PRICES >.<

[Rick]

It's been a good few years since I was involved in the osf world and I drop back in here now and again to tease myself.

But christ, what happened to the prices!

everything seems to be £5k more now

I guess demand got higher.
 

[2512pf]

Crikey where you bin

[PeteRS8084]

Blimey you would struggle with 5 large I reckon!

[colr6]

And theysay there is NO money around!!!

[PeteRS8084]

As for demand see what sells on flea day. I have seen cars that have been dumped in fields, cars stuck in garages with trees growing through them and people still bid......so for anything half decent you will need to break into your piggy bank........then rob a bank!

[colr6]

A few years ago fords where the average family mans car. First car of your teens or a mini now they are an arm and a leg for a modest example even minis fetch vast sums What's going on? Are people reliving there youth or a sound investment for retirement funds as pension plans are rubbish. Instead of a rolls we now have old cars as status of some whealth? You sure need some to own a desirable model ! Or is it a means of meeting people through clubs/shows and forums like this? Better than playing dominos down the pub that's if you can find one that's not been turned into a fast food /bar meal rubbish. Is there somthing else that inflating the prices of the things we would once knock the the windows out of and recklessly drive round fields in? What do you think ?

[PeteRS8084]

Reliving my yooooof. ...........plus it's nice to meet like minded people, and too see what and how others improve their rides!

[Vista]

Values of all classic cars have risen massively, Fords just being dragged along with them

[colr6]

Would say the fords are up near the top of increase in values not just dragged along with the rest of them.

[brettp]

Reliving my yooooof. ...........plus it's nice to meet like minded people, and too see what and how others improve their rides!

nail on the head ! I was lucky never sold mine 1st car I ever had now 39 I've lost count of the amount of times I've heard someone say I wish I still had that car .unfortunatly prices would still have to triple for me to get back what I've spent just don't tell the wife

[Ray]

i would say that ford were at the top as well, i see the cause as a mixture of reasons, people re-living ther youth, but they could have chsen a different car, so why the ford, well it was vastly popular, and genereally 40-50 years down the line there are still a lot of them out there, therefore they are still well catered for in comparison to other makes and models, in regards to spares and modification parts, thus making them more desireable, they are also fairly easy to modify, Ford also used a lot of common parts across the range, again making the classic ford easier to support

unless you have a classic car that is or is going to be worth a fortune, then getting parts re-made because they cant be found is not economic, when you go round the shows, most bare shell restos are done with fords or expensive and rare makes and models, as far as i can see, the roots group cars and alike dont have that support, therefore not as desirable and not worth as much, and certainly not worth stripping back to a shell, the cars would never get re-built

 

the problem being, where will it stop, and are we heading for a big crash in the market once the people re-living their youth fall out of love with them again, ot just get too old to maintain and drive them, and theres a glut of cars, and potential buyers are not from that era, so dont want to pay good money

 

in the 18 months ive owned my escorts, i would have said prices have doubled, it has to plateu somewhere

[Rally Pack 2000]

Values of all classic cars have risen massively, Fords just being dragged along with them

 

Ford Australia has announced its closing up shop so it will now just be a freight handler for overseas models. All Australian assembled cars especially the muscle stuff has just doubled in a matter of months.

 

I think the demand increase thats driving the prices up is about people demanding more originality. Modern cars all lined up I litterally cant tell a Subaru from Honda from a Toyota from a Hyundai anymore unless i get up close to see the badge. I keep my Mk2 Escort so I can find my car at the shops. I just look for the only shoebox and I know thats mine!

[Vista]

All good points above

 

Just as I thought I'd seen it all, £120k for a 3 door Sierra Cosworth! OK it's a low mileage RS500, but still,£120k??? I bet someone will pay it though

 

http://www.rybrook.co.uk/specialist-cars/approved-used-cars/vehicle/ford-sierra-petrol-3dr-201507024845832/

[PeteRS8084]

Wow, now that's a price!

I see it this way, I can afford a lovely car of my youth. I bought my rs2000s, xr2s, 2.8 inj capris, xr3is and even a mk1 escort fully converted to 3 ltr in my younger days when prices where not ball breaking. I enjoyed hooning around in all of them. Then you get all sensible, and you need a decent daily driver............hence the never ending list, as my Mrs calls it.

