RS killing

[bomber1]

when i was looking to buy a rwd escort a freind was saying i should go for the low owner e/sport/mex/rs which would have been nice but i knew deep down i would re do the car to how i wanted it so i ended up with the yellow one in my sig. which after baz seeing it last nite shows its built with parts from many cars the good side is i will never feel guilty about making it mine

[mk2 stu]

Its all about making it your own, Every single panel on my car is repaired or replaced by me! Every mod, tuning decision is mine, thats what makes it unique and makes all this worth doing! But it would be nice to own a mint original too!

[PIG]

mine is a proper rs2000,cut um up i reckon

[Mark2Mark]

No one should feel guilty about anything they do to their car, after all it is their car no one elses. I don't think i would have the heart to thrash a mint RS1800 through a forrest, but when all said and done the only reason there is a road going version of these sort of cars was for competition use, they were built to be used

[johnny_h]

No one should feel guilty about anything they do to their car, after all it is their car no one elses. I don't think i would have the heart to thrash a mint RS1800 through a forrest, but when all said and done the only reason there is a road going version of these sort of cars was for competition use, they were built to be used

 

Works cars were built for the stages. The road cars bearing the same name are replicas for use on the road. Fair enough if my car was a bag of shit basket case I wouldn't have a problem cutting it up to improve it but i'm of the opinion if it aint broke, don't fix it.

[Mark2Mark]

Yes obviously they are not full on snorting rally cars but there are obvious connections between the two (which is more than can be said of any WRC)

If everyone left their car as the good ford intended it would be a little dull.

I love to see standard mint examples of mk1's and 2's but variety is the spice of life

[ZetecVan 2.0]

I think if the car is original, or low mileage then keep it that way. I've got a 'Gold Standard' anglia. For those who don't know, they made something like 250 in gold and 250 in blue mink (Mines a blue mink one) to commemorate the end of production.

 

Because it wasn't original and needed sills, floors, wings, crossmembers etc etc, I'm quite happy to cut it up and fit an XE, four link kit etc etc. If it had a solid shell I would have kept it original and used a different shell.

[mk2 matt]

i say do what you want with your car, its up to you if u want to cut it up and rally it,

 

but if you where to do it to some concourse car, i doubt it would be worth as much after you've cut it up etc

[Rich Sav]

i think its a bit of a shame but its there car so there free 2 do what they want with it

[mista weava]

this isinteresting , as i asked a similar question regards my ex-haynes mk1 rs2000 grp1 car. i am grp4 preparing the car for historic stage rallying. i think it adds an interesting piece of history to its story.

 

regards rs1800 - they were built with intention of rallying - i would have no qualms about piling a mint rs1800 mk2 down a stage.

 

my car will probably owe me 25k when its done - but its going to get driven hard.,

[antz]

when i bought my escort ghia i was admonant it would stay original cos it was low mileage and never welded.

 

well now its got 72k on the clock, is booked in for new wings in janurary and the need for mods has got into my mind.

 

haence full suspension upgrade

 

do what you want i say. if its too good to cut then leave it but at the end of the day its your care. do what you want.

[Jelly]

Im well up for modding OSF's, but i cant help but think alot of 1100's etc are being wasted by turning them into rediculous spec rally cars? If ur gonna do that use an RS, mex or something what u guys think?

 

Amen, brother!

 

[J_mk1]

hey who changed my words (above)???? i guess some people feel quite strongly about this...

[Doc]

i say cutt them up and enjoy

 

wheres my torch !

[escortmad79]

Whereas I agree that they are built to be driven hard & have a rally heritage, the introduction of historic rallying means that the prices have gone spiraling out of control due to demand.

There are less & less Mk1 & 2 2 door Escorts on the street but an increasing number being totalled going down a rally stage.

 

You'd be pretty pissed off if you had a genuine RS1600/1800 which you used for rallying & stack it on a stage!

[Gibson]

No one should feel guilty about anything they do to their car, after all it is their car no one elses. I don't think i would have the heart to thrash a mint RS1800 through a forrest, but when all said and done the only reason there is a road going version of these sort of cars was for competition use, they were built to be used

 

Works cars were built for the stages. The road cars bearing the same name are replicas for use on the road. Fair enough if my car was a bag of shit basket case I wouldn't have a problem cutting it up to improve it but i'm of the opinion if it aint broke, don't fix it.

 

 

yea well mines broke.... so out comes the angle grinder!

[Retromotorsport]

There will always be an example of every model...

 

there always is, anyone remember that 35k plus standard car that was in CF... totally restored 1100...

 

And at any show the standard cars outnumber the modded ones at the moment.

 

Personally i hate cutting up RS models, they have too much crap on them that needs taking off.

