colr6 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Posted December 17, 2016 All ours are now computerised so an allotted time to each MOT so you can't get a quicky. Not sure on the time but poss 45 mins allowed for a test
eeb43 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Posted December 17, 2016 a test is officially 45 minutes here and they cant log off the system until then
colr6 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Posted December 17, 2016 What's the views on wether we should have historic cars motd or not? Checked maybe every two years due to the lack of milage done by most historics ?
eeb43 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Posted December 17, 2016 all cars should have a yearly mot regardless of age or mileage! sorry just my opinion when the exemption was first announced someone told me that he thought it was a good idea as he wouldnt have to worry about little things like worn track rod ends and little bits of welding to which i replied yes and thats exactly the reason why we should have a yearly mot
colr6 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Posted December 17, 2016 Would say most of the historics are to a good standard, well safe standard. But there's always the few who abuse the system and it's something you'll never stop so the continuation of mots on these Wll be here to stay I think .
eeb43 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Posted December 17, 2016 as i said cars have to be up to a correct roadworthy standard so why not just have an mot
colr6 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Posted December 17, 2016 Agreed if only to stop the Tossers killing someone.
Monza Posted December 17, 2016 Report Posted December 17, 2016 Totally agree. I would rather know mine had a valid mot certificate and everything was good to go. Even tho it's completley rebuilt.☺ Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
colr6 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Posted December 17, 2016 Testers know when you take them in if there ok without beating the living day lights out of things. Even some of the young lads who do the testing are quite impressed so don't get the books out and start splitting hairs as the old cars don't compete on certain things
eeb43 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Posted December 17, 2016 we all miss things regardless of who we are or what we do for a living so get that second opinion and a piece of paper 1
meXEco Posted December 17, 2016 Report Posted December 17, 2016 Exempt or not I'd always like a professional tester do go over it-common sense to a lot of us but to others its just a few quid saved regardless of consequences-daft if you ask me. 2
Danish Posted December 17, 2016 Report Posted December 17, 2016 Exempt or not I'd always like a professional tester do go over it-common sense to a lot of us I agree, and while an MOT doesn't prove the car was OK on the day of an accident, it at least shows you had its condition independently checked within the last year. Especially for those of us who do a lot of our own work. To quote my electrician course tutor - when in doubt imagine explaining yourself to a judge!
Moderator Rally Pack 2000 Posted December 18, 2016 Moderator Report Posted December 18, 2016 While I concede our system may be a bit lax in comparison but in the same respect we dont have cars suffering the level of decay that comes with your winters. I think this timed MOT thing would lend itself to petty knit picking and over scrutiny. By their nature older classics are much simpler cars than modern counterparts. This means if the inspection is timed set they are going to be dwelling on areas of the car for longer since there is so little to look at. Add to that the smart ar*e factor where the knowledge of the 20 somethings doing the test have no idea the unique needs and workings of the classics. I have personally had this happen to me even with our less comprehensive tests. He knocked me back on the leaf spring bushes claiming they were worn. He proceeded to sick a screw driver into the rear shackle bush to highlight a gap there. I said of course there is as the rear bush is not fully cylindrical and more of a triangle arrangement where the bush only touched the shackle at three points and he was putting his screwdriver in the gap. He said that was rubbish and leaf spring bushes were solid. I cleaned up the bush and shackle and added some grease to make it look like the bush had just been changed and he passed it. I think someone who is looking for a lengthy period at just about anything will find fault. Most of these classics see minuscule mileage and maintained better than they came out of the factory. While I see the need for fundamental safety checks I think the more rudimentary ones that we have done here is far more appropriate for classics than those for every day user cars.
Ray Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 i was under the impression from a local mot tester, that most insurance companies were now insisting on an mot for pre 60s cars so that they knew what they were insuring was safe to be on the road my opinion is, that anything pre 60 should have a very stringent test, ensuring the car is like new, followed by 2 annual checks, that are more like a std mot, and then every 3rd a stringent one again, the in between could be extended, but to more than 5 years, and if it misses one in between, then the system starts again all angle boxes to be scrapped on site, as going to the shows, the only original part seems to be the body, then they fit high powered running gear, and in the event of an accident, would the body seriously hold up, answer, i doubt it, unsafe car, scrap it and anything like it
colr6 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 Oh dear, that's 75% of the cars on this forum going to the scrapyard then.
eeb43 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 i was under the impression from a local mot tester, that most insurance companies were now insisting on an mot for pre 60s cars so that they knew what they were insuring was safe to be on the road my opinion is, that anything pre 60 should have a very stringent test, ensuring the car is like new, followed by 2 annual checks, that are more like a std mot, and then every 3rd a stringent one again, the in between could be extended, but to more than 5 years, and if it misses one in between, then the system starts again all angle boxes to be scrapped on site, as going to the shows, the only original part seems to be the body, then they fit high powered running gear, and in the event of an accident, would the body seriously hold up, answer, i doubt it, unsafe car, scrap it and anything like it all the mk1 and 2 escorts as they were rotted out at 3 years old some at 1 year and as for that new mk2 shell no one is going to get one of those legally on the road anyway
colr6 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 all the mk1 and 2 escorts as they were rotted out at 3 years old some at 1 year and as for that new mk2 shell no one is going to get one of those legally on the road anyway But the mk1/2 is scrap exempt because it wasn't produced before 1960
eeb43 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 But the mk1/2 is scrap exempt because it wasn't produced before 1960 nor were most anglias!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
colr6 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 Hope Ray can substantiate his claims of an Anglia failing in an accident with a comparible exercise in an Escort. With full calculation of structural integrity of the two. Maybe my Anglia with all its original panels along with 10 point drawn tube cage FIA seats and 6 point harnesses, I think I might be able to walk away from a high speed impact.
Admin Vista Posted December 18, 2016 Admin Report Posted December 18, 2016 Oh dear, that's 75% of the cars on this forum going to the scrapyard then. Indeed. Yawn. Maybe my Anglia with all its original panels along with 10 point drawn tube cage FIA seats and 6 point harnesses, I think I might be able to walk away from a high speed impact. Ditto that for the weld in cage in my van, pretty sure the door bars are stronger than anything fitted to a modern Road car, let alone a standard factory spec 70's car.
Ray Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 i rest my case at the fact you are aware that you need the roll cage, FIA seats and 6 point harnesses, as you are clearly aware the body would disintegrate around them lol, so you need something to protect you
colr6 Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 i rest my case at the fact you are aware that you need the roll cage, FIA seats and 6 point harnesses, as you are clearly aware the body would disintegrate around them lol, so you need something to protect you Bit like a fighter pilot needs an ejector seat as protection, thought of that but reframed from putting a sunroof in
jas Posted December 21, 2016 Author Report Posted December 21, 2016 U can sit on the wing off a anglia and it not dent now what would happen if u did that to a escort ????
colr6 Posted December 21, 2016 Report Posted December 21, 2016 U can sit on the wing off a anglia and it not dent now what would happen if u did that to a escort ???? Problably fall off complete with wing rail/ strut top inner flitch panel the list is endless LOL
preacherman Posted December 21, 2016 Report Posted December 21, 2016 My dad had three anglia. Loved the back window . His last one was green with some white and a dash of chrome. I think it was a deluxe model and frequently jumped out of 3rd gear hence my dad drove with one leg propped up against the gearstick. We scrapped the car over 40 years ago and we still have the 12inch wheels and tyres in his back garden to keep the dogs out.
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