john123 Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 i would have thought one of the main contributers to all this hanging around with a video camera at exits to meets who just says NOT ME I AM ONLY GETTING PICTURES OF CARS LEAVING A MEET would have replyied to this thread lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khanlad Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 He doesnt stand there with a sign saying pull out like a cock so i can film you? If people are going to do it they will, you have great crowds of people standing watching too, are they to blame aswell? The way i see it is we drive the cars we do because they are a blast from our past, our youth, when every junction was an excuse to pull out at 6000 rpm one wheel spinning, every set of traffic lights was a 0 to 60 test, every bit of dual carriageway an excuse for top speed test! I would imagine that none of our cars are incredibly practical or economical, so we drive them for fun, re live a bit of our youth, theres a time and place for hooning around, from being on here i would say most of us enjoy it, but if we are not careful the nanny state we live in is going to put an end to all of it, and we'll only have ourselves to blame? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john123 Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 they do at the meetings i have arranged its got nothing to do with the nanny state its got to do with do you want people doing burnouts screaming past your door all night up to 10.30 and smoking the tyres so you cant even see the pub from the other side of the venue i pointed out 4 cars in the field the other night to some one who all these people were great drivers who had most of there front ends smashed up on leaving meetings but just so lucky no one was hurt the strangest thing of all the most behaved place on earth is santa pod i have never seen anyone pull in the gate and do a burnout i wonder why because they would be thrown out perhaps you should get some of the trouble some of us organiseres get trying to get a venue where we can meet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie956 Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 I think the situation could be helped with the location of these meets i fully understand its not easy to find somewhere to put these things together and keep them going, You will not get any help from the police or council as they can not associate them selves with whats conciddered as anti social behaviour, but if you where on an industrial estate or none residential area where no complaints are recived im pritty sure you would get left alone. I personally like seeing cars being driven and the odd burn out i dont see as a major problem, how ever dont agree when people just driving by get caught up in it, i have seen box hill videos with a few near misses people pulling out at speed and getting pritty close to cars just driving by. I think the OSF scene is mainly made up of reasonabley sensible people and i dont see what i consider as dangerous driving may be annoying to some but not dangerous, the shear cost of these cars now prevents the real idiots from getting involved just be thankfull for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john123 Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 i think at the end of the day if we keep burying our head in the sand and continuing our hobby will be destroyed why would we want to go down the route of having secret meetings only giving out the place where we are going half hour before it takes a lot to arrange a meeting and then try to get people to behave please rember all we do is for the love of having a meeting not trying to spoil peoples fun why let a minority spoil it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishtorag Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Well I agree with a lot of the comments so far with the exception of the video camera crew one ! As said in the post earlier maybe a pre reg system and all details to the local pc plod will weed out the A holes a bit quicker and make for a good meet.There are probably more boy and girl racers viewing such gatherings that cause a lot more hassle thinking they have an osf for the night as there aint nowt like the sound of a nice exhaust to get the hormones flying.... kenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iandq Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 I don't agree that people are getting high and mighty, personally I like a bit of action, but if it's going to jeopardise a meet then I would rather have the meet go on than have a bit of tyre smoke. the local authorities and the fuzz will not get involved with organising or supervising events, why? because they don't have to ( if they did there would be all sorts of duty of care issues anyway ) it's easier for them to just ban events if they get troublesome. so like people have already said, we need to police this ourselves to preserve our activities. a couple of months ago at a local meet ( boxhill, surrey ) there was a guy in a bike engine mk2 escort, he spent most of the morning driving around near the event burning up one wheel, it got annoying after a while, it wasn't impressive, a bit pathetic really, the people at the food outlet were getting annoyed, and this is what we don't need. I am not the fun police, just keep it sensible........ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john123 Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 its funny when the police last came to my meeting which gets well over 200 cars at it all the people standing around the gate left i asked them where they were all going would they not like to speak to the police but no i spent over an hour trying to get them not to close the meet down in future and another 5 e mailes when i got home from the local police asking for all future meets times i had to convince them that i could get people to behave the police on arriving at the venue said he was one of the police officers who closed the guilford cruise i spoke to him and asked them rather than close the event could they not send someone along to police it the reply was they had better things to do than police car events but now a change in the law has brought new threats to our hobby that they can close events whether we like it or not i have been arranging meets for years and dont want to see them closed by a minority QUITE SIMPLE IF YOU DONT LIKE THE RULES GO SOMEWHERE ELSE i have been acused of making my car meet boring by trying to have no burnouts but still get over 200 cars at a midweek event as for the people who stand at the gate they just egg people on to drive like idiots 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicwhitey Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 could you ask the council to put a few small speed humps in the raod outside the pub? surely that would scupper burn out attempts. mind you, youd probably have to pay for them yourself. ive only been to one of your meet John and really enjoyed it. i dont see the need for arsing about on the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy a Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 It's sad that meets are in danger through "enthusiasts" actions, and it's something that's been going on for years, back in the early 90's local police started using an obscure law to ticket young lads who were driving like idiots in a town centre at night, it was one that dated back to the days of the horse and carriage, was called "furious driving", and ended up in a £400 fine and plenty of points on your licence, once a few had been dished out (I managed to get one for driving lick a fluffy bunny, fair play) things calmed down. Maybe it's time people either accept responsibility for their own actions rather than mess things up for everybody (I don't include myself in that, I don't get time to attend meets these days), you only have to take a look on Youtube to see that sooner or later someone is going to get hurt, people pulling out of car parks into traffic doing burnouts is an accident waiting to happen, watch a few of these clips, see the evasive