 

At Bromley pagent one year we was walking past a row of 22 Mk1 concourse Rs2000's, the people i was with stopped at the first one , so did I, just to be polite, and then moved when they did, I got to the end and relised they had stopped at the second car, when the caught up with me, they asked how come i never looked at the rest...........

 

" there all the same cept the colour, and i saw a standard mk1 Rs2000 when i was 10 years old.... they aint changed as far as i'm aware."

 

I do think that they shouldnt be used for rallying ... racing yes, but not throwing at trees. Race car tend to have long lives, a top spec Hysterical Rally car has a life expectancy of one season.

 

But as for worrying that they will all get modded, just look on the site, how many people ask about leaf springs and how many ask about 4 links.

There are a lot more standard cars than Gp2/4 cars and even less what would be classed as Gp5.... Retro Als car is Gp5, but wack a BDA/X-flow or Pinto in there and you have a Gp4 car. Allough it wouldnt be allowed in to Hysterical rallies ... as it dosnt conform to how they where built in the 70's but is still within the letter of the rules. Hence why I call Historics , hysterical

 

I cut up and improve maybe 10 cars a year on average.... but dont panic, there not all Escorts... just most of them as they are still capable of winning ...

[Rick]

think of it this way... the more that get destroyed the more value it adds to your own....

 

theyre rare enough as it is lol#

 

btw mine was an ex rally car, destroyed but iv restored it, maybe not to original as i didnt want original, its easilly done and mines not an rs shell

 

i respect concourse but whats the point if your scared to drive it

[Dom]

Well we've got 3 mk2 escorts, the 1100 pop plus is getting a 2.4 pinto, six link etc etc.

The 1600 sport which had an x pack is rusty as fook so that'll get a cossie YB six link etc etc.

But the mexico, ooooooooooooooooooo, well my brother didn't even like the idea of putting polybushes on it, so thats getting a standard 1600 pinto as well as standard everything else and is then going to a nice heated garage and out for the shows. The reason for that is when we got it it didn't look all to dissimilar to bigkevs escort, so now it looks mint, its abit of a lifetime achievment for my bro.

[Mk2Jo]

I say each to their own ..... if it's been done well then fair play

[sparkycapri]

it's true that the rally boys have pushed up prices but that can only be a good thing as the price of good 2doors are now out of the range of one other form of motorsport - BANGER RACING which is still the fate of many capris/cortinas&granadas. so that can't be a bad thing

 

opinions?

[escortmad79]

it's true that the rally boys have pushed up prices but that can only be a good thing as the price of good 2doors are now out of the range of one other form of motorsport - BANGER RACING which is still the fate of many capris/cortinas&granadas. so that can't be a bad thing

 

opinions?

But it also pushes the price up for the people that want to build fast road cars! Your typical Joe Public is being priced out of the market by people who want to be Roger Clark

[Gibson]

For gods sake save em from the banger track...

 

 

Now Sierras however.... are a completely different matter

[Vista]

I'm not really fussed what others do to their cars (it is theirs after all) though I do think it's a waste to wreck what was already a rare car on a rally stage.

 

What I do know is that mine will never be "improved" whilst I own it. I'm happy to tweak and play with the engine, suspension, brakes etc but modifying it so it represents little of the original car isn't for me.

[Dave1800BDA]

Its a shame mint examples of cars like the ultimate rs1800 are used for rallying but, those that are left will only become rarer and more looked after. I used a 1300 Gl shell for my mega project, if i'd of had the money to buy an original rs1800 at the start, i would have kept it standard, maybe jus added things like panhard and brake mods.

 

Most RS1800s that are rallied/raced today etc are not and were not road cars as they were originally built as the Escort RS back when homologation was needed, many cars were built for this purpose. Dealers encouraged the working man to be part of this and so parts/shells were sold from RS dealerships. Alot of those cars built were then given chassis numbers and logged as RS1800s. The dealership even built cars, Haynes of Maidstone, Thomas Motors etc, the list is endless.

The lovely secretary at the time at these dealers then filled for log book etc to the DVLA her information probably stated that these were indeed RS1800s, laws then were a bit lapse then.

So thats why theres probably more RS1800 logged cars than there should be. 400 were built for homolgation purposes. (not all were logged as RS1800 some as Escort RS).

There were only 109 road cars built and I only Know of one car that is used in anger through the forests etc, all the others ( i know of 92 road cars) are exactly that, road cars, albeit some with mods tho.

In my eyes the other cars werent built at the factory so cannot be deemed as true RS1800s as we know, chassis numbers prove that.

 

So when you see the cars through the forests enjoy the bark

 

everyone to their own

 

cheers Dave