BaileyMex Posted July 20, 2022 Report Posted July 20, 2022 Obviously this stiff exists for a reason, to reduce temperature in the engine bay by containing manifold heat within. But, in real world experiences, do people generally think it makes that much difference for a road car? never used it personally. And if so, how many metres did you get through wrapping a manifold? hard to gauge how many metres it would take 15m, 25m? CheeRS
Moderator Rally Pack 2000 Posted July 20, 2022 Moderator Report Posted July 20, 2022 Ceramic coating sort of replaces it now and looks much nicer.
BaileyMex Posted July 21, 2022 Author Report Posted July 21, 2022 Yeah I've heard of that, but I suspect it costs a bomb, and the manifold is a 15 year old Ashley (with repairs 🤣), so probably not worth the investment in ceramic coating.
BIG G Posted July 21, 2022 Report Posted July 21, 2022 Heat wrap works well, but looks awfull if not done tidy. Always apply when the wrap is really wet and keep it tight and overlap by 50% or more to layer it up. I dont like ceramic coating due to cost and that if not done right can just fall off and gets damaged easily plus wrapping looks more Oldskool IMHO especially if you use the black graphite stuff 1
Miniliteman Posted July 21, 2022 Report Posted July 21, 2022 For a race car it is of use to keep the under bonnet temps down a bit. For a road car don't. Have seen a couple of road cars with the stuff a year or so after they put it on. The wrap keeps water / moist in contact with the manifold which then becaomes brittle / rust away in no time. 1
BaileyMex Posted July 21, 2022 Author Report Posted July 21, 2022 Cheers both Gordy, do you remember how many metres you used to wrap a typical 4 branch? Miniliteman, yeah I'd heard about getting them wet, certainly something to bear in mind 👍
Admin Vista Posted July 21, 2022 Admin Report Posted July 21, 2022 Ceramic coating for me. Had it done on both the RS and the van. Made a difference on the van in particular. Only worth doing on a new manifold though Don't like wrap, retains moisture and rots out the manifold. 1
BIG G Posted July 21, 2022 Report Posted July 21, 2022 40 minutes ago, BaileyMex said: Cheers both Gordy, do you remember how many metres you used to wrap a typical 4 branch? Miniliteman, yeah I'd heard about getting them wet, certainly something to bear in mind 👍 I bought two rolls from what i remember Colin but cant think what the meterage was? , as for rotting out the manifold as some have stated then i doubt the millage and seasons you drive in will cause this.
BaileyMex Posted July 21, 2022 Author Report Posted July 21, 2022 39 minutes ago, BIG G said: I bought two rolls from what i remember Colin but cant think what the meterage was? , as for rotting out the manifold as some have stated then i doubt the millage and seasons you drive in will cause this. Cheers Yeah, it doesn't really get wet that often and out in wet and raining conditions.
Moderator Rally Pack 2000 Posted July 21, 2022 Moderator Report Posted July 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Vista said: Ceramic coating for me. Had it done on both the RS and the van. Made a difference on the van in particular. Only worth doing on a new manifold though Don't like wrap, retains moisture and rots out the manifold. While it may not be worth doing on older branch manifolds its definitely worth doing on original cast ones. The RS and Cortina ones are particularly prone to cracking with the main cause being temperature variations from inside and out. The ceramic coating contains more heat within and supposedly improves efficiency but it keeps the heat in so that the manifold cools down very slowly which sudden cooling is what causes them to crack. I have found mine still quite warm hours after switching the engine off. The added benefit is you don't have a rusty looking manifold. I chose silver to match the thermostat housing and other shiny alloy bits but just get it black if you want something more subdued. 1
Miniliteman Posted July 21, 2022 Report Posted July 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Rally Pack 2000 said: The added benefit is you don't have a rusty looking manifold. I chose silver to match the thermostat housing and other shiny alloy bits but just get it black if you want something more subdued. Ahhh my eyes ... too shiney. I wonder why you haven't fitted chromed overriders to your bumpers!
chinkamon Posted July 21, 2022 Report Posted July 21, 2022 10 hours ago, BaileyMex said: Cheers both Gordy, do you remember how many metres you used to wrap a typical 4 branch? Miniliteman, yeah I'd heard about getting them wet, certainly something to bear in mind 👍 I bought 5cm x 15m titanium wrap which done my 4 branch (precrossflow GT) manifold nicely still had a fair bit left over. I've used it on many of my car's over the years never had any issues yet. Since found locking wire is a neater way to fasten it rather than the metal ties unless you have the correct tool
chinkamon Posted July 21, 2022 Report Posted July 21, 2022 It wrapped all of that, down to about 2 foot under the car ( I got bored then)
Moderator Rally Pack 2000 Posted July 22, 2022 Moderator Report Posted July 22, 2022 10 hours ago, Miniliteman said: Ahhh my eyes ... too shiney. I wonder why you haven't fitted chromed overriders to your bumpers! It does seem bright when you first get it done but a few heat cycles and it does dull quite a bit without actually discolouring or going blue in places like stainless.
BaileyMex Posted July 22, 2022 Author Report Posted July 22, 2022 11 hours ago, chinkamon said: I bought 5cm x 15m titanium wrap which done my 4 branch (precrossflow GT) manifold nicely still had a fair bit left over. I've used it on many of my car's over the years never had any issues yet. Since found locking wire is a neater way to fasten it rather than the metal ties unless you have the correct tool Cheers mate, any pics of it finished?
piekey Posted July 22, 2022 Report Posted July 22, 2022 We tried 2 different makes of wrap on a 4 into 1 pre x flow manifold, after both makes broke up & fell off. We had manifold blasted & coated just outside Horsham Hi-speccoatings.co.uk Wesley is the very he.pful guy to talk to. 0203002 0067 Not only does it look the nutz it has cut down under bonnet temps by loads. Also no corrosion. 1
chinkamon Posted July 23, 2022 Report Posted July 23, 2022 On 22/07/2022 at 08:50, BaileyMex said: Cheers mate, any pics of it finished? I haven't unfortunately I'll try an get one Sunday night as not near the car til then 1
chinkamon Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 On 22/07/2022 at 08:50, BaileyMex said: Cheers mate, any pics of it finished? Not the best photos sorry, but not the best job either, I wrapped the two middle pipes as one as was an ass to do in place, leaning over the wing with my legs in the air ( I'm only short) Didn't want to try my luck removing the manifold as the bolts are bound to snap on me an there wouldn't be enough swear words in the world to help me through that 🤣
BaileyMex Posted July 25, 2022 Author Report Posted July 25, 2022 Nice one mate, looks tidy enough from those pics 👍 1
chinkamon Posted July 25, 2022 Report Posted July 25, 2022 4 hours ago, BaileyMex said: Nice one mate, looks tidy enough from those pics 👍 Don't put your glasses on and look again though 😂 1
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