloke next to me had an MG Magnette, a young lad rolled in driving a 23 yr old Fiesta on L plates with his mother along side him. Mr MG went apeshit about it. I asked him if his MG was older than he was, it wasn't. The Fiesta was 6yrs older than the lad driving it, so in his eyes a generation away. Bring on the younger guys or our hobby will become full of old farts who will be of the "The older I get the faster I was" brigade. There is room for every one if space is made, we were all little sods once, we just grew a bit bigger (into big sods?)

[nigelslater44.ns]

We are all guilty of being biased to the type of car we drive.

As I said in my previously I visit this forum because I love old Fords. I know that this site is aimed at the older RWD Ford models but the topic is about the Classic Ford show. Some people have strong opinions regarding the age limit, however as time moves on so does the age of newer cars. This means at some point FWD cars from the early 80s which are 35 years old by age are seen as classic cars.

They are not going to be the same as old skool, but deserve some respect.

If you have for example a 1979 Fiesta 1300s, that complies with this forum, but a 1982 Fiesta Supersport doesn't. However both are getting rare and are FWD. Ford changed to FWD and still are today, that is why my own car is FWD.

The Classic Ford show is big enough for all cars of classic status.

You are not forced to look at cars that you are not interested in, but give the owners of such cars the credit they deserve for keeping these cars alive!

They like myself have spent a small fortune preserving and maintaining there cars just like yourselves.

Hope to meet some of you over the coming year

[Vista]

If you have for example a 1979 Fiesta 1300s, that complies with this forum, but a 1982 Fiesta Supersport doesn't. 

 

Actually that's not true, our rule of thumb is that the model must have been in production in 1980, not the specific car. Both cars you state are fine.

[dalmarshall]

A supersport does as the mk1 fiesta was in production pre 1980.

I like plenty of post 1980 fwd fords, mk1 supersport, xr2, S1 RS TURBO, 3 dr sierra cosworth (RWD but post 1980).

It's the mk5 escorts, mk3 and 4 fiestas, ka's, on ions, mundano's etc that are going to be boring to most. Just my opinion, no offence to whatever nigel may drive (mk4 xr3i)??

[nigelslater44.ns]

Yes you've got it, I drive a modified mk4 escort xr3i cabriolet.

I stand corrected on the fiesta example, but more to the point they are FWD.

If all our cars were the same, how boring would car shows be?

[stuartp]

fine by me - i might come in my sierra next year

[john123]

why rip yourself apart if you dont like them dont look at them live and let live what is a clasic to one might not be to another as long as there is space for all lets have a nice day i find more problems with the autojumble there is not enough parts for us old car owners

[Audicab26]

lol i love the debate its normaly after the show is held i love organising my own show where all classic fords are welcome and its free

Hi John,

 

I am keen to show my Escort in 2016. When and where is your show held please?

 

Thank you

 

Derek

[Audicab26]

The 'what constitutes a classic' debate will always rage on. I imagine people who own 1930's MG's might not consider my 1979 Ford much of a classic?

 

I get that this forum caters only for Old School Fords which is why I joined. But the term Classic is often open to interpretation.

 

To a 20 year old a 1996 car probably feels like a classic or at least a 'modern classic'. For the record all my sons teenage mates think my completely standard Escort Ghia is really cool (they might be humouring me) but as it cost me more than a new Dacia to acquire I doubt many of them will be buying one for themselves anytime soon.

 

If youngsters are all labelled chavs and they're efforts derided there will be no classic car movement in years to come. A lot of young adults have been priced off the the road and just as many are not interested in cars. So if someone has made the effort to get an 'older' car, spend money on it and bring it to a show then they should be welcomed. They probably 'get' our passion for our cars so we should probably return the courtesy?

 

I've never been to the Classic Ford Show and I only get the mag on occasions but surely it's big enough to display the different cars in their own sections to please all?

 

As a car lover I enjoy chatting to the enthusiastic owners of all cars new and old. As someone who sold new Fords from the late 80's up to 2006 I would have to say that SOME of the cars we launched in that era were terrible (MK5 Escort, Fusion, Maverick, Scorpio) but even they have a following which should be encouraged. Others like the Ka, Puma, Mk1 Focus and Mk1 Mondeo were groundbreaking (for Ford) in design and the way they drove etc so were really important milestones for Ford.

 

I got my car because I grew up with them - my Dad had them and I drove them as a teen. If every car lover did the same and why not? Then your going to get a few mid 90's cars rocking up at shows.

 

Not looking to ruffle feathers or start an argument but just offering my own point of view which I know and respect will be different from others.

 

Happy new year.

[mk2 mike]

The 'what constitutes a classic' debate will always rage on. I imagine people who own 1930's MG's might not consider my 1979 Ford much of a classic?

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I know what you mean. My mate owns a 1930s F1 car and a couple of cars from the turn of the 1900s and I always feel embarrassed mentioning my 'old' escort in front of him lol

[colr6]

To be honest so would I ................only joking lol

[BaileyMex]

Love this old topic, its come up many many times over the ten years we have been going.

 

Of the three cars I own, two are Ford, one is the Mex and in my opinion is 100% the perfect example of what sort of Old Skool Ford we cater for and should be at CF Show.

 

I also have a modified ST220 which in my opinion is NOT an OSF and I would never dream of taking it to CF show!!!

 

Just my opinion but as I have a plastic FWD and a proper RWD OSF I have no bias just my own opinion

 

I thank you ;o)

[Daddio]

tbh I get both sides of the argument but I could probably live with newer cars if it meant the price got cheaper for everyone and the access was better. Adding more cars to the mix will simply cause more problems so we'll enjoy the show less - and it will have nothing to do with the metalwork on display.

I like CFShow because it is CFShow and not a load of new stuff. I still hurt my neck when I see a mk3 or 4 escort or an old sierra in town, but they have their shows. This does seem to be a money-spinner for the organisers imho.

Baileymex, like your choice of motors. I have an ST220 as well (un-modded) plus a mk2 more-door, and although I live in Kettering I grew up in Streatham. I have to admit to taking the ST to CF Show otherwise I'd need to walk 'cos the mrs doesn't understand these things and won't attend. Soppy mare!