Mk 1 / Mk2 Escort throttle linkage

[oldwheels]

Looking for Throttle linkage for Mk1 / Mk2 Escort I realise they are different MK2 Crossflow, weber carb fitted in Mk1 or something I can modify, thanks

Edited September 24, 2023 by oldwheels

[Ray]

a picture or 2 of the set up so we can see whats missing would help

[oldwheels]

Thanks for reply, I should have made it clearer, I have a weber carb and an accelerator pedal and nothing else I realise cable is available, thanks 

[BaileyMex]

What Weber carb is it mate?

[Ray]

2 hours ago, BaileyMex said:

What Weber carb is it mate?

exactly why i asked for pictures

 

[oldwheels]

Sorry Picture of Carb enclosed, thanks

[Ray]

i was kinda hoping for a little more than that tbh, a picture of it sat on the manifold so we can see what manifold would help, as the 1.3 and 1.6 used one bracket and rod, while the 2 litre used what looked like the same bracket and rod but 180 degrees different, 

what size engine are you using it on,

[oldwheels]

OK, Will do I thought it was more straight forward my mistake will take pic tomorrow,  Engine is 1600 crossflow, thanks

[Ray]

1 hour ago, oldwheels said:

OK, Will do I thought it was more straight forward my mistake will take pic tomorrow,  Engine is 1600 crossflow, thanks

i got a lot of things on at the mo, so bear with me, as i got a funeral to go to tomorow, but ill get you a picture of how a 1.3 and 1.6 set up looks like as soon as i can, the photo will show a 32/32DGV carb as used on the 1300GT, the 1600GT used a 32/36, but externally you cant see the difference, your one looks lIke its possibly the earlier 32 DFE, as its top is rounded compared to the 32/32 and 32/36 DGV, and uses a different air filter housing, if it is and its twin 32/32, it may be no good for your 1600

[Ray]

this is a std setup for the 1.3 and 1.6 GT

 

[oldwheels]

Thanks for pics, Carb is 32/36 DGAV pictures of carb and manifold enclosed, Pedel is std mk1, thanks

[Brenda1978]

I used some the aftermarket stuff and they work very well. They bolt directly to the carb 

[Ray]

well first and foremost, in not sure thats a 32/36 DGAV, primarily the difference between the DGV in my pictures and the DGAV is the DGAV is auto choke, so all the auto chake parts are missing, and or carb modified to manual choke, but the top houing also looks incorrect, so i cant be sure, but even if it is, the DGAV was for the 2.0 pinto RS 

secondly the thing that really sytands out is the manifold and carb are 180 degrees out to what they should be, look at mine compared to yours, with yours the throttle linkage sits radiator side if fitted to a crossflow, it should sit bulkhead side, on a pinto it would sit on the other side of the engine, putting it bulkhead side, and the manifold is not the correct shape for a crossflow

the only way of telling a 32/32DGV 13GT carb opposed to the 32/36DGV is to remove it from the manifold and look at the bores, one is twin 32mm, and the other has one at 32mm and the other at 36mm, or look at the stampings as that will tell you, but externally they are both exactly the same

sat like that the 32 primary, is too close to the head for a crossflow, it should be furthest away, but its correctly on the manifold for the throttle bracket, so im guessing that what you have in both carb and manifold, is not for a crossflow setup, and possibly a pinto carb and manifold thats been modified to manual choke, as said in my earlier post, the bracket on the pinto carb, sits 180 degrees out as well, (the missing part you were enquiring about) which would match to your pictures, a crossflow bracket will not work on that set up

[Miniliteman]

Carb on photos posted by oldwheels is a 32/36 DGV (manual choke). Manifold is for a Pinto.

[Ray]

7 hours ago, Miniliteman said:

Carb on photos posted by oldwheels is a 32/36 DGV (manual choke). Manifold is for a Pinto.

i beg to differ, look at my pictures, that is a DGV manual choke carb for an escort, which differs quite considerably to the one in oldwheels picture, if necesary i can scan in the ipc for both the 32dgv and the 32/36dgv to show you

[oldwheels]

Thanks to all, Carb is stamped 32/36 DGAV,  As for manifold my mistake, I have to admit to becoming bogged down in this project, old age, pending house move and an inability to see the obvious. I have messed with old cars all my life but never expected the difficulty in building a car from a rusty shell as we all know MK1 Parts are at a premium, in view of this you are at the mercy of ebay not always the best place to purchase from. thanks again

[Ray]

