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all cars should have a yearly mot regardless of age or mileage! sorry just my opinion  when the exemption was first announced someone told me that he thought it was a good idea as he wouldnt have to worry about little things like worn track rod ends and little bits of welding to which i replied yes and thats exactly the reason why we should have a yearly mot

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Would say most of the historics are to a good standard, well safe standard. But there's always the few who abuse the system and it's something you'll never stop so the continuation of mots on these Wll be here to stay I think

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Totally agree. I would rather know mine had a valid mot certificate and everything was good to go. Even tho it's completley rebuilt.☺

 

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Testers know when you take them in if there ok without beating the living day lights out of things. Even some of the young lads who do the testing are quite impressed so don't get the books out and start splitting hairs as the old cars don't compete on certain things

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Exempt or not I'd always like a professional tester do go over it-common sense to a lot of us but to others its just a few quid saved regardless of consequences-daft if you ask me.

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Exempt or not I'd always like a professional tester do go over it-common sense to a lot of us 

 

I agree, and while an MOT doesn't prove the car was OK on the day of an accident, it at least shows you had its condition independently checked within the last year. Especially for those of us who do a lot of our own work.

 

To quote my electrician course tutor - when in doubt imagine explaining yourself to a judge! 

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While I concede our system may be a bit lax in comparison but in the same respect we dont have cars suffering the level of decay that comes with your winters. I think this timed MOT thing would lend itself to petty knit picking and over scrutiny. By their nature older classics are much simpler cars than modern counterparts. This means if the inspection is timed set they are going to be dwelling on areas of the car for longer since there is so little to look at. Add to that the smart ar*e factor where the knowledge of the 20 somethings doing the test have no idea the unique needs and workings of the classics. I have personally had this happen to me even with our less comprehensive tests. He knocked me back on the leaf spring bushes claiming they were worn. He proceeded to sick a screw driver into the rear shackle bush to highlight a gap there. I said of course there is as the rear bush is not fully cylindrical and more of a triangle arrangement where the bush only touched the shackle at three points and he was putting his screwdriver in the gap. He said that was rubbish and leaf spring bushes were solid. I cleaned up the bush and shackle and added some grease to make it look like the bush had just been changed and he passed it. I think someone who is looking for a lengthy period at just about anything will find fault. Most of these classics see minuscule mileage and maintained better than they came out of the factory. While I see the need for fundamental safety checks I think the more rudimentary ones that we have done here is far more appropriate for classics than those for every day user cars.

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i was under the impression from a local mot tester, that most insurance companies were now insisting on an mot for pre 60s cars so that they knew what they were insuring was safe to be on the road

 

my opinion is, that anything pre 60 should have a very stringent test, ensuring the car is like new, followed by 2 annual checks, that are more like a std mot, and then every 3rd a stringent one again, the in between could be extended, but to more than 5 years, and if it misses one in between, then the system starts again 

 

all angle boxes to be scrapped on site, as going to the shows, the only original part seems to be the body, then they fit high powered running gear, and in the event of an accident, would the body seriously hold up, answer, i doubt it, unsafe car, scrap it and anything like it

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i was under the impression from a local mot tester, that most insurance companies were now insisting on an mot for pre 60s cars so that they knew what they were insuring was safe to be on the road

 

my opinion is, that anything pre 60 should have a very stringent test, ensuring the car is like new, followed by 2 annual checks, that are more like a std mot, and then every 3rd a stringent one again, the in between could be extended, but to more than 5 years, and if it misses one in between, then the system starts again 

 

all angle boxes to be scrapped on site, as going to the shows, the only original part seems to be the body, then they fit high powered running gear, and in the event of an accident, would the body seriously hold up, answer, i doubt it, unsafe car, scrap it and anything like it

all the mk1 and 2 escorts as they were rotted out at 3 years old some at 1 year and as for that new mk2 shell no one is going to get one of those legally on the road anyway

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all the mk1 and 2 escorts as they were rotted out at 3 years old some at 1 year and as for that new mk2 shell no one is going to get one of those legally on the road anyway

But the mk1/2 is scrap exempt because it wasn't produced before 1960

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Hope Ray can substantiate his claims of an Anglia failing in an accident with a comparible exercise in an Escort. With full calculation of structural integrity of the two. Maybe my Anglia with all its original panels along with 10 point drawn tube cage FIA seats and 6 point harnesses, I think I might be able to walk away from a high speed impact.

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Oh dear, that's 75% of the cars on this forum going to the scrapyard then.

Indeed. Yawn.

 

Maybe my Anglia with all its original panels along with 10 point drawn tube cage FIA seats and 6 point harnesses, I think I might be able to walk away from a high speed impact.

Ditto that for the weld in cage in my van, pretty sure the door bars are stronger than anything fitted to a modern Road car, let alone a standard factory spec 70's car.

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i rest my case at the fact you are aware that you need the roll cage, FIA seats and 6 point harnesses, as you are clearly aware the body would disintegrate around them lol, so you need something to protect you

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i rest my case at the fact you are aware that you need the roll cage, FIA seats and 6 point harnesses, as you are clearly aware the body would disintegrate around them lol, so you need something to protect you

Bit like a fighter pilot needs an ejector seat as protection, thought of that but reframed from putting a sunroof in

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U can sit on the wing off a anglia and it not dent now what would happen if u did that to a escort ????

Problably fall off complete with wing rail/ strut top inner flitch panel the list is endless LOL

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My dad had three anglia. Loved the back window .

 

His last one was green with some white and a dash of chrome. I think it was a deluxe model and frequently jumped out of 3rd gear hence my dad drove with one leg propped up against the gearstick. We scrapped the car over 40 years ago and we still have the 12inch wheels and tyres in his back garden to keep the dogs out.

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