ULEZ and Historic Vehicles

[Paul RS]

For those of you who live in and around London you will know that the ULEZ zone is to be extended later this year. My question is, although my RS is registered as a historic vehicle, if I go to the ULEZ checker website it still says I would have to pay the daily charge, even though Historic vehicles should be exempt.

Is there any process that you have to take, i.e.. registering with TFL, or something that you need to do to trigger the exemption?

 

Paul

[Vista]

26 minutes ago, Paul RS said:

For those of you who live in and around London you will know that the ULEZ zone is to be extended later this year. My question is, although my RS is registered as a historic vehicle, if I go to the ULEZ checker website it still says I would have to pay the daily charge, even though Historic vehicles should be exempt.

Is there any process that you have to take, i.e.. registering with TFL, or something that you need to do to trigger the exemption?

 

Paul

TfL has this to say on the matter, which makes it clear you're exempt paying ULEZ, but not whether you need to do anything after you travel through the ULEZ zone. I suggest registering for a ULEZ account and registering the car on that account.

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone/discounts-and-exemptions

Historic vehicles

You can apply with the DVLA stop paying vehicle tax if your vehicle was built more than 40 years ago. This date moves forward on a 40-year rolling system. For example, when the ULEZ launched in April 2019, vehicles built before 1979 were eligible to apply for historic vehicle tax class.

All vehicles that have a historic vehicle tax class are exempt from the ULEZ. This tax class excludes any vehicle used commercially (for example, coffee vans or street food vans).

In line with the existing LEZ discount all vehicles constructed before 1 January 1973 are exempt from the ULEZ, regardless of commercial use or otherwise.

If your vehicle meets the above criteria but is registered outside the UK, it is also exempt, but you will need to register it with us before travelling in the zone.

 

 

[Paul RS]

3 hours ago, Vista said:

TfL has this to say on the matter, which makes it clear you're exempt paying ULEZ, but not whether you need to do anything after you travel through the ULEZ zone. I suggest registering for a ULEZ account and registering the car on that account.

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone/discounts-and-exemptions

Historic vehicles

You can apply with the DVLA stop paying vehicle tax if your vehicle was built more than 40 years ago. This date moves forward on a 40-year rolling system. For example, when the ULEZ launched in April 2019, vehicles built before 1979 were eligible to apply for historic vehicle tax class.

All vehicles that have a historic vehicle tax class are exempt from the ULEZ. This tax class excludes any vehicle used commercially (for example, coffee vans or street food vans).

In line with the existing LEZ discount all vehicles constructed before 1 January 1973 are exempt from the ULEZ, regardless of commercial use or otherwise.

If your vehicle meets the above criteria but is registered outside the UK, it is also exempt, but you will need to register it with us before travelling in the zone.

 

 

Vista, I will look into that thanks, seems strange that you should have to register when the car is clearly exempt.

 

Paul

 

[Ray]

ive just checked on the TFL web site, and none of my 3 classic cars are either ULEZ or congestion charge exempt, and i had read somewhere about 6 months ago that london residents were selling their classics for that very reason, but as to how true it all is i dont know, just something i read online

 

[Paul RS]

55 minutes ago, Ray said:

ive just checked on the TFL web site, and none of my 3 classic cars are either ULEZ or congestion charge exempt, and i had read somewhere about 6 months ago that london residents were selling their classics for that very reason, but as to how true it all is i dont know, just something i read online

 

Congestion charge is not included but all classic cars should be exempt, so your 3 should also be exempt 

[Ray]

well going by tfl checker, and a few other online checkers, neither mine or nicks are exempt

whilst other info says they should be, its vague, but im not likely to take mine into that situation, so i wont loose any sleep over it

[Paul RS]

22 minutes ago, Ray said:

well going by tfl checker, and a few other online checkers, neither mine or nicks are exempt

whilst other info says they should be, its vague, but im not likely to take mine into that situation, so i wont loose any sleep over it

Unfortunately I live inside the M25 so not an option for me

[Rally Pack 2000]

Im just stunned you guys keep re-electing this guy (Khan) only for him to punish everyone with taxes for just daring to drive to the city. Then to force you onto a sub standard rail network that isnt up to the job for the amount of people it has to cope with now. Those side branches that were closed by Beeching all those years ago, shouldn't they be exempt too since they had the rail option forcibly taken away from them?  Motoring groups need to get together and drag the London council through the courts. He will keep expanding if you dont.

[katana]

Ha Ha Ha - you seem to be under the impression we live in some sort of democracy where that was possible! The majority of people that it affects, live outside London so can't vote for the Asian Hilterite and his woke administration. I suppose we could complain to our MP's - fat lot of good that would do as they've all got their noses in the trough until the next lot get in to carry on where the last lot left off! The time when a vote counted for anything and could achieve change are long gone - look after yourselves and your kin and bollux to caring for the rest of humanity!