I had really nice mgbgt v8 back in the early 2000s, paid a good price, and did not loose out on it at sale time, same with a cosworth Mercedes. ...........just lucky I reckon.

Now I have kermit, and yeah I think I fell well lucky with her, bought sight unseen! Via flea bay, but if you have seen her you will know she is lovely, like I said lucky, but I knew what I was willing to pay, bid and won her for less that I expected.............bonus.

Yes there is always plenty of tinkering, but hey that's the joy of ownership. But parts are available, even if some take longer then others, and prices can be eye watering for those hard to find parts, but sometimes you find a price and you think you have robbed the seller..............In other words it's cheaper than you would have paid.

As for car values.............yes they seem like they are going mental, but I'd you already own an old skool happy days........when was the last ti e you sold your daily drivers for more than you paid for them..............not very often I bet!

 

So if you want to get on board with a good ford your going to have to pay...........but be realistic, and finally if it looks to cheap there will be a reason. Be prepared to do some work, be prepared to get frustrated! But on the plus side smile every time you take her out and get honked, waved at, thumbs up, photographed and videoed. The smile on your face will tell a story. And finally you will meet like minded people, and enjoy swapping stories!

WIN WIN EVERY DAY!

Just my personal thoughts though!

[colr6]

Look at some of the other makes The mini is making good prices for certain models like the cooper/ pick up and vans. E types were making some great prices then feel on there backside now starting to climb. Possibly a comparison to the escort is the marina 1.8TC well it's got two doors and a sport model (don't laugh) ten years ago worth 3/6d now might be worth ten bob vauxhall viva /firenza GT viva HB might fetch 10k for a good one probably because they were not produced in big numbers equivelents to rs 2000 firenza droop snoot still not fetching any where near the price of a medioker rs Only one possibly making the grade is the HSR Chevette and again how many do you see? As stated above because the fords where easily modded by using parts off other models and cheaply due to vast amount of them around attracted the youth which have stayed with them. Even though you can get a present day car that's as quick more reliable and cheaper like focus St/rs people still like the old motors because we can mend them without sophisticated gear just a basic tool kit Haynes manual and away you go. Think this type of conversation could go on for hours. Old fords were the best and still are more than what can be said for the present offerings. ( my thoughts on modern fords) No doubt some of you will disagree.

[DT36]

Look at the age of most who now own a classic ford. Probably, kids have grown up and mortgage really low or paid off. Therefore, they now have a disposable income to relive or buy what they couldn't afford during their youth.

 

I had to get rid of my RS 22 years ago when my Missus spun it twice pulling out of junctions when she was carrying for our youngest. Took me up until mine left college and started working to be able to buy one back.

[colr6]

My kids have grown up and gone, well I thought they had! There a bit more clued up on cars telling me what to buy next with the view to them getting them when I pop my clogs. Grand daughter of 7years has already asked when am due to die because her daddy has got his name on four motorbikes a car and my tool box. I asked her when she wanted to me die she replied never grandad how would we get all our toys and house mended if your not here? or could I ring you up if something breaks. Just what do you say to that! But agree it's mostly the older generation owning the old cars so when a young lad comes to talk to me about old cars and bikes give as much info and enthusiasm as poss so hopefully they will keep the likes of our cars going

[Rally Pack 2000]

When my nephew visited last week he asked if I still had "the old orange car" in reference to my Twincam and I said yes its still there. He said when are you going to get rid of that old heap and I said I was going to see if he wanted me to leave it to him in my will. He just shook his head and said not interested. The kid drives an old Subaru Imprezza with a crunched bonnet where he hit a kangaroo and stepped on it to flatten it out again and turns his nose up at mine geez.

