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Brexit, For or Against? Decided how to vote yet?  

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  1. 1. How will you be voting?

    • Leave
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One thing's for certain, whichever way this vote goes tomorrow, there's going to be a lot of unhappy people about. A nation divided like never before.

Yeah I have been thinking about that. Those most likely to vote leave seem to be more passionate! And if it looks remotely like a fix people will be taking to the streets.

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Get out of the dictatorship EU it`s the best thing , may be than can more go countries get out.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i00Fi0tzro

If we manage to get out, it will be interesting to see if it starts a chain reaction throughout the EU!

 

Looking at the comments in that clip it looks like Farage has many fans in the NL? And that Mark Rutte is held in a similar regard to Cameron!

 

There are many parallels between both nations.

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Email I've just had from my MP. Re her voting intentions "tomorrow" guessing she drafted it last night and didn't proof read it before sending today (schoolboy error):

 

 

Dear Resident,

 

I believe Britain can grow if we take control of our economy. In 1980 the 28 member states made up 30% of the world market. Today that is only 17%. The only continent to grow slower than Europe was Antarctica. I believe it is essential that we free ourselves from endless EU regulation and now build those important trade relationships which Brussels struggles to do. We are the fifth largest economy on earth with a massive deficit with the EU – they will want to trade with us.

 

We have no idea how many people will come to live here from the EU under the principle of free movement. This makes it impossible to plan our services like our health service and our schools. We are already seeing a population around the size of Plymouth coming into the UK every year. We need to take back control of our population growth so that we can plan for the future. We need to take back control of our immigration so that we can get the best people, wherever they are in the world.

 

I believe in democracy. I believe that the people of the UK should have the power to hire and fire their politicians who make the laws that govern them. I believe that this is the only chance we could get to fire the unelected EU Presidents which hardly anyone can name.

 

As someone who has lives and breathed the UK fishing industry for around 30 years, I say there are no economic benefits for UK fishermen from membership of the EU. It, as an industry, is a ghost of its former self. Around 92% of the UK fishermen are calling for the UK to leave. Whilst I cannot say my late husband Neil died as a result of the CFP, I can say it contributed to the economic pressure he felt when deciding to fish alone. It is clear to me that we must take back control over our waters.

 

These are just some of the reasons that I am asking people to back a message of hope tomorrow and not to bow down to fear. Tomorrow I am going to vote for a stronger and more democratic future for Britain. Tomorrow I am going to Vote Leave and I am asking you to join me.

Kind Regards,

Sheryll

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If we manage to get out, it will be interesting to see if it starts a chain reaction throughout the EU!

 

Looking at the comments in that clip it looks like Farage has many fans in the NL? And that Mark Rutte is held in a similar regard to Cameron!

 

There are many parallels between both nations.

Yes it very worse and it will get much worser , piece by piece we lose our freedom and every time we must pay more , they are not elected we didn`t want the euro , we didn`t want the EU law , we didn`t want the contract with the Oekraine , and still it`s happens ......... and mark rutte is a gay but if he is ok but there are stories also about boys under 18 and worse about him and also about alot more people and above him to.

Yes Nigel has a few friends in the Netherlands and is funny.

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Well statement is been made, Brexit, concrats for those who voted so. You and we will suffer the consequences.

 

Must say If Holland does a referendum about this subject, Nexit is what Ill vote to, whatever the consequences will be.

 

EU has to many power. We individual country's are like puppets on a string and are loosing our identity piece by piece. Most of our identity is gone already.

 

We have our own will, we have our own rights and we mind our own business. No need for EU to come between that.

 

The Euro coin is very practical but not really needed these days with credit cards in the wallet. Let the banks do the exchange on paper.

Lots of my shopping is on eBay and I pay with lots of different coins automatically, is it Dollar, Ausy Dollar, Pound Sterling whatever, the bank calculates exchange and the only I pay is in Euro's which could easily be Guilders.

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EU has to many power. We individual country's are like puppets on a string and are loosing our identity piece by piece. Most of our identity is gone already.

 

The Euro coin is very practical but not really needed these days with credit cards in the wallet. Let the banks do the exchange on paper.

Lots of my shopping is on eBay and I pay with lots of different coins automatically, is it Dollar, Ausy Dollar, Pound Sterling whatever, the bank calculates exchange and the only I pay is in Euro's which could easily be Guilders.

 

I recently did a road trip around Europe and with Schengen & the Euro, each country just blended into each other and it was difficult to tell when you actually crossed borders and having the euro made cash purchases easier! BUT it made the trip boring and your right, EU countries have lot their identity as it was like one giant country! It wasnt until we got to the Czech Republic that it actually felt like a different country!

 

I used to travel Europe a fair bit before the Euro & Schengen, and I much preferred spending Guilders in Holland, Francs in France and Pesetas in Spain etc. It all made part of the experience for me! All these countries have now lost a lot of their identity & culture and it would of happened to us had we remained long enough!

 

 Also as a child & teen I spent a lot time visiting family in Brussels, and I always remember how clean the country was and how welcoming the people were, so when I decided to stop on my way back for old times sake I was totally shocked of what it has become. It is now a complete F,ing toilet and I would not advise anyone to go there, all the historic monuments were graffitied and I see women continually harassed by immigrants. In a bar we was in we overheard some Africans talking to & smothering a couple of American girls asking if they were heading for England!!! My friends wife had a quite word with the girls who then stood with our group to get away from them!

 

 

 

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Well. It seems I'm English today not European, I've got my identity back. Now we need a campaign to get all those number plates off with euro flags on them, and replace them with Union Jacks, George crosses, Welsh Dragons etc.