[Paul RS]

7 hours ago, Rally Pack 2000 said:

Im just stunned you guys keep re-electing this guy (Khan) only for him to punish everyone with taxes for just daring to drive to the city. Then to force you onto a sub standard rail network that isnt up to the job for the amount of people it has to cope with now. Those side branches that were closed by Beeching all those years ago, shouldn't they be exempt too since they had the rail option forcibly taken away from them?  Motoring groups need to get together and drag the London council through the courts. He will keep expanding if you dont.

I have never voted for that corrupt parasite and never will 

[Paul RS]

I have just applied to register my RS with TFL for ULEZ exemption, and you have to upload 4 photographs of the vehicle for some reason. They then say that they will be in touch within 10 working days! I don't understand what that is all about?

 

Paul

[Ray]

1 hour ago, Paul RS said:

I have just applied to register my RS with TFL for ULEZ exemption, and you have to upload 4 photographs of the vehicle for some reason. They then say that they will be in touch within 10 working days! I don't understand what that is all about?

 

Paul

so basically what your saying is, just because the car is historic, dosnt make it exempt, you still have to apply to make it exempt, hence why the tfl website says mine are not exempt

coin it in while no one realises

 

[Paul RS]

Yes I think so, I will go through with this farce and let you know what the outcome is 🤔

[Paul RS]

Well, after filling in the required on-line form and attaching four photos of my RS, including a photo of the interior, and photos of the V5, i received this reply.

 

"Thank you for your enquiry received 2 June 2023 about the Ultra Low Emission zone (ULEZ), vehicle registration HLW32**.

Please be advised, your vehicle has been covered for the ULEZ until 6 December 2023 while the DVLA database

updates.

As your vehicle registered with the DVLA under tax class Historic vehicle you will not have to pay the ULEZ charge."

 

Can anyone make sense of that because when I put my reg number into their on-line checker it still says that I will have to pay £12.50 per day!!

I have replied to them with the same question and am now waiting on a reply for that.

 

Paul

[Paul RS]

Well, I finally received a reply.

 

"Based on the information that you have provided we can confirm that your vehicle, registration HLW32** is exempt for ULEZ. This means you do not have to pay the ULEZ charge to travel in the zone.

You can view this by going to the Pay to Drive section on our website Please be advised that we do not have a live link with Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) database and this is updated periodically.

If you have any questions, please visit tfl.gov.uk/ulez or call us on 0343 222 2222 (textphone 0207 649 9123 if you have impaired hearing)."

 

So they don't have direct access to the DVLA database which is why they want all the photos I expect. Strange.

 

Paul

[Rally Pack 2000]

So the car has to be older than 40 years to avoid this Ulez tax? Is purchasing one of the older less collectable vehicles a viable option to avoid paying this unjust tax? As long as it has aircon and a heater you dont really need a stunning performer just something that gets you around the tax? I just rebuilt the engine in mums Series 2 Toyota Camry. Its the most mundane thing to drive but its simpler sleeker old design even looks smart these days. It even has better panoramic vision that almost every car built after 2000. Its only 35 years old but in time it could server perfectly as a reliable every day city traveler. Is that viable option for some to consider? Any models come to mind that would fit the bill?

[Dave Knight]

I don’t live in London but checked mine and it says I have to pay. Here’s why, it would appear that all the other cities with ULEZ, you are taken to the DVLA UK gov site, but not London. He’s a robbing w-⚓️. Checked Glasgow as well, exempt as well. 

[styut]

I'm in dialogue with them as my car shows as non-exempt on their checker thing. Replies are useless and take ages. They've asked to see a copy of my V5 now, and I'm hoping that will be the end of it. Not that it really matters, as all of the cameras have been cut down anyway 😉

[Dave Knight]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12437769/Londoners-snap-classic-cars-dodge-ULEZ-Dealers-surge-older-models-capital-braces-expansion-12-50-zone.html

[Vista Estate]

2 hours ago, Dave Knight said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12437769/Londoners-snap-classic-cars-dodge-ULEZ-Dealers-surge-older-models-capital-braces-expansion-12-50-zone.html

I wonder if the Mayor of London is going to buy an Austin Allegro?

After all he likes all agro but then again if he buys an Austin Maxi he could get the pads too 🤣

[Rally Pack 2000]

3 hours ago, Vista Estate said:

I wonder if the Mayor of London is going to buy an Austin Allegro?

After all he likes all agro but then again if he buys an Austin Maxi he could get the pads too 🤣

Apparently he used a V8 RangeRover thats exempt cause its a council vehicle.

[Rally Pack 2000]

I keep reading that most (but not all) cars registered after 2006 are compliant. Would my Mk2 2007 Ford Focus be fine in that situation then?

[katana]

No - its in Australia ! 🤣

[Rally Pack 2000]

2 hours ago, katana said:

No - its in Australia ! 🤣

Yeah but I hear the UK is really easy to get into by boat? 😛 Focus A Float.

[Ray]