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RS1600 EBAY SCAM WARNING - This has all the hallmarks

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antz Old Skool Keyboard Molester

antz

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I emailed him this. Not had a reply yet :(

 

Hi.

 

I hope you realise you're trying to sell a very well known car. A link to the auction has been circulated around a lot of popular car websites, and people will continue to bid silly amounts of money until you stop listing it.

 

The *real* owner of the car is aware you're doing it, and has even placed a bid.

 

Oh, and you've been reported to ebay too.

 

Good luck with your sale. :wink:

 

nice one mike!

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Vista Old Skool Keyboard Molester

Vista

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Here's a response given to Mexicomark on the AVO site

 

The 1972 FORD ESCORT RS 1600 YELLOW is in perfect working condition.It's in showroom condition, no scratches, no dents, accident-free,no outstanding finance,full service history, HPI clear.The problem is that in the meanwhile I had to move with my family in Rotterdam,Netherlands where I got a new job as a construction engineer. I brought the car here with me with the intention of driving it but when I found out about the very high import duties and all the restrictions regarding registration and emissions tests here I have made up my mind and decided to sell the vehicle.It still has UK registration, cos I didn't paid for Netherlands import. The car meets United Kindom DOT and EPA guidelines so there will be no problems regarding UK Customs policy on receiving the car.

 

Usually shipment takes maximum 5 to 7 days depending on your location and will be fully insured against damages,shipped in a crated container.....on my cost!!

 

If, by any reason, you will not be satisfied with it ( even though I can assure you that it is exactly as described), you can return it at my expense for a full refund of your money, no questions asked. I think this is more than fair for the both of us.

 

Final price is £4,000.00 (this price includes the shipping and insurance).

Let me know if you realy are interested.

Best Regard Jerome Kornfeld

bomber1 Old Skool Keyboard Molester

bomber1

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How about listing an identical auction but saying 'the other seller of this car is a scammer'?

 

theres a lot of people that dont go on the forums so good idea tho bet ur add gets pulled and his dosent :evil:

MK5 Old Skool to the bone

MK5

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just had this e-mail

 

 

The sale will be managed by eBay for our own protection as they act as

a neutral third party. Look how this works:

 

1. I will contact eBay and give all the info about this deal.

2. They will email us the forms which are needed for our deal.

3. You’ll send the money to eBay and they will notify me to ship the

car to your location.

4. After you will inspect the car and decide to keep it, eBay will

forward me the funds.

Remember you have 7 days to test it. If by any reason the car is not as

described or if you find any problems with it I will pay for the

returning fees. I'm sure it won't be the case because it's a state of

art looking and working vehicle. I apologize if it seems like I'm

pushing on this deal but I really want to be sure everything is

clarified before any further steps.

 

I will initiate the transaction through ebay and in the next 12 hours

they will contact you with transaction details, invoice, payment

instructions, and buyer’s protection policy. Just wait for eBay instructions.

Please go thru them exactly!!!

In case you did not receive their message please let me know

ZetecVan 2.0 Old Skool Keyboard Molester

ZetecVan 2.0

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just had this e-mail

 

 

The sale will be managed by eBay for our own protection as they act as

a neutral third party. Look how this works:

 

1. I will contact eBay and give all the info about this deal.

2. They will email us the forms which are needed for our deal.

3. You’ll send the money to eBay and they will notify me to ship the

car to your location.

4. After you will inspect the car and decide to keep it, eBay will

forward me the funds.

Remember you have 7 days to test it. If by any reason the car is not as

described or if you find any problems with it I will pay for the

returning fees. I'm sure it won't be the case because it's a state of

art looking and working vehicle. I apologize if it seems like I'm

pushing on this deal but I really want to be sure everything is

clarified before any further steps.

 

I will initiate the transaction through ebay and in the next 12 hours

they will contact you with transaction details, invoice, payment

instructions, and buyer’s protection policy. Just wait for eBay instructions.

Please go thru them exactly!!!

In case you did not receive their message please let me know

 

Since when did ebay do this? This is a typical escrow scam. You get directed to a fake site which looks like ebay, it takes your card details and claims to be a third party acting independently.

 

Have a read of this, how to scam the scammer : http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/

 

How about listing an identical auction but saying 'the other seller of this car is a scammer'?

 

theres a lot of people that dont go on the forums so good idea tho bet ur add gets pulled and his dosent :evil:

 

Worth a try though.

Jay_harrier Old Skool Tool Polisher

Jay_harrier

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Same for me - my response:

 

Jerome,

 

Thanks for the e-mail, there seems to be some strange activity on ebay, I would still very much like to view the car before proceeding, Is the car in the UK?

 

I am a collector of classic Fords & this is a very rare opportunity.

 

I am very keen to secure this vehicle, please provide me full details of your address, contact details & an account where I can place a deposit. I do need proof of ownership - a scan of the V5/registration document should suffice. I have run a HPi/DVLA check against the vehicle - please confirm the previous owners name.

 

Please call me on 07900 ******* to initiate the deposit transfer,

 

Kind regards,

 

Justin W******

 

 

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jerome kornfeld wrote:

 

The 1972 FORD ESCORT RS 1600 YELLOW is in perfect working condition.It's in showroom condition, no scratches, no dents, accident-free,no outstanding finance,full service history, HPI clear.The problem is that in the meanwhile I had to move with my family in Rotterdam,Netherlands where I got a new job as a construction engineer. I brought the car here with me with the intention of driving it but when I found out about the very high import duties and all the restrictions regarding registration and emissions tests here I have made up my mind and decided to sell the vehicle.It still has UK registration, cos I didn't paid for Netherlands import. The car meets United Kindom DOT and EPA guidelines so there will be no problems regarding UK Customs policy on receiving the car.

