Could a lot of us end up on a q plate ?

[RWL81P]

much like my mexico!

[colr6]

We could invent a new dangerous industry to be in.....owning a old car.......all the previous owners are DEAD!....lol

[RWL81P]

the ford previous owner is dead club! where do we sign up?

[colr6]

2 minutes ago, RWL81P said:

the ford previous owner is dead club! where do we sign up?

Racking my brains for a suitable address, but can't think of one. But it's going to be in India, we'll everthing else is there !

[RWL81P]

or mr smith trailor 5, big pony caravan park.

[eeb43]

the biva test is 10 times worse than the current truck sva

[eeb43]

open a bank account in the name of t. occupier

[colr6]

Got this off another forum

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/201721

[RWL81P]

3 hours ago, colr6 said:

Got this off another forum

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/201721

signed!

[Rally Pack 2000]

Have they even considered that some original part designs were so bad that modified replacement became the norm? One that comes to mind are Rotoflex Donuts on Lotus Elans. They would wind up like a rubber band and unpredictably propel the car when you weren't expecting it. Most owners out of safety convert them to CV joints. Its the government trying to say that a CV joint is an untried and tested modification?

Bureaucracy gone mad. Is this one of Sadiq Kahn's anti car agendas again? He believes terrorism is a natural part of life in a big city yet cars are not. He is a nutcase.

[eeb43]

1 minute ago, Rally Pack 2000 said:

Have they even considered that some original part designs were so bad that modified replacement became the norm? One that comes to mind are Rotoflex Donuts on Lotus Elans. They would wind up like a rubber band and unpredictably propel the car when you weren't expecting it. Most owners out of safety convert them to CV joints. Its the government trying to say that a CV joint is an untried and tested modification?

Bureaucracy gone mad. Is this one of Sadiq Kahn's anti car agendas again? He believes terrorism is a natural part of life in a big city yet cars are not. He is a nutcase.

makes jeremy corbyn seem tame though

[RWL81P]

14 minutes ago, eeb43 said:

makes jeremy corbyn seem tame though

corbyn wants hanging! terrorist!

[katana]

Jeez guys - this isn't a conspiracy by our 'men in black' - it's euro regulation that's being imposed EEC wide. The UK proposal is actually considerably more lax than the Eurocrats wanted! The wording is 'RADICALLY ALTERED' - not replacement shocks / tyres / batteries / lights etc. It is to stop cars being described as 'historic' with the benefits that brings whilst being massively modified away from as they were built. As long as you don't claim the benefits - no road tax, no MOT's, keep paying the tax, keep getting the car tested - no one is gonna lose anything! Its trying to stop people taking the piss!

[colr6]

Just another government about turn ! Then charge you £5/600 for a test. Totally agree with keeping the MOT for everyone's safety. As for road tax, pro rata to the milage a 'historic' vehicle will do in a year cos lets be honest there ain't may used as a daily most will be parked up 90% of the year it's an expensive commodity. Yes I know the RFL doesn't go towards repairing and maintaining the roads. But go back to a basic thing you pay to use the road. You pay tax on the fuel you use so the more milage you do the more tax you pay through the fuel so why hit you with another tax.

[Rally Pack 2000]

If its an EU thing then why is anyone in the UK even bothering with it? Surely Brexit will allow you to decide these things for yourselves not the Brussels brigade.

[RWL81P]

On 10/6/2017 at 00:35, Rally Pack 2000 said:

If its an EU thing then why is anyone in the UK even bothering with it? Surely Brexit will allow you to decide these things for yourselves not the Brussels brigade.

we wont get a say in anything, the polititions line theyre own pockets.

[khanlad]

I think there may be alot of worrying over nothing? 

[colr6]

It was the DVLA who told me mine was ' historic '  not me telling them !

if they want to move the goal posts it should be of now, not cars that they've already declared as 'historic '

[eeb43]

7 minutes ago, colr6 said:

It was the DVLA who told me mine was ' historic '  not me telling them !

if they want to move the goal posts it should be of now, not cars that they've already declared as 'historic '

so you informed them of all the modifications done and when they were done?

[colr6]

The only two things they ask on the forms with any change is colour and engine cc which all three of mine have been altered.

[Vista]

I think a lot of us should be worried about this, myself included. But like most others, there's nothing I can do about it now except wait and see. 

[deltamal]

I understood that the MOT exemption was just being considered by the government, I reckon they have bigger fish to fry to fry than this one! if it goes ahead it will take a long time to get organized, testers, testing stations paperwork and several thousand white collar staff to organize it! 

[stephens_xpack]

As Col mentioned above, always wondered why the vehicle tax isn't just placed onto the price of fuel, that way you use the road a lot, you pay more - you use the road a little you pay next to fook all, this way also stops the likes of unregistered vehicles, pikey's etc dodging the cost of taxing the vehicle because registered or not they still need fuel.

[Ray]

i think either a lot of you are either totally mis reading the documents, or just not bothering to read them, or burying your heads in the sand

The documents as I read and understand them

consultation period has been and gone, everyone had their chance to speak up, that time has now gone, this has been on the horizon for years, the government just didn't know how to comply, and the EU law has been there since 2012

it will be law from 20th May 2018, it will happen

the full documents on how you will have to comply will be released in November, at the moment its a draft only

the basic jist, if you have a car that's radically modified, you will have to meet the 8 point system to retain your registration no, free tax status and MOT exemption, you will not have the option to carry on as normal and mot and tax your car, unless its stock

the loss of your registration no, is to easily identify those modified vehicles, if you cannot prove modification was carried out before 1988, which for most I agree will be virtually impossible, then you will have to comply with the 8 point rule

we are still in the EU, and will be for the foreseeable future, therefore we will have to comply, it is an EU law, and we are still only meeting it part way, EU say vehicles over 30 years old should be MOT exempt, we are meeting it at 40 years inline with the road tax, as a result of the consultation, and is mainly based on safety to get to that figure, EU law also states that radically modified vehicles are not and must not be exempt, to comply with that, the government has decided to use the DVLAs 8 point system, although this law has nothing to do with the DVLA

 

as an aside, I have heard of a few people now, having trouble getting V5Cs for cars that have been off the road for a long while, and the DVLA asking for the car to be produced at a particular place, to prove its complete and still as built by the manufacturer to get the V5c, I'm guessing that its getting ready to be part of the above law, both in, does the car actually exist, which combats the selling of V5Cs and if it does, has it been modified

 

[RWL81P]

what about, for example. you have a mk2 escort, with roll cage, front and rear bilsteins, vented discs, limited slip diff, world cup cross member, quick rack, x pack arches, 7x13 rs 4 spokes.  would this be enough mods to end up on a q?