Indicators + quick rack question

[CryptoWesty]

Hey OSF crew, my mk2 has a quick rack which is great by the way! 
BUT my indicators don’t turn off after tuning a corner, is this normal? Or is there something I can do to change this? Thanks all! 

[Monza]

Never used a quick-rack myself but maybe the little plastic bit that cancels the indicator has broken...... can't think what it's called

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[Miniliteman]

Indicator cancelation cam.

[Brenda1978]

Mine does the same when fitted. At least you have some indicators unlike audi and bmw

[Vista]

As others have stated, it'll be the cancel cam is missing or broken. Pic of one below

 

[Rally Pack 2000]

As they age they split very easily. Here many broke with the advent of the roundabout where the powers that be expected you to indicate when you were exiting a roundabout with your left indicator even if you were turning right at the time forcing the cam to go against itself with the net result being many spit cams. I bought a spare recently for exorbitant money with the intent of finding someone who may machine up bronze ones or at least a more malleable modern plastic.

[Vista]

7 hours ago, Rally Pack 2000 said:

As they age they split very easily. Here many broke with the advent of the roundabout where the powers that be expected you to indicate when you were exiting a roundabout with your left indicator even if you were turning right at the time forcing the cam to go against itself with the net result being many spit cams. I bought a spare recently for exorbitant money with the intent of finding someone who may machine up bronze ones or at least a more malleable modern plastic.

Like this one in Australia right now!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MK2-ESCORT-RS2000-MEXICO-GHIA-GENUINE-FORD-NOS-INDICATOR-TURN-OFF-CAM-/222334983648?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0

 

[Monza]

I'm sure someone was looking into re-manufacturing them.....couple of years ago on one of the Retards Club pages.

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[Johnny Boy]

The other thing to considder, if you have an aftermarket wheel, is that the  pin on the cam dosn't always engage with the wheel boss. 

Edited November 28, 2021 by Johnny Boy

[Johnny Boy]

1 minute ago, Monza said:

I'm sure someone was looking into re-manufacturing them.....couple of years ago on one of the Retards Club pages.

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I guess they could be 3D printed

[Rally Pack 2000]

39 minutes ago, Vista said:

Like this one in Australia right now!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MK2-ESCORT-RS2000-MEXICO-GHIA-GENUINE-FORD-NOS-INDICATOR-TURN-OFF-CAM-/222334983648?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0

 

Well Justin does cover the upper end market with most of his prices LOL But his are always specifically RS2000 / Mexico ones so they're faster

[Monza]

I guess they could be 3D printed

Sure that's what they were looking at doing. Don't know if they saw it through tho

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[katana]

4 hours ago, Vista said:

Like this one in Australia right now!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MK2-ESCORT-RS2000-MEXICO-GHIA-GENUINE-FORD-NOS-INDICATOR-TURN-OFF-CAM-/222334983648?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0

Wow ! ! ! I think I sold my spare for about a tenner 3 or 4 years ago 

[CryptoWesty]

Ok maybe I’ll just to continue manually turning them off then as the price of that tiny piece of plastic is pretty steep 😂

[Rally Pack 2000]

7 minutes ago, CryptoWesty said:

Ok maybe I’ll just to continue manually turning them off then as the price of that tiny piece of plastic is pretty steep 😂

The thing is that its a MOT failure here and yours are much stricter than ours. So you have roundabout laws that break the things then fail you for being unroadworthy cause their laws broke your car in the first place! After the second one broke I started noting what police did in roundabouts and not one of them ever did what they were supposed too so I stopped as well and thought why should I bother? Take me to court and I will easily provide footage of them doing the same!

[CryptoWesty]

12 minutes ago, Rally Pack 2000 said:

The thing is that its a MOT failure here and yours are much stricter than ours. So you have roundabout laws that break the things then fail you for being unroadworthy cause their laws broke your car in the first place! After the second one broke I started noting what police did in roundabouts and not one of them ever did what they were supposed too so I stopped as well and thought why should I bother? Take me to court and I will easily provide footage of them doing the same!

