Could a lot of us end up on a q plate ?

[Rally Pack 2000]

Just now, colr6 said:

Put a chuffing great battery in the boot  and claim its hybrid then claim for a tax concession....lol

That would make my Twincam a factory hybrid then? Good call.

[RWL81P]

1 minute ago, colr6 said:

Put a chuffing great battery in the boot  and claim its hybrid then claim for a tax concession....lol

technically, if i take the plugs out and just turn it over on the starter motor in gear. its an eco friendly elecric car.

[jas]

Gareth Haynes from dvla is on Retards Club maybe u could ask him for info

 

[colr6]

10 hours ago, jas said:

Gareth Haynes from dvla is on Retards Club maybe u could ask him for info

 

Wouldn't go on there ! I've seen a couple of Jeramy Kyle episodes, going on there gets you into allsorts of TROUBLE !.....lol

[mk1del]

I would be  tempted to try and ring them explaining about car being off road having some work done and it incomplete, but don't tell them its being rebuilt ,noticed section on gov.uk website about rebuilt classic cars may have to be re registered ,inspected, following  the 8point  rule

[Kenbex522]

On 11/3/2017 at 21:38, jas said:

Gareth Haynes from dvla is on Retards Club maybe u could ask him for info

 

Which forum is that ?? lol

[Leo]

This is still live on the gov website.  https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/radically-altered-vehicles

 

so is the article on page seven BS .? Anyone any the wiser?

[RWL81P]

On 11/4/2017 at 16:22, mk1del said:

I would be  tempted to try and ring them explaining about car being off road having some work done and it incomplete, but don't tell them its being rebuilt ,noticed section on gov.uk website about rebuilt classic cars may have to be re registered ,inspected, following  the 8point  rule

i did ring them and explained that the cars in bits, shell in my dads garage, engine and running gear in my garage, interior in loft. was a case of i wont be getting a logbook back until they have photos of it complete.

[mk1del]

Big brother government picking on motorists again, this is going to cause some trouble next year in classic scene, surely change of address shouldn't be a problem if already  registered keeper with original v5

[RWL81P]

thats what i thought, maybe a new keeper yes. pisses me off that theres 100s of logbooks for sale on ebay.

[Rally Pack 2000]

Their terminology is so incredibly misleading. "Radically Altered Vehicles"? Their own definition is vehicles that have been altered from original specification. Any simple modification either to correct a flaw or weakness in design or even a non original replacement part suddenly becomes 'Radical"? This was written by a paper pusher  with no real world knowledge of classic cars and the difficulties in parts procurement. You can change the engine for some ultra modern turbo charged Jap drifter and you only loose a point but dare you strengthen the diff replacing your English with a Ford Atlas and you loose double the points? Be sure to put that standard 4 speed behind it as well even though you will probably blow the casing apart because that too is worth more than the engine. The poor Morris guys replace their worn steering boxes with a safe rack and pinion deduct two points. While I understand the high value in original chassis specs safely really isnt even factored in here, its just petty rule making for the sake of it.

[katana]

I'm not siding with anyone on this as it affects me as well, but original vehicles are all 'type approved' prior to volume road use / manufacture - everyone knows this. Joe Blogs changes this and that and it is no longer 'type approved' The argument from the men in black is why do you need a Atlas rather than the English etc. etc. that was approved? Everyone chooses to change their car specification - no one is forced too, now we are facing the consequences of avoiding / overlooking the rules that have been around for a good number of years.

[colr6]

Yes things were type approved years ago but you make some alterations to the car, be it engine/ steering or transmission and does not meet the 8 point rule. You then have to submit the car for a test of which multiple things outside the alterations will NOT meet current regs so your on a hiding to nothing ! Basically they screwed up on the 40 yr MOT ruling then again on the tax. Then realising there mistake decided to enforce previously relaxed rules heavily, which will problably effect 75% of old cars. The revenue from this enforcement far outweighs the loss of a few quid on road fund licence. So IVA/ test £500 can't assatain year of manufacture problably take the reg off you then charge you £50 first reg fee for a q plate ! Then the reg they've taken off you like in my case 2/3 letters 2/3 numbers goes back on the database for resale on the DVLA open reg market ! Then there's the revised road fund licence £240 per year thereafter assuming you get it through the test ! Just to take one thing 'steering' changing from a box to a rack looses you points. If the rack conversion is done properly and column in the event if a crash your not going to get impaled to seat by a box coming straight at you ! But yout getting penalised for that. Could go on for pages on this, but your car without a load of expense is not going to meet the regs so it's goodbye old cars. ...on the road anyway

[Rich T]

What about converting a LHD to RHD Mk1 Escort using all genuine parts?

 Was hoping to register my car in the new year then convert it next winter.

[eeb43]

9 hours ago, colr6 said:

Yes things were type approved years ago but you make some alterations to the car, be it engine/ steering or transmission and does not meet the 8 point rule. You then have to submit the car for a test of which multiple things outside the alterations will NOT meet current regs so your on a hiding to nothing ! Basically they screwed up on the 40 yr MOT ruling then again on the tax. Then realising there mistake decided to enforce previously relaxed rules heavily, which will problably effect 75% of old cars. The revenue from this enforcement far outweighs the loss of a few quid on road fund licence. So IVA/ test £500 can't assatain year of manufacture problably take the reg off you then charge you £50 first reg fee for a q plate ! Then the reg they've taken off you like in my case 2/3 letters 2/3 numbers goes back on the database for resale on the DVLA open reg market ! Then there's the revised road fund licence £240 per year thereafter assuming you get it through the test ! Just to take one thing 'steering' changing from a box to a rack looses you points. If the rack conversion is done properly and column in the event if a crash your not going to get impaled to seat by a box coming straight at you ! But yout getting penalised for that. Could go on for pages on this, but your car without a load of expense is not going to meet the regs so it's goodbye old cars. ...on the road anyway

£55 first reg fee and no they do not sell the numbers from cars that have had the id removed

[eeb43]

8 hours ago, Rich T said:

What about converting a LHD to RHD Mk1 Escort using all genuine parts?

 Was hoping to register my car in the new year then convert it next winter.

register it first!

[Rich T]

Thats the plan. Hope to get the car ready for its MOT by the end of January.

[colr6]

7 minutes ago, eeb43 said:

£55 first reg fee and no they do not sell the numbers from cars that have had the id removed

Wouldn't be surprised if they don't sell the plates, extra revenue for the cash strapped dvla !

[colr6]

Did I read on some part of the post that Leo put up that if an import has been given an age related plate it can't be taken off ?

[khanlad]

That would probably be revoked when they decided that the air in the tyres isn't from 1963?  So it's been altered, 

[eeb43]

only q plates are not transferrable to or from some cars when registered after import and some after having a plate change will say on the special notes on the v5c  this registration mark cannot be transferred to another vehicle, they can however have a private plate put on them

[colr6]

Didn't think you put a private plate on a q reg ?

[colr6]

47 minutes ago, khanlad said:

That would probably be revoked when they decided that the air in the tyres isn't from 1963?  So it's been altered, 

Still got the old wheels, so if I transfer the air over will that be ok?

[colr6]

Can see this whole thing be a total mash up from start to finish. Plus there will be a lot of people not been able to use their cars due to red tape and the lack of testing facilities.

[eeb43]

30 minutes ago, colr6 said:

Didn't think you put a private plate on a q reg ?

you cant they arent transferrable to or from stuck on a vehicle for life unless you do something naughty like buy a relevant logbook for your needs!!!!!!!