action that traffic, and in some case pedestrians have to take to avoid these idiots, and you can see why people are complaining. As for the landlord at the pub where cars are filmed regularly going sideways towards the pub wall, customers cars and some badly out of control as they head towards the bend in the road, that poor sod must be pulling his hair out, at the end of the day it's his living, if the meets are stopped his income goes out of the window, if you turned up where these people work and started annoying the neighbours something would soon be said, so why not show some common sense, and a bit of courtesy, towards him, and people who live close by, it shouldn't be down to the police to turn up and make sure people leave sensibly, once you get to the stage where you need them there you've admitted the idiots can't be controlled, and that's when things aren't looking rosy, similarly why should a pub landlord have to look at getting speedhumps put in the road, wouldn't it be easier if people didn't drive like Apple Pies, ? No doubt things will carry on as they are until a point is reached where meets are shut down, then the first to moan will be those who do the burnouts for the cameras, but it's hard to claim you're being victimised these days, especially when you have people standing filming your actions and uploading them online, self policing is the answer, maybe take a second to think how your actions reflect on "the scene" and act accordingly, it's called behaving like an adult... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 it was one that dated back to the days of the horse and carriage, was called "furious driving", and ended up in a £400 fine and plenty of points on your licence, once a few had been dished out (I managed to get one for driving lick a fluffy bunny, fair play) things calmed down. If you have to get points and a fine, "furious driving" sounds a lot better than "SP50" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT36 Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Danish, I bet you give it a "blip" driving past Weatherspoons in Blackwood on a sunny day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khanlad Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 What's driving lick a fluffy bunny? Have the filter police been out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT36 Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 It's true. Saw one myself... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piekey Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 If all these wannabe boy racers like to drive there cars hard, fine, go & book into a track day ! Even cheaper is Autosolo (£35 for the day) all legal , you won't smash your car up or better still, piss anyone off.. Get off the public highway & you can teach yourself how to drive in that way, simples. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pack 2000 Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Well I agree with a lot of the comments so far with the exception of the video camera crew one ! As said in the post earlier maybe a pre reg system and all details to the local pc plod will weed out the A holes a bit quicker and make for a good meet.There are probably more boy and girl racers viewing such gatherings that cause a lot more hassle thinking they have an osf for the night as there aint nowt like the sound of a nice exhaust to get the hormones flying.... kenny I couldnt aggree to having my details handed over to police in advance sorry. Thats just putting the cross hairs straight onto everyone. Someone does something silly long after you left the event and you then have the cops knocking at everyones door giving them the third degree. Civil liberties are a thing of the past and paranoid Authorities love to build data bases and they already do it without any help but your shooting yourself in the foot if you go around providing them with your information in advance. If an organiser wants to name the offending party if something warrants them to do so then thats fine but no need to pre-empt anyones guilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Wot a great topic , I am 46 from South London home to the street racer in a classic ford , and yes it's all about the car and performance so speed burnouts sideways go hand in hand , was glad to live so close to a family engine builder ! With my car nearing completion I cannot wait to drive after so long , and wen I do if I even get a whiff of spin it mate , that's me done , i am weak I know , years ago we had all these problems with plod an so on , so used to have meets on industrial estates with no probs , it's s hard issue that has no answer if it not a classic it's a bike or billy big spuds saxo , cheers Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2512pf Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 It seems straight forward to me if you want to do burn outs , drive sideways do it on a track or a private rd where people are not going to get hurt or other drivers get there cars damaged. Im not a big fan of the boys in blue but rules are rules on public highways so to avoid points and expensive fines drive within the law simple!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishtorag Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 But then again most of us bought the old cars were had fun in or couldn't afford back in the day to relive our youth . If we wanted to drive within the law without fun we would have bought a ford model T to be honest, the main thing is stated time and again... abide by the wishes of the even organiser and or venue owner ..do your broad sides or lay down your 11's in your own time and space but most of all drive safely and happily in your OSF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khanlad Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 As soon as im near my car im a boy ,thats why i got one again, but if youre going to go to the various meets and are asked not to drive like a dick, respect the wishes of people who organise or allow us to meet there, its not hard! Drive like a tool somewhere else 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettp Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 As above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vista Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Now the Ace Cafe under threat of closure, though our (this site) experience of the ACE was that they continued to advertise events in our name when we had no involvement with them, then blamed us when said events got out of hand. Who remembers this from 2011? We'd ceased involvement with them almost 3 years previous to this. http://www.ace-cafe-london.com/news_article/218.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalmarshall Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Never been to an ace cafe meet and never will whether it closes or not! The you tube vids put me off of going there......wannabe stuntmen on bikes and in cars close to parked up cars. Seen a few of people hitting other people's cars etc. Definately not somewhere I'd like to put my car....or myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddy Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 I went to one of Johns events on Sunday , and what a great meet it was too . I could not believe the amount of showboating I could hear from the field for at least an hour before I left . I am not averse to a bit of a slide when leaving ,but it sounded like these guys were doing full on anti lag rolling burnouts, John you have my sympathy . puddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colr6 Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Looking at the Jolly Farmer vid there was a few dickheads leaving that meet. Don't know the area but looked like a village pub,narrow road with quite a bit of traffic. There were a few people stood nearby which did not look as though they had come to see the cars more like residents, A very peaceful evening they had!! There's no wonder they get the meets banned 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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