10 minutes ago, oldwheels said:

Thanks to all, Carb is stamped 32/36 DGAV,  As for manifold my mistake, I have to admit to becoming bogged down in this project, old age, pending house move and an inability to see the obvious. I have messed with old cars all my life but never expected the difficulty in building a car from a rusty shell as we all know MK1 Parts are at a premium, in view of this you are at the mercy of ebay not always the best place to purchase from. thanks again

as its stamped DGAV, then definitely it was/is a 2 litre pinto carb that originally had an auto choke, that is what the "A" stands for, and that has been removed and converted to manual choke, hence why it dosnt look like mine, and everything is 180 degrees out, as it sits on the other side with the pinto, also it has a fuel return to tank, that can be seen in your picture, whereas the 32/36 DGV that was fitted to the 1.3 and 1.6 cross flows did not

for the 1600GT, you can buy brand new weber 32/36 DGV carbs, from most weber dealers, and theyre not fortunes, in fact usually cheaper than you can buy the parts to overhaul a badly worn one, dont get them confused with the ones the dealers try to convert for the 1300GT tho, dont work properly on the 1300GT, but possibly re jettable for the 1600

[Miniliteman]

4 hours ago, Ray said:

i beg to differ, look at my pictures, that is a DGV manual choke carb for an escort, which differs quite considerably to the one in oldwheels picture, if necesary i can scan in the ipc for both the 32dgv and the 32/36dgv to show you

Yours is a 32DGV (zoom in on the base of carb), the one in oldwheels photos is a 32/36DGV or DGAV with autochoke-mechanism replaced by manual (zoom in on neck of carb, you can see 26 and 27 which indicates the choke size).

[oldwheels]

Thanks again, I am not in the position to purchase new, are these any good.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175917810878?hash=item28f584c4be%3Ag%3AqrsAAOSwXIhktDGE&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0GIj9onkzZbjL83%2BR%2FIQ%2FhTP8bHIzd9MBPg9%2BhhDaONgvdPmt40FAV%2BlxW5qm9xxbo41ln41ucuzkBdAyrntgO1EAYnCYxnxGAcx7j70mi6dvtnJd5%2FXWdYr5%2Bqn8LIlXEEpwUYvCxJhEzt%2BH1vbjKdM%2Bbw4cMN%2BTsmtxHcMDIwY5935yXrFm5fdZEK%2Btgff4CLyISCJqgNV2udlECIaDeSdsT%2B4d7qPNVYbZ4M4Dr3K%2BVaqnqe8OFQQ%2BEO1ocCfdjSEMNeSctQ31ssrKuvNnEI%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR_z29NzcYg&LH_ItemCondition=4

[oldwheels]

Another one, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235208846905?hash=item36c38a2e39%3Ag%3AQ6IAAOSwPn5kfKz7&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8FD2zHYx39JBAVLkxHYSmP9buoKzv5cLNrZrkvVS72DFzXZuChafOsAI1JgUFMqIbmAzhJDw2Z9yJ7QFjX%2FdelJmV6EAkQniZ1qcMQNlHTUPJ3tTEGi77Kw4GgfQL97c%2BQUGHBBZywpfyINQ8Ueo5iot3%2Fm9CcJBpIVyZm174HtKUVg3dbLI3avPY7hxFFQ%2Bv1idDGtW0htQhwB7ClieGVSPZPltPTScBCkaVzjmJpPifx1QnRGK%2Bfyt%2BbkFMlHjMLJdJuGUL4l1t%2BSQE3xQSH1HRSQosYLCMj1g34r4%2BSckUA0VI7H2Gf4eG6XvOstJrA%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR_729NzcYg&LH_ItemCondition=4

[Johnny Boy]

For just over£100 you can buy a Chinese no make 32/36 copy carb. they work fine , you may need to change the main and idle jets, to suit your application.

Got one on my 1600 Sport Escort MK2.

[Johnny Boy]

[Johnny Boy]

Here you go, even cheaper than £100

32 36 carb

[Rally Pack 2000]

25 minutes ago, Johnny Boy said:

For just over£100 you can buy a Chinese no make 32/36 copy carb. they work fine , you may need to change the main and idle jets, to suit your application.

Got one on my 1600 Sport Escort MK2.

Come now chaps Chinese Webers are like Chinese Tesla batteries, you only end up in flames and tears

[Miniliteman]

First one has an electric choke second one was an automatic choke but converted to manual choke.

All those (cheap) used ones need proper cleaning and checking plus new gaskets.