 

Usually shipment takes maximum 5 to 7 days depending on your location and will be fully insured against damages,shipped in a crated container.....on my cost!!

 

If, by any reason, you will not be satisfied with it ( even though I can assure you that it is exactly as described), you can return it at my expense for a full refund of your money, no questions asked. I think this is more than fair for the both of us.

 

Final price is £4,000.00 (this price includes the shipping and insurance).

Let me know if you realy are interested.

Best Regard Jerome Kornfeld

 

 

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MK5 Old Skool to the bone

MK5

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So he must contact you with account details very soon, does the ebay account you bought it with have your personal details on it?

 

i haven't bought it!!

Jay_harrier Old Skool Tool Polisher

Jay_harrier

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And another one, I've cut his part, bet he thinks he's hooked a beauty!

 

Hi Jerome, I have used Escow clearing houses myself and have an agent in Holland who deals with my European business,

 

Before I am prepared to proceed you have to provide me with some proof of authenticity of the vehicle which you have failed to do so far, I have to ask myself why is this? Do you realise the true value of this vehicle?

 

You must understand that a vehicle of this heritage having full history & being completed untouched is quite a find. I am prepared to fly out tomorrow afternoon with the full asking price but you must provide a document of some description before I do this.

 

My agent in Rotterdam is also very helpful & could arrange to verify the paperwork if you would prefer - they have full authority to act on my behalf.

 

Contact Details

 

Fortis Escrow

Coolsingel 93

3012 AD

Rotterdam

 

Phone: +31 10 401 58 56

Fax: +31 10 401 62 25

 

Regards

 

Justin

Jay_harrier Old Skool Tool Polisher

Jay_harrier

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ebay e-mail is from ukrswebhelp@ebay.co.uk

 

from e-mail header

 

"X-Sender: ukrswebhelp@ukreply-ebay.com

User-Agent: Web-Based Email 4.9.17

X-Originating-IP: 172.183.221.236"

 

IP is an AOL one....

 

Hmmm, interesting, spoofed e-mail, pretty much all of ebay is on the 66.x.x.x IP range.

 

If I thought it'd do any good I'd fill his mailbox but he'll just open another one for the next scam. :sad:

Wessie Old Skool Keyboard Molester

Wessie

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The 1972 FORD ESCORT RS 1600 YELLOW is in perfect working condition.It's in showroom condition, no scratches, no dents, accident-free,no outstanding finance,full service history, HPI clear.The problem is that in the meanwhile I had to move with my family in Rotterdam,Netherlands where I got a new job as a construction engineer. I brought the car here with me with the intention of driving it but when I found out about the very high import duties and all the restrictions regarding registration and emissions tests here I have made up my mind and decided to sell the vehicle.It still has UK registration, cos I didn't paid for Netherlands import. The car meets United Kindom DOT and EPA guidelines so there will be no problems regarding UK Customs policy on receiving the car.

 

Usually shipment takes maximum 5 to 7 days depending on your location and will be fully insured against damages,shipped in a crated container.....on my cost!!

 

If, by any reason, you will not be satisfied with it ( even though I can assure you that it is exactly as described), you can return it at my expense for a full refund of your money, no questions asked. I think this is more than fair for the both of us.

 

Final price is £4,000.00 (this price includes the shipping and insurance).

Let me know if you realy are interested.

Best Regard Jerome Kornfeld

 

 

THATS THE EMAIL I GOT :evil:

60ftman Old Skool Tool Polisher

60ftman

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The 1972 FORD ESCORT RS 1600 YELLOW is in perfect working condition.It's in showroom condition, no scratches, no dents, accident-free,no outstanding finance,full service history, HPI clear.The problem is that in the meanwhile I had to move with my family in Rotterdam,Netherlands where I got a new job as a construction engineer. I brought the car here with me with the intention of driving it but when I found out about the very high import duties and all the restrictions regarding registration and emissions tests here I have made up my mind and decided to sell the vehicle.It still has UK registration, cos I didn't paid for Netherlands import. The car meets United Kindom DOT and EPA guidelines so there will be no problems regarding UK Customs policy on receiving the car.

 

Usually shipment takes maximum 5 to 7 days depending on your location and will be fully insured against damages,shipped in a crated container.....on my cost!!

 

If, by any reason, you will not be satisfied with it ( even though I can assure you that it is exactly as described), you can return it at my expense for a full refund of your money, no questions asked. I think this is more than fair for the both of us.

 

Final price is £4,000.00 (this price includes the shipping and insurance).

Let me know if you realy are interested.

Best Regard Jerome Kornfeld

 

 

THATS THE EMAIL I GOT :evil:

E-mail him and say that you'll be in the Netherlands over the next couple of weeks and would like to view the car with the intention of paying cash and driving away.

Somehow I bet he doesn't reply!

 

There used to be a guy on ebay preporting to be in Italy (though advertising parts 'located in London') who was 'selling' performance parts.

I asked if I could come to Italy and view, as did quite a few others.

He disappeared very quickly. :twisted:

Johnson Old Skool to the bone

Johnson

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wessie, he sent me the same reply :roll:

 

 

Ive sent him this.....

 

I am still very interested in the escort, and if its as mint as you say it is, I will definitely take it at that price. Providing it isn’t already sold I want first refusal.

How did you want payment to be made and would it be possible to make a deposit to secure the car? If there is a number I could contact you on and arrange the delivery etc.

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