My car is mot exempt as per the previous owner has told me? He’s owned it with no problems having no MOT 

[Vista]

3 hours ago, CryptoWesty said:

My car is mot exempt as per the previous owner has told me? He’s owned it with no problems having no MOT 

Is it registered as a Historic Vehicle for VED purposes? If so, yes it's MOT exempt......but that doesn't mean it's exempt from needing faults fixed. But I can't see you failing foul of anything for a non self cancelling indicator

[CryptoWesty]

1 hour ago, Vista said:

Is it registered as a Historic Vehicle for VED purposes? If so, yes it's MOT exempt......but that doesn't mean it's exempt from needing faults fixed. But I can't see you failing foul of anything for a non self cancelling indicator

I don’t know to be honest.. is there anywhere I can check if so? 

[CryptoWesty]

1 hour ago, Vista said:

Is it registered as a Historic Vehicle for VED purposes? If so, yes it's MOT exempt......but that doesn't mean it's exempt from needing faults fixed. But I can't see you failing foul of anything for a non self cancelling indicator

I cannot see anything about being registered for ved? When I went to tax the car they told me it was exempt

looking at rules on mot for uk it just says a car over 40 years old is exempt 

[Vista]

49 minutes ago, CryptoWesty said:

I cannot see anything about being registered for ved? When I went to tax the car they told me it was exempt

looking at rules on mot for uk it just says a car over 40 years old is exempt 

It is exempt MOT and VED if over 40, but that doesn't happen automatically and you need to change the taxation  class on your V5C to historic vehicle. If you were told it was exempt when you went to tax the car then that has already been done.

[Vista]

57 minutes ago, CryptoWesty said:

I don’t know to be honest.. is there anywhere I can check if so? 

Look on your V5C for the tax class. It will say Historic Vehicle

[DT36]

2 hours ago, CryptoWesty said:

I cannot see anything about being registered for ved? When I went to tax the car they told me it was exempt

looking at rules on mot for uk it just says a car over 40 years old is exempt 

Even if it's registered as Historic on your V5 you will still need to apply for a Road Fund License when it's due or you will fall foul of the SORN scenario.

Go on the net and Google "Check if a vehicle is taxed".  Put your reg in there and see what comes up in the Tax and MOT box.

Below is an example of 2 cars/projects I have. Top one is Historic and the other is normal, but not intended to be on the road until next spring. 

This is what you're looking for on the "Check if a vehicle is taxed" Web page. 

Edited November 29, 2021 by dt36

[Ray]

this man makes a repro canceller for a mk1,   

https://www.neilfletcherracing.co.uk/sale_stuff.htm

 

 

 

 

[katana]

12 hours ago, Rally Pack 2000 said:

The thing is that its a MOT failure here and yours are much stricter than ours. So you have roundabout laws that break the things then fail you for being unroadworthy cause their laws broke your car in the first place! After the second one broke I started noting what police did in roundabouts and not one of them ever did what they were supposed too so I stopped as well and thought why should I bother? Take me to court and I will easily provide footage of them doing the same!

Not a fail point here in the UK - not even tested, as long as the bulbs flash at required rate and Hazards (if fitted as not a requirement before '86) work and show a tell tail - you are golden!

As said above the Tax thing needs the Historic status shown on V5 - the PO usually take the form, do the change and submit to DVLA so you just get a new 'Historic' V5 back. The MOT thing needs to be requested every year (I believe - Form V112?) - you have to state - in writing - that vehicle is correct and not substantially altered. For the cost most forgo this and just get re-tested every year - its a safety thing + a second set of eyes looking at stuff you could overlook!

[Vista]

26 minutes ago, katana said:

Not a fail point here in the UK - not even tested, as long as the bulbs flash at required rate and Hazards (if fitted as not a requirement before '86) work and show a tell tail - you are golden!

As said above the Tax thing needs the Historic status shown on V5 - the PO usually take the form, do the change and submit to DVLA so you just get a new 'Historic' V5 back. The MOT thing needs to be requested every year (I believe - Form V112?) - you have to state - in writing - that vehicle is correct and not substantially altered. For the cost most forgo this and just get re-tested every year - its a safety thing + a second set of eyes looking at stuff you could overlook!

I think the V112 is only applicable if you're taxing it in person over the counter in the Post Office. When doing it online, you just need to make a declaration by ticking a box to state that it hasn't been modified when you apply for your year's free VED. Certainly I've not completed a V112 to date and I don't MOT mine every year. To date since they've been exempt, once every two to three years has been the norm for me.