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Well there were a fair few comments on here before we knew the result, but not so many now.

Now that leaving is the reality, are we still all glad we voted the way we did?

I have always been very patriotic but also very tolerant, laid back and certainly not a racist, not a homophobe and I just hope that the rest of the world don't think that of the British people because of the way the vote has gone.

I do hope that we have started something good, and that in time other countries follow as the EU is becoming far too big and interfering for its own good.

I have kids and all I want is for them to be able to grow up and enjoy a nice life on a nice planet.

And I agree with the Transplanter, that other EU countries need to get their identities back.

Voting out doesn't mean we are anti European.

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Voting out doesn't mean we are anti European.

 

 

This is key for people to understand on both sides of the channel.

 

My own brother was convinced, like many of the "educated" seem to be, that I was voting on immigration. In fact it was quite the opposite as I'm not anti immigration at all and am in favour of free movement as my work is mainly in Europe (so in effect I was voting for something that stands to do me harm). For me it was all about democratic accountability and not immigration at all.  

 

Laws, courts and politicians from this country should not be able to be overruled by people from other countries that we did not elect and cannot vote out. Democracy rules!

 

PS. Yes, still happy with my vote. If there's a price to pay then so be it.

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All i can say is well done.

Maybe like Irelands referendum that didnt go Europes way they will force a second one threw on you all until they get the result desired..

Unlike the Irish i hope you still have the balls to stand tall,,,,

 

Northern Ireland didnt vote on leaving Europe but instead fed of the scare monger of border controls again....To many people work in either R.O.I. or N.I...

Then there maybe a return of violence they say...truth probably is nothing  will change as neither country can afford to re employ 300 + extra customs and countless security forces and England isnt going to sent another 10,000 troops to patrol it for them and that isnt forgetting rebuilding border posts and custom offices...

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Think a lot depends on which willy wonker we get to run the country, hopefully in a forward motion putting the GREAT back into Britain and back on the map as a leader and not as before a follower of what was said in another country

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which was?????

 

sorry to be a pain but in reality Cameron there Kenny here etc have not much control or say....

Your country like ours and most others are run by civil servants otherwise every election a country would shut down or fall apart.

 

He may have a chance to put his views and if the government ( both sides) agree enough and servants can make it happen then bingo he has kept one small promise..

 

 

kenny

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well i was a very torn voter that voted out, and i still stand by it, been saying for years, the country is not run by anything but the same set of civil servants, regardless of which party is elected the pm is just a scape goat when it goes seriously wrong

 

we need control of our country back, as do the rest of Europe, and become a world of separate countries again, and i hope we are the first of many to follow

 

however, i will say, that if i was still a working man, and ran the company i used to have, then my vote would have had to go the other way, as the knee jerk reaction in the dollar rate alone, i would have had to make redundancies, as it is an industry that works by the dollar, and that just made the company too expensive to compete without doing so, but it also relies on the most of Europe for its business

 

we now need to make the most of the opportunities ahead, as a country we need to unite, if politicians are not doing the job of making us great again, then their heads need to be replaced with someone that can

 

we need a leader with Bollox, (a doris usually fits this bill quite well, merkel and thatcher spring to mind)

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Very Proud of you guys. You probably just saved Europe and possibly the world with whatever Kalergi type plan Merkel and Brussels had in store for you. Hopefully you will inspire a few others and strengthen your national identities. Well done, very well done.

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I like this quote from Lord Jones (he headed up the CBI between 2000 and 2006) but do think it's important to understand that we voted to be independent of unelected European leadership and law making, not independent and separate from European people at ground level. At least that's how I see it anyway. :

 

"What I'm thrilled about actually is subliminally, almost unconsciously, the great British public have put their democratic freedom ahead of money and the establishment elite has had a kicking. Whether the establishment are trade unions or big business or ministers or Brussels or the markets - every one of them tried to frighten the living daylights out of Britain for about eight weeks. And the British public sort of quietly went about their business and went into a secret ballot box and said: 'Do you know what? I like electing my leaders - I don't like actually being told what to do by an unelected, unaccountable people, so I'm going to get out of that lot, and if it costs me a few bob for a couple of years so be it'. And I say well done to them."

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well i was a very torn voter that voted out, and i still stand by it, been saying for years, the country is not run by anything but the same set of civil servants, regardless of which party is elected the pm is just a scape goat when it goes seriously wrong

 

we need control of our country back, as do the rest of Europe, and become a world of separate countries again, and i hope we are the first of many to follow

 

however, i will say, that if i was still a working man, and ran the company i used to have, then my vote would have had to go the other way, as the knee jerk reaction in the dollar rate alone, i would have had to make redundancies, as it is an industry that works by the dollar, and that just made the company too expensive to compete without doing so, but it also relies on the most of Europe for its business

 

we now need to make the most of the opportunities ahead, as a country we need to unite, if politicians are not doing the job of making us great again, then their heads need to be replaced with someone that can

 

we need a leader with Bollox, (a doris usually fits this bill quite well, merkel and thatcher spring to mind)

I run my own business which mainly revolves around importing car parts and cars from both Europe & the US and I still voted out!

 

I knew short term the £ would drop and affect my buying power & profit margin, but I still voted out! Im confident the £ will recover shortly and things will resume as per normal. And I look forward to the UK growing outside of the EU.

 

On the political stage I think we will be getting Boris (rather than a doris) in the short term at least! I think he will do well, as he will connect with the people, under that bumbling exterior lies a very intelligent man. He just needs to make sure he has some strength underneath him to reinforce things. 

 

I dont know about everyone else, but I now feel quite excited about Great Britains future.

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