 

I dont believe that people are buying old Fords because they couldnt afford them in our youth, They were the cheap cars of our youth that we could afford. If people are buying them to relive their younger years then I must still be living mine as I have had them both from my teens and 20s.. My Mk2 (our version of a mexico with a 2lft Engine) I got in my teens for roughly 2500 pounds and my Twincam in my 20's for 2000 pounds, that was very average really and I was earning very meagre wages and was never a case of not being able to afford them. The insurance value on my Mk2 dropped down to 750 pounds (equivalent) at one point as it was considered an old banger. Its really only in the past decade and half that they have been unaffordable for the average Joe I think

[mk2 mike]

When I passed my test in 1990, my older mates who were already driving were divided into two groups; either mini or Escort, the latter being the most popular. Being 6ft4 the mini was a no no so I started looking in the free ads paper 'loot' for an escort. I can remember there being pages and pages of mk1s and 2s for sale for less than a few hundred quid. So off I went to East London and bought a mint midnight blue 1100 popular mk2 for £200 and took it back to south London and my obsession with escorts began. I had a string of 5 mk2s, a mk1 and even an 105e but When I got to 23 I turned my attention to BMWs, but always hankered after another mk2. I just couldn't afford to have a second car until into my mid 30s but when I could, another mk2 was top of the list. For me it's definitely a case of re living the good times when I was in my late teens, early twenties. Only now with the added bonus of being able to afford the shiny bits.

 

It would have to be a pretty serious reason for me to get rid of it now, even if prices continue to rocket.

 

On a side note my neighbour has an 80s Mini Cooper for sale for over £6k. I thought he was dreaming but he's had no end of interest and a couple of close offers but he's holding out for the full asking price. I've been so blinkered by OSF prices if completely lost track of other classics increasing too!

[meXEco]

I'm lucky as I bought my mk1 8 or 9 years ago for a good price and just keeping hold of it has now made it worth something. But I will be selling it when I've done a bit of work to it as it will be too valuable for me to use unfortunately and lack of storage means I wont be able to leave it outside for fear of thieves and the cost of running it isnt feasible for me. We've just dropped £5k on new parts and some body resto work although I cant afford to repaint it as we thought we needed the mechanicals and rust sorting more than it looking shiney plus there was no cash left ha ha. So I'm glad prices have risen and with the right bits fitted I could actually get my money back plus a little profit hopefully not that I want to sell but the time seems right sadly.

[2512pf]

Well as my old man used to say its worth as much as someone is willing to pay!

I purchased a fully restored 1963 lotus cortina in 2002 for 12 k and I thought that was a load of money ,what's it worth now ? 50 k .now I love old Ford's but 50k? Think I would buy myself another motorhome

[khanlad]

My first car was a pale blue mk2 escort 4dr, £250, insurance was more than the car, but it was ace, lasted me about 6 months before i stuck a conrod out of the side of the block dicking around, before that spent many an hour fixing stuff id broke with my dad in our garage, but i was hooked. My working mates had xr2s, xr3s, other newer stuff but it was always escorts, mk1s and 2s for me. I saved some and borrowed a shed load of cash and bought a missile of a 1600sport, to this day with all the great cars ive owned that has been my favourite, and the only car i regret selling, that is until i finished my escort i have now. Typed all this and have no idea of my point? I think that we look back 20/30years an think of how great things were, when reality is they probably weren't , get in your car and they were, and still are!

[HotRodMatt]

Bought my '74 Mk1 2dr in 1999 for the princely sum of £300 off a mate who had just replaced a rear quarter panel and a door skin. Genuine 55k miles and every MoT since 1977. Certainly couldn't get such a car now for ten times that.

[colr6]

My anglia is a replica of what I had when I sixteen just a bit more modern. Back in the days car cost £60,1500gt engine complete£40 2000e box £15 classic struts complete with discs £20 home made banded wheels ., home made anti-tramp bars some tyres 185/70/13 tyres from the scrappy whatever left bought you loads of fuel. Remove brain away we go. Not much trouble with the police seem to remember they only had HB vivas not much compo if you did caught won't tell you what we did it may be incriminating THE GOOD OLD DAYS!!!!

[PeteRS8084]

Mk2 cortina series 1 gt, cost to me in 1979.................70 squid, old man was in the trade. And at the same time I bought a 1966 mk1 cortina gt, via the trade for 100 squid. Girlfriend at the time pranged it massively, still sold it to a mate for